so here's a little something, war in Somalia started in 1991, Al Shabaab came into existence 2007. That's 16 years where we managed to kill ourselves, starve ourselves, and deny ourselves of basic human rights before Al Shabaab came into existence. And unless we get our act together, we'll go back to that once Al Shabaab leaves. They're a nice scapegoat but Al Shabaab are just one small part of the problem, they don't come close to being the problem.BlackVelvet wrote:Well I never really liked Gar Guduud but I didn't think he called for suicide bombings.
I thought that too. I guess it was just a neat way to packup a problem. Damn I really did get duped.Shirib wrote:Talking to some people you would think that Somalia's problems started when Al Shabaab entered the arena. Al Shabaab hasn't done anything new, they might have magnified it, but they've pretty much been copy cats
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Shirib wrote:so here's a little something, war in Somalia started in 1991, Al Shabaab came into existence 2007. That's 16 years where we managed to kill ourselves, starve ourselves, and deny ourselves of basic human rights before Al Shabaab came into existence. And unless we get our act together, we'll go back to that once Al Shabaab leaves. They're a nice scapegoat but Al Shabaab are just one small part of the problem, they don't come close to being the problem.
That is true at the same time Al Shabab has held us hostage for the past 5 years. I can't say I am sad to see them leave.
The problem with Somalia is that everyone wants the whole pie. And it's a tiny pie. One thing that keeps me hopeful though is that nothing lasts forever lol and I used to think that saying was a depressing.
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BlackVelvet wrote:Shirib wrote:so here's a little something, war in Somalia started in 1991, Al Shabaab came into existence 2007. That's 16 years where we managed to kill ourselves, starve ourselves, and deny ourselves of basic human rights before Al Shabaab came into existence. And unless we get our act together, we'll go back to that once Al Shabaab leaves. They're a nice scapegoat but Al Shabaab are just one small part of the problem, they don't come close to being the problem.
That is true at the same time Al Shabab has held us hostage for the past 5 years. I can't say I am sad to see them leave.
The problem with Somalia is that everyone wants the whole pie. And it's a tiny pie. One thing that keeps me hopeful though is that nothing lasts forever lol and I used to think that saying was a depressing.
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Do you mean read about it or some-one told you?Saraxnow wrote:Lol, I remembered there were few suicide attacks during the '77 war against Ethiopia. Weird.
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Some were known relatives,AUN.Niya wrote:Do you mean read about it or some-one told you?Saraxnow wrote:Lol, I remembered there were few suicide attacks during the '77 war against Ethiopia. Weird.
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Lets say a lone man rushed into a NATO military base and attempts to kill as many soldiers as possible, with the eventuality of him being shot and killed. Of course this is all hypothetical but would 'said' person be a martyr?
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Do you still support Al-Shabaab?grandpakhalif wrote:Lets say a lone man rushed into a NATO military base and attempts to kill as many soldiers as possible, with the eventuality of him being shot and killed. Of course this is all hypothetical but would 'said' person be a martyr?
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