List of Tribal Leaders Ee Ansixinta Dastuurka Somalia

[greenday]

Gemini, my i dont remember my clan making such statements. I do remmeber two forumers saying such thing.

Green, everything is flying over your head walee. Did i say daarood or hawiye president? Really?

Let's end it here hadaba.

Again, 'things are coming back' doesn't mean nothing to me when you have had the world tell you what to do how to live and your president gets escorted to the toilet. Please, it's not healthy when you look down on others constantly. That's all I was trying to convey to you but you keep turning the other cheek.

This all you guys ever do walahi, you look down on Somalia and you want us to think of you guys the perfect nation?

[CaliBurco]

This is not about you denying what state the Somalia entity is in, this is about you looking down on others.
You are entitled to say much when your elders have worked hard to create a situation out of nothing, when realising what they have done for you you can only look to the future and wish we are independent to truely fulfill our potential.

When you see us to be no different I truly wish that we did get our hand involved in your politics in the South, atleast that way it would have been satisfying to create this current mess. Sometimes when you think you're doing the right thing by staying away they still don't appreciate it out of spite.

And as far as your last post, we don't look down on you. If we did we would never wish for you guys to have a healthy government that improves the lives of the people and that the situation might change from the way it stands currently.
If we looked down on you we would be right up there working for our own interest. We have just realised that we won't be able to live together as things stand representing the same country.

The quicker people realise this the better off we'll be.

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greenday

dont be misled by these extreme secessionists in the issaq diasporic. they would have you believe every northerner wants to secede.
its a lie dont believe it. there have been many northerners, politicians and traditional elders alike, who totally reject and denounce secessionism.
just a few weeks ago the most senior suldaan in somaliland renounced secessionism, and reafirmed the unity of somalia.
the interview was posted on somalinet, prehaps someone can kindly re-post it.

the people of somaliland have nothing, no jobs, no education, no healthcare.
the area is kept on life support by aid agencies and NGOs.
every year thousands of northerners are trafficked through deserts and across the sea, many ending up in slave-like conditions in Arab countries.
every somali, whether north or south, needs a functioning govt in xamar, this is indisputable.
the extremist issaq you find on somalinet do not represent all issaqs .

[greenday]

This is not about you denying what state the Somalia entity is in, this is about you looking down on others.
You are entitled to say much when your elders have worked hard to create a situation out of nothing, when realising what they have done for you you can only look to the future and wish we are independent to truely fulfill our potential.

When you see us to be no different I truly wish that we did get our hand involved in your politics in the South, atleast that way it would have been satisfying to create this current mess. Sometimes when you think you're doing the right thing by staying away they still don't appreciate it out of spite.

And as far as your last post, we don't look down on you. If we did we would never wish for you guys to have a healthy government that improves the lives of the people and that the situation might change from the way it stands currently.
If we looked down on you we would be right up there working for our own interest. We have just realised that we won't be able to live together as things stand representing the same country.

The quicker people realise this the better off we'll be.

Looking down on others is different than wishing them harm, you look down on us mate just read all the stuff that you guys have said, you want to leave because you think you are better, you think we will hinder your success, you think the places with peace in Somalia are pirate heaven were aqilis get killed,you think that when Amison leaves Xamar will be back at square one, you think we have not developed politically hence why Pl cant manage to have one man one vote, its simple you think you guys are better than Somalia and even the Somalis of Somalia when truth is you are not. I dont mind criticism but to think you are superior, which is by the way what landers think! is a joke.

[CaliBurco]

Green, we want to leave because we do not agree politically. And yes, you are hindering our success. When the whole world tells you that you need to speak to the people of Mogadishu and they have governments that are run on interim periods and do not represent the people whatsoever with wars for 21 years, you are hindering our process.

If you would have read on the history of your own people, in particular what happened when Ali Mahdi declared to be predident in 1991 you'll see why we are different.

These are facts woman, you are arguing for the sake of arguing.

[greenday]

Green, we want to leave because we do not agree politically. And yes, you are hindering our success. When the whole world tells you that you need to speak to the people of Mogadishu and they have governments that are run on interim periods and do not represent the people whatsoever with wars for 21 years, you are hindering our process.

If you would have read on the history of your own people, in particular what happened when Ali Mahdi declared to be predident in 1991 you'll see why we are different.

These are facts woman, you are arguing for the sake of arguing.

We are politically different kulahaa, you mean like two political parties are different? yet they manage to run a country right after each other

I do not see any valid point from SL except what Barre did to you guys when asking for independence. And how are we hindering you guys? for 21 years saas xita idinma soo firin

We have let you guys look down/ mock us for too long, and that is why i wont take "you guys are animals" "we cant share with animals" and "Somalia is a shit hole" from people with 21 years of peace who are not doing much better than a wore torn country

[Khalid Ali]

Somalia dee who else we have been fighting you're Country in an ugly border war the past 20 years maybe adigu waad huruday laakin dagaal ba socday

inantani may huruday ma marku sh sharif madaxweyne noqday baad so toostay.

We know war and peace if Somalia wants war we will give them war if they want peace we will give them peace

You have been fighting reer buuhoodle you mean

No mamuulka Puntland eh Somalia for years Buhoodle wa sheeko hada eeh did you forget dagaaladi sool adhicadeeye abeesalay against puntland.

[greenday]

Khalid, is fighting PL=fighting Somalia

[Khalid Ali]

We don't share the same history
we don't share the same ethics
We are not from the same tribes
We don't share the same political culture
We don't share the same heritage
We don't share the same culture

[Khalid Ali]

Khalid, is fighting PL=fighting Somalia

Isn't puntand Somalia

[CaliBurco]

Green, we want to leave because we do not agree politically. And yes, you are hindering our success. When the whole world tells you that you need to speak to the people of Mogadishu and they have governments that are run on interim periods and do not represent the people whatsoever with wars for 21 years, you are hindering our process.

If you would have read on the history of your own people, in particular what happened when Ali Mahdi declared to be predident in 1991 you'll see why we are different.

These are facts woman, you are arguing for the sake of arguing.

We are politically different kulahaa, you mean like two political parties are different? yet they manage to run a country right after each other

I do not see any valid point from SL except what Barre did to you guys when asking for independence. And how are we hindering you guys? for 21 years saas xita idinma soo firin

We have let you guys look down/ mock us for too long, and that is why i wont take "you guys are animals" "we cant share with animals" and "Somalia is a shit hole" from people with 21 years of peace who are not doing much better than a wore torn country

This is pointless.

Since what we did is so easy, lets see you do it. We shall discuss this further then. We are light years ahead of you politically, when you can compromise on something come and talk to me. Before you can do any of that re-instate some dignity in your tribal elders. That's where it starts, not waiting for the international community to sort out your mess.

You will only dissapoint yourself.

[greenday]

Khalid, is fighting PL=fighting Somalia

Isn't puntand Somalia

Its part of Somalia, fighting them is like fighting the left hand of Somalia

[CaliBurco]

Khalid, is fighting PL=fighting Somalia

Isn't puntand Somalia

Its part of Somalia, fighting them is like fighting the left hand of Somalia

Are you saying that they are weak and fight like sissys?

WTf did i just read

[greenday]

We don't share the same history
we don't share the same ethics
We are not from the same tribes
We don't share the same political culture
We don't share the same heritage
We don't share the same culture

Yeaa right

[greenday]

Cali, weak no? but they are fraction of the Somalis in Somalia.