How shall we attain islamic unity?
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AhlulbaytSoldier
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
Arab,
Do you consider suufis to be muslims, sunni muslims or polytheists?
Do you consider suufis to be muslims, sunni muslims or polytheists?
Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
I consider them misguided Muslims.HutuKing01 wrote:Arab,
Do you consider suufis to be muslims, sunni muslims or polytheists?
Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
What are you yourself?Arabman wrote:I consider them misguided Muslims.HutuKing01 wrote:Arab,
Do you consider suufis to be muslims, sunni muslims or polytheists?
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
Your wekipedia link says nothing about firq(sects).
Arabman You lying yourself if you cliame that wahaabiya(salafis) are not different FIRQ(sect) than Suufiya(ahlusunnah waljamaca)
Arabman You lying yourself if you cliame that wahaabiya(salafis) are not different FIRQ(sect) than Suufiya(ahlusunnah waljamaca)
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
wolverine wrote:What are you yourself?Arabman wrote:I consider them misguided Muslims.HutuKing01 wrote:Arab,
Do you consider suufis to be muslims, sunni muslims or polytheists?
Good question!
Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
Are you saying Wikipedia is lying?DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Your wekipedia link says nothing about firq(sects).
Arabman You lying yourself if you cliame that wahaabiya(salafis) are not different FIRQ(sect) than Suufiya(ahlusunnah waljamaca)
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
Your link from wekipedia has nothing to do whit firqs sects whit in sunni. even take so called mdaahib schools those are too different and not united.
Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
Dotoore, check this Wikipedia map:

Notice the Khawarij are extinct, although you claim otherwise.
Notice the Khawarij are extinct, although you claim otherwise.
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... rijite.htm
"The Kharijites Islamic sect survived into the twentieth century in the more moderate form of Ibadi Islam. Ibadites refer themselves back to the Kharijites but reject their aggressive methods. There is a Kharidjite majority in Oman and, there are significant Kharidjite minorities in Algeria (in the Mzab, more than 100,000). Some 40,000 Berber-speaking Ibadi people living on Jerba [Djerba] Island in Tunisia still kept to austere Kharidjite beliefs in the mid-1980s.
Ibadi leadership is vested in an imam, who is regarded as the sole legitimate leader and combines religious and political authority. The imam is elected by a council of prominent laymen or shaykhs. Adherence to Ibadism accounts in part for Oman's historical isolation. Considered a heretical form of Islam by the majority Sunni Muslims, Ibadis were not inclined to integrate with their neighbors.
The term Kharijites became a designation for Muslims who refused to compromise with those who differed from them. The uncompromising fanaticism of the original Kharijites was indicative of the fervor with which the tribal Arabs had accepted the missionary ideology of Islam. It was this fervor that made it possible for Arab armies to conquer so much territory in the seventh century. This same spirit helped the Al Saud succeed at the end of the eighteenth century and again at the beginning of the twentieth. Some observers compare today's radical Salafis with the ancient Khawarij terrorist sect, since they pioneered the political killing of Muslims considered heretic."
"The Kharijites Islamic sect survived into the twentieth century in the more moderate form of Ibadi Islam. Ibadites refer themselves back to the Kharijites but reject their aggressive methods. There is a Kharidjite majority in Oman and, there are significant Kharidjite minorities in Algeria (in the Mzab, more than 100,000). Some 40,000 Berber-speaking Ibadi people living on Jerba [Djerba] Island in Tunisia still kept to austere Kharidjite beliefs in the mid-1980s.
Ibadi leadership is vested in an imam, who is regarded as the sole legitimate leader and combines religious and political authority. The imam is elected by a council of prominent laymen or shaykhs. Adherence to Ibadism accounts in part for Oman's historical isolation. Considered a heretical form of Islam by the majority Sunni Muslims, Ibadis were not inclined to integrate with their neighbors.
The term Kharijites became a designation for Muslims who refused to compromise with those who differed from them. The uncompromising fanaticism of the original Kharijites was indicative of the fervor with which the tribal Arabs had accepted the missionary ideology of Islam. It was this fervor that made it possible for Arab armies to conquer so much territory in the seventh century. This same spirit helped the Al Saud succeed at the end of the eighteenth century and again at the beginning of the twentieth. Some observers compare today's radical Salafis with the ancient Khawarij terrorist sect, since they pioneered the political killing of Muslims considered heretic."
Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
globalsecurity.org is a private site; not Wikipedia.
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
Find muslims that put ISLAM first- and not personal gains or grievances. 
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
To attain pure Islamic unity one must understand that there can never be unity among Muslims without fulfilling the first of three duties, the first being to surrender to Allah with absolute faith. Not many of us can say we do glorify Allah on a daily bases simply because the majority of us Muslims nowadays can't be bothered since were preoccupied pursing worldly dreams and shit. The second duty comes only after we can fulfill the first with perfect certitude because only those who do can begin to worship Allah alone, without thinking for a moment that Allah might have any equal or any partner. Only those with such faith glorify the name of Allah, not on a daily bases but in every breath they inhale and exhale daily.Perfect_Order wrote:My first question to ask forumers is, what is Islamic unity? Then, who are the muslims? And, how do we attain Islamic unity?
Serious question.
Of the 73 groups of mankind who are the descendant of Adam, only those of us who Allah is our grace, our soul, our food, and our wealth; whose focus is on Allah alone... only that one group with perfect faith is in a state of pure Islam.
Serious answer
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
Wikipedia is a crowd driven open source and can contain inaccurate information. I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia as the ultimate source for reliable scholarly work.Arabman wrote:.
Are you saying Wikipedia is lying?
No comment on the chart.
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Re: How shall we attain islamic unity?
The prime minister and his side are decent, and even educated people, but my God, the president and his people are the lowliest scum of the earth. Fuck, how did our Western-educated cabinet get stuck with this monkey of a president who has never even seen a properly paved street before his international trips as head of state. When I see that pink-lipped nigger faggot I just wanna shoot him in the f-king head, knowing that this monstrous piece of shit is representing ME - that the world thinks HE is Somali. f-king hell it makes my blood boil. I can't wait until August so this faggot's trips end. I can't look at him without the urge to rip out his spine and shove it back up his ass.
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