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Sudan says South Sudan controls largest oil field

South Sudan depends on oil sales for 98% of its revenue
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Sudan says its largest oil field is now controlled by South Sudan's army.

A Sudanese military spokesman told the BBC its forces had been defeated outside Heglig, and retreated north.

South Sudan said its forces had advanced to Heglig, but stopped short of saying its forces actually controlled the oil fields.

Clashes between the two sides started two weeks ago, and are among the worst since South Sudan gained independence last July after a long civil war.

South Sudan ended up with most of the oil fields, although it has to export the oil using pipelines through ports in Khartoum's territory.

Both sides blame the other for starting the latest fighting along the undemarcated and disputed frontier in the oil-producing Heglig area.

South Sudan's military spokesman, Philip Aguer, told the BBC the army was responding to air and ground attacks by the Sudanese armed forces.

A Sudanese government statement earlier described the offensive as "severe", saying its Heglig oil fields were deliberately targeted.

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Sudan doesn't admit to many military defeats, so acknowledging a reverse outside Heglig is already extremely significant.

The fact that Sudan's biggest oilfield is now apparently in the hands of the South Sudanese army is astonishing.

It is legitimate to wonder why Sudan's military - which has the advantage of air power and greater weaponry - wasn't able to stop the South Sudanese advance.

Perhaps the Sudan Armed Forces are simply over-stretched: as well as the South Sudanese army, they are fighting rebel groups in Darfur, Southern Kordofan and Blue Nile. Khartoum alleges the rebels are supported by South Sudan.

Sudan will certainly respond, and a programme showing "martyrs" who "sacrificed themselves for their country" is already being shown on Sudanese TV.

However it is possible the South Sudanese will slip away from the oilfields, with their point proven.

These clashes almost certainly represent an attempt to win ground before negotiations resume.

Several sources, both Sudanese and international, suggest Sudan struck first in this instance, before getting a bloody nose.

The most likely outcome is a continuation of low-level hostilities for some time, but the seriousness of these latest events takes the two countries nearer to a return to outright war.

A Sudanese man who works in the oil industry, who did not want to be named, told the BBC that Sudan began the fighting.

Another source suggested the Sudanese were trying to regain a post on the disputed border they had lost two weeks ago.

Fighting 'poisoned atmosphere'
Col Khalid Sawarmi, the spokesman for the Sudan Armed Forces, said: "Now the [soldiers] from South Sudan they are inside Heglig city, and the oilfield, they conquered the Sudanese army outside of Heglig.

"The South Sudanese attacked our Sudanese army in Heglig, as you know Heglig is not part of South Sudan," he continued.

In January, South Sudan, which depends on oil sales for 98% of its revenue, shut down all of its oil fields in a row over the fees Sudan demands to transit the oil.

The BBC's James Copnall in the capital, Khartoum, says oil is at the heart of the disagreements between the two countries, and oil installations are increasingly being targeted militarily.

Nhial Deng, South Sudan's Foreign Minister, said the fighting had "poisoned the atmosphere" between the two sides.

"But we are committed to finding solutions through dialogue," he said. "I strongly believe Khartoum's stance is... to make military gains so they come to the table in a position of strength."

A presidential summit, which was to have been held in South Sudan's capital, Juba, at the beginning of April, has been postponed indefinitely because of the recent fighting.

African Union mediator Thabo Mbeki held talks late last week with South Sudan's President Salva Kiir and his Sudanese counterpart, Omar al-Bashir, amid international fears of a return to full-blown conflict.

Meanwhile, an international weapons monitoring group, Small Arms Survey, says it has gathered enough evidence to show that both South Sudan and Sudan are providing arms to rebels and militia groups in each other's territory.

Both sides have often made and denied such claims of support.
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Mujahid John Garang is smiling somewhere up there :up: :lol: :lol:
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Indeed :clap: :clap: :clap:
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S. Sudan leader insists troops to occupy oil area, threatens attack


Soldiers lie in Bentiu hospital, Unity state, South Sudan on April 11, 2012 recovering from war wounds sustained in fighting just two hours north. Sudan and South Sudan edged the closest to all-out war Wednesday since the South seceded last year, as border clashes raged and both sides called on citizens to take up defences. Amid heavy artillery bombardments and airstrikes in the battle zone, Sudan called the South's seizure of the contested oil-producing Heglig region the worst violation of its territory yet. AFP PHOTO

By MACHEL AMOS NATION Correspondent
Posted Thursday, April 12 2012 at 19:00
IN SUMMARY

UN Secretary General gave me an order to immediately withdraw from Heglig, I said I’m not under your command, MPs told
JUBA, Thursday



South Sudan President Salva Kiir has said his troops will not withdraw from the contested oil-rich border town of Heglig, which they took days ago in fresh clashes with the Sudan Armed Forces.

Mr Kiir’s remark comes amidst UN calls for immediate withdrawal.

He said Khartoum took it as a military weakness when he ordered the troops to withdraw after overrunning Heglig last month.

“It was not. But we always believe that everything can be resolved by peaceful means,” Mr Kiir stressed.

“This time, I said that I will not order the forces to withdraw,” Mr Kiir said, attracting applause from the packed house.

He said the decision is “not because we are interested in war but we want to resolve this problem once and for all.”

UN secretary general Ban Ki Moon in a phone call on Wednesday urged President Kiir to order his forces to withdraw immediately.

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“The UN Secretary General gave me an order that I am ordering you to immediately withdraw from Heglig. I said I am not under your command,” President Kiir said, attracting applause.

Mr Kiir accused the UN and the international community of being unfair in handling the matters between the two former foes.

“Whatever aerial bombardments are being conducted in South Sudan are violation of our sovereignty. When we report them to the international community, they don’t take it as something that concerns them,” Mr Kiir said, arguing that whenever Juba takes a step in self-defence, it becomes a matter of international concern.

“You are not doing justice to all of us,” Mr Kiir said.

“You want to see justice done to Sudan and not South Sudan and this is unfair,” he said.

Mr Kiir said the Sudan troops have not withdrawn from Abyei despite international calls to do so.

He said that if Bashir does not move out his forces out of Abyei, “we are going to reconsider our position and we are going back to Abyei.”
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what a bunch of pussies.

VIVA South Sudan teach those fools a lesson.
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Khalid,

Kii Nubian Jabb! :lol:
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SMH this is disgraceful, they have air superiority but still get karbashed?

Why are you guys supporting South Sudan Dinkas? :|
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Do you guys remember that Ukranian ship that was hijacked by pirates last year and was carrying 175 T-72 tanks.
They were heading to South Sudan via Kenya, Kenya was exposed for arms proliferation and the world did nothing.
The kenyan president swore that they were for the Kenyan army, but guess what i am watching those very tanks on aljazeera right now in south sudan hands.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
airsuperiority is useless if your pilots cannot hit anything other than civilians.
and south sudan now has armour superiority,.

The North Sudan are a pathetic sorry excuse , wallahi if i was Suadani i would die of shame.
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This is not surprising... even before secession about two years ago a militia from the south drove all the way to a major northern town and captured a military facility without breaking a sweat ! basically all oil rich arabic countries have weak shitty army that would surrender to a small clan militia from Somalia.
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its the result of Coup-proofing.

if you design your armed forces so that they cannot mount a coup on you, the consequences is that as a result they become shit.
utterly useless trash..

this is only for regimes that coup-proof their armies and it does not apply to armies that own their countries like Pakistan/Egypt

In pakistan the country can go to the shitter but the army works and works well, becuase they dont have to worry about a coup, they are not part of a country,
the country is part of them.
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Gurey,

You're being too hard on Northern Suden though. They do not have anywhere near the geo strategic allies that Southern Sudan Has. Its not like it was 1 on 1.
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Murax wrote:Gurey,

You're being too hard on Northern Suden though. They do not have anywhere near the geo strategic allies that Southern Sudan Has. Its not like it was 1 on 1.

are other countries sending troops?
no..
They are sending advisors and aid thats all.

Sudan has had an armed force since the 1920's and a millitary academy to train officers since 1918.
and they had more access to funds and more access to weapons, and training plus they have an airforce..

there is no excuse..

its pathetic.
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