Apathy of the Somali youth

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I have seen an alarming trend of somalis of this generation constantly talking shit about their own country and showing no optimism or ambition. They are always saying things like "Somalia will always be a shithole bla bla bla", "Somalis will be always be at war bla bla bla", "I'm never going back bla bla". Grow the fuck up, don't you realise that Somalia's in the predicament it is in not because of a gun-totting idiot in Bakara market but because of the self-hating loser generation qurbaha jooga who want their country to be successful but are not willing to sacrifice anything for it to achieve that. This disease, a mixture of extreme pessimism (Pessimism is xaraam becuase it shows lack of faith in Allah SWT) and self-hate has permeated our society and has corrupted the next generation, the generation that should be sorting out Somalia's woes - since the previous generation have failed miserably.


Look at what a bunch of silly arab kids achieved, they toppled some of the most totalitarian regimes in the world simply by saying enough is enough and were willing to put their lives on the line.

Anigu, I'm inshallah going to finish my degree and go back home to help fix that shit any way I can - and I mean any way I can. Lakiin it's sad that instead of rushing to your country all you guys do is engage in qabiil squabbles or talk about some hollywood bimbo. Somalia didn't die when bullets were flying in the civil war, it didn't die during the warlords reign, the famine, the foreign invasions etc. No Somalia died when a useless generation such as ourselves were born.


End of Rant.

[blackstars25]

You are comparing apples with oranges here. The situation in Somalia is a universe away from that of Arab countries. Those protestors at least had someone to overthrow, they had institutions in place etc. Somalia.....is just different.

I don't think you are the only person that wants to go back, the Somali diaspora has been waiting for 20 years for them to get their shit together. Nobody wants to go to a country where they are likely to be kidnapped orbe blown to smithereens.

[Meseret]

Well said Abdi Ismail

I have asked myself this question million times in the last 10 years:" how come my country is the only failed nation in the World?" is it because we are un-educated? no we more educated people in Somalia then Congo has but still they have a government and a nationhood. Why did nobody defeat the warlords who was keeping somalia hostage from 1991-2007 ? or the regional states? and unity the country by force? I have the answer to that question its as you said Abdi, the somalis inside and outside the country don't want to risk their lives, its that simple. They don't have that strong sense of nationalism that the country is more important than our lifes. Are you ready to die for Somalia? is Somalia more important than your life? Is Somalia more important then your qabil? if you and only 1000 somalis answer yes to that then we are saved. The old somali generations used to have that. Somalis only knows how to talk bla bla bla but no action, what do you think Al-shabab came to exist? they were young men like you who had enough of somalias problems and took action, they risked their own lifes thats why they were able to defeat all their enemies. The problem with shabab was that they became lunatics, if only they had realistic and patriotic leaders and not that bin laden shit. They will had been a good government.

WE only need 1000 of your kind out of 10 million somalis in order to sort out the problems of somalia. That 1000 has to cooprate and have a plan about unitying the nation. We can't have people doing things here and there we need plans and organization and I can promise you then somalia will succed and gain its dignity back with the help of Allah. I think you should read the story about SYL the young men and women who brough freedoom to Somalia in 1960 but we failed them since..... they should be our role models. May Allah their souls amen.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

You are comparing apples with oranges here. The situation in Somalia is a universe away from that of Arab countries. Those protestors at least had someone to overthrow, they had institutions in place etc. Somalia.....is just different.

I don't think you are the only person that wants to go back, the Somali diaspora has been waiting for 20 years for them to get their shit together. Nobody wants to go to a country where they are likely to be kidnapped orbe blown to smithereens.

I brought up the arab youth because they are the most recent and relevant example of a group of people with a common cause, patriotism and enough ambition to do something about the problems of their country. Somalis have none of theose qualities unfortunately - or at least not enough of us - and while arab kids are changing history, a somali is worried about whether to buy an iphone or a samsung - and somali guys are the worst with their obsession with trying to emulate AA hoodrats (a group of people everyone on this planet looks down on with disdain) instead of trying to get a good degree and moving back home to sort shit out.

I'm sorry there's no excuse.

[Tuushi]

U r making it seem like Somalia gave these kids any reason for them to be anything but negative towards it.

For majority,all the hear and everything they associate with Somalia is in the negatives.

[blackstars25]

I brought up the arab youth because they are the most recent and relevant example of a group of people with a common cause, patriotism and enough ambition to do something about the problems of their country. Somalis have none of theose qualities unfortunately - or at least not enough of us - and while arab kids are changing history, a somali is worried about whether to buy an iphone or a samsung - and somali guys are the worst with their obsession with trying to emulate AA hoodrats (a group of people everyone on this planet looks down on with disdain) instead of trying to get a good degree and moving back home to sort shit out.

I'm sorry there's no excuse.

I agree with what you are saying. However I don't think its fair to blame those lost Somali kids in the West for their lack of patriotism and contribution to Somalia. Ultimately the only people that could bring peace and stability to Somalia are those who LIVE there.

Put it this way, if the Somali diaspora did not exist would there have been peace in Somalia by now? If your answer to this question is no then the Somali diaspora is not the problem.

[mudugawi]

Wadani is someone who loves their country and who believes in the unity of their country. The reason why being wadani is alien to some people is that over the 20 years civil war kids have grown up in a constant state of war and anarchy. Peoples hearts have been hardened and have forgotten to love. The importance of national interest has been overshadowed by Qabyaalad. Remember the government and corrupted shabab/warlord are here today, they will leave tommorow. But our land will stay. People need to differentiate between being pessimistic and losing one's hope and loyalty he/she has for their country. Mark my words, Somalia wey guuleysan inshalah

[SahanGalbeed]

I brought up the arab youth because they are the most recent and relevant example of a group of people with a common cause, patriotism and enough ambition to do something about the problems of their country

When did we topple the dictatorial regime of Siyad Barre ? in 1991 , way before anyboody else in the Arab League
The military was against its own people like prolly nowhere else except Syria the way it is going now.
Who helped us ? not Nato , certainly not the US and even Ethiopia kicked us out .

I gave 3 examples of different scenarios in the Arab spring . We the Isaaq did it before them , faster than them , with a clear cut agenda and with the help of no one else . What the @#!*% are you talking about man ?

I am afraid you're no different then the people you're describing to me , my young cousin

Tribalism was IMPOSED on us . We took that beast by the horns and build ourselves a little something . Be proud of that .
Doesn't mean you have to dislike everybody else , everybody is not the same

[Shirib]

I have seen an alarming trend of somalis of this generation constantly talking shit about their own country and showing no optimism or ambition. They are always saying things like "Somalia will always be a shithole bla bla bla", "Somalis will be always be at war bla bla bla", "I'm never going back bla bla". Grow the fuck up, don't you realise that Somalia's in the predicament it is in not because of a gun-totting idiot in Bakara market but because of the self-hating loser generation qurbaha jooga who want their country to be successful but are not willing to sacrifice anything for it to achieve that. This disease, a mixture of extreme pessimism (Pessimism is xaraam becuase it shows lack of faith in Allah SWT) and self-hate has permeated our society and has corrupted the next generation, the generation that should be sorting out Somalia's woes - since the previous generation have failed miserably.


Look at what a bunch of silly arab kids achieved, they toppled some of the most totalitarian regimes in the world simply by saying enough is enough and were willing to put their lives on the line.

Anigu, I'm inshallah going to finish my degree and go back home to help fix that shit any way I can - and I mean any way I can. Lakiin it's sad that instead of rushing to your country all you guys do is engage in qabiil squabbles or talk about some hollywood bimbo. Somalia didn't die when bullets were flying in the civil war, it didn't die during the warlords reign, the famine, the foreign invasions etc. No Somalia died when a useless generation such as ourselves were born.


End of Rant.

I disagree with the notion, but I see the greater point you're trying to make

[FAH1223]

Somali youth abroad have no say in what goes on in Somalia. The youth inside of Somalia are the ones everyone should be more concerned about.

[163]

One of yall is gonna have to go back and rally the youth down there. You can bring new ideas from being abroad seeing functioning societies living with ppl of multiple nationalities which the ppl down there havent experienced. Ultimately it is the youth down there who are gonna have to be rallied and it alll starts in the countryside. It always starts in the countryside when it comes to Africa!

[eliteSomali]

This is a speech that's been repeated hundred times. I remember receiving similar lecture when I was growing up and now I am the one giving it. 21 years and no change. What kinda shyt is that? Somalia's problems are not one. It will take time to fix them all but what should be a priority is security. Achieve that and everything else will be worked on. You can't really expect youths from abroad to go back home and land in kismaayo to get their head chopped off by alshabb or arbitrarily bombed somewhere in bakara market?

[Alphanumeric]

You're gunna blame me for the shit that's happening back home? gtfoh.

PS. I owe far more to Canada than I do there.

[163]

This is a speech that's been repeated hundred times. I remember receiving similar lecture when I was growing up and now I am the one giving it. 21 years and no change. What kinda shyt is that? Somalia's problems are not one. It will take time to fix them all but what should be a priority is security. Achieve that and everything else will be worked on. You can't really expect youths from abroad to go back home and land in kismaayo to get their head chopped off by alshabb or arbitrarily bombed somewhere in bakara market?

You start in the countryside among the farmers and nomads and build your base there before gradually expanding once you create a solid base! The problem is everybody wants a quick solution to a complex issue. The diaspora youth could greatly contribute simply by being a link between the country and diaspora. They can organize fund raising, awareness, medecine, clothes, equipements, education etc. If a group of educated ppl moved to the countryside they could work alongside the ppl to create a mutual trust and similtaneously teach the ppl there about politics, history, culture etc. then they can recruite the youths there for security and gradually expand

[eliteSomali]

This is a speech that's been repeated hundred times. I remember receiving similar lecture when I was growing up and now I am the one giving it. 21 years and no change. What kinda shyt is that? Somalia's problems are not one. It will take time to fix them all but what should be a priority is security. Achieve that and everything else will be worked on. You can't really expect youths from abroad to go back home and land in kismaayo to get their head chopped off by alshabb or arbitrarily bombed somewhere in bakara market?

You start in the countryside among the farmers and nomads and build your base there before gradually expanding once you create a solid base! The problem is everybody wants a quick solution to a complex issue. The diaspora youth could greatly contribute simply by being a link between the country and diaspora. They can organize fund raising, awareness, medecine, clothes, equipements, education etc. If a group of educated ppl moved to the countryside they could work alongside the ppl to create a mutual trust and similtaneously teach the ppl there about politics, history, culture etc. then they can recruite the youths there for security and gradually expand

Indeed and I do agree with you that the diaspora youth can immensely contribute. Forget culture. Forget caafimad and even education. Get a national security. Once security is achieved, everything else can be fixed. but without security, nothing can be fixed. How many times were graduating students bombed? PM almost got blown the other day. the baidoa explosion followed and today an explosion in median hospital. It's a f-king joke sxb. we need nabad more than anything else.