Ethiopia's hatred for the the blessed nation of Somaliland

[insightful]

This isn't a secret I've said it before; it's convenient for them to have an unrecognised Somaliland so they don't have to deal with a stronger Somali partner,at least for now.

As for ''insightful'' there is no such thing as ''love'' in this game; it's interests/diplomacy.Learn the difference.

Oh no, you changed my view on the political landscape of Somalia, I feel illuminated.

[Saraxnow]

And you're still not insightful. Bless.

[gurey25]

Ethiopia has nothing to gain by our recognition, but allot to lose.
Have you not noticed that all the progress we have had in our quest for recognition has come without the ethiopians?
Our Igad associate member status was pushed by djibouti and Kenya.
In 2005 the proposal for associate member status in the AU was championed by ghana, supported by Senegal and South Africa as well as most of black africa, Ethiopia was silent.
The arabs shot it down when Egypt, Sudan and Algeria threatened to boycot AU sessions.

We want recognition to be free of the perfidious influence of the Ethiopians

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Ethiopia has nothing to gain by our recognition, but allot to lose.
Have you not noticed that all the progress we have had in our quest for recognition has come without the ethiopians?
Our Igad associate member status was pushed by djibouti and Kenya.
In 2005 the proposal for associate member status in the AU was championed by ghana, supported by Senegal and South Africa as well as most of black africa, Ethiopia was silent.
The arabs shot it down when Egypt, Sudan and Algeria threatened to boycot AU sessions.

We want recognition to be free of the perfidious influence of the Ethiopians

Why? What does Egypt gain from a Somaliland in political and economic limbo?

[gurey25]

they think a strong united somalia will suddnely come to exist , so that it could
help them pressure Ethiopia.
at least this was the thinkng during mubaraks days.
And egypt was the force behind sudans and saudias policy on somalia, but this has all changed,
the new government has changed their policy on somaliland, they will not recognize us but they are now more or less
neautral.
This means that they will not stage another boycott in the AU over somaliland,
and we can get observer status in the AU soon inshallah.

[Eaglehawk]

they think a strong united somalia will suddnely come to exist , so that it could
help them pressure Ethiopia.
at least this was the thinkng during mubaraks days.
And egypt was the force behind sudans and saudias policy on somalia, but this has all changed,
the new government has changed their policy on somaliland, they will not recognize us but they are now more or less
neautral.
This means that they will not stage another boycott in the AU over somaliland,
and we can get observer status in the AU soon inshallah.

[Eaglehawk]

ethiopia has never been a threat to koonfur, and finally the hawiye are moving away from arab politics
the guy that wrote that article is idoor.
ethiopia aims has never been to control Somalia it has always been getting acces to the sea and by that logic i can see why

koonfur has never been a place of projecting ethiopian power.
ethiopia sees koonfur has the legal seat of the somali state where the somali state can be resurrected so it always wanted a friedly koonfur or at least a non hostile koonfur that sticks to its borders

no somalilander can tell me why somali regional state flag, harari flag and somaliland flag are similar

cabdulahi yusuf understood this, geedi understood this and now sharif understands this.

if i was somalilanders i would shut my mouth and be friendly to ethiopia and pray to god ethiopia takes assab from eritrea

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

they think a strong united somalia will suddnely come to exist , so that it could
help them pressure Ethiopia.
at least this was the thinkng during mubaraks days.
And egypt was the force behind sudans and saudias policy on somalia, but this has all changed,
the new government has changed their policy on somaliland, they will not recognize us but they are now more or less
neautral.
This means that they will not stage another boycott in the AU over somaliland,
and we can get observer status in the AU soon inshallah.

Inshallah

For a nation that has a reputation for intellectualism among the arabs, they are surprisingly poorly informed. They have the same fantasies as the warlords of the south. They think undermining SL and sprinkling magical beans will suddenly bring forth a powerful somali state.

[The_Emperior5]

ethiopia has never been a threat to koonfur, and finally the hawiye are moving away from arab politics
the guy that wrote that article is idoor.
ethiopia aims has never been to control Somalia it has always been getting acces to the sea and by that logic i can see why

koonfur has never been a place of projecting ethiopian power.
ethiopia sees koonfur has the legal seat of the somali state where the somali state can be resurrected so it always wanted a friedly koonfur or at least a non hostile koonfur that sticks to its borders

no somalilander can tell me why somali regional state flag, harari flag and somaliland flag are similar

cabdulahi yusuf understood this, geedi understood this and now sharif understands this.

if i was somalilanders i would shut my mouth and be friendly to ethiopia and pray to god ethiopia takes assab from eritrea

Yes thats why they are in Somalia in thousands of troops
Qofkanu wa qof derderen

[Eaglehawk]

ethiopia has never been a threat to koonfur, and finally the hawiye are moving away from arab politics
the guy that wrote that article is idoor.
ethiopia aims has never been to control Somalia it has always been getting acces to the sea and by that logic i can see why

koonfur has never been a place of projecting ethiopian power.
ethiopia sees koonfur has the legal seat of the somali state where the somali state can be resurrected so it always wanted a friedly koonfur or at least a non hostile koonfur that sticks to its borders

no somalilander can tell me why somali regional state flag, harari flag and somaliland flag are similar

cabdulahi yusuf understood this, geedi understood this and now sharif understands this.

if i was somalilanders i would shut my mouth and be friendly to ethiopia and pray to god ethiopia takes assab from eritrea

Yes thats why they are in Somalia in thousands of troops
Qofkanu wa qof derderen

ethiopia is taking a supportive role in a international mandated effort
ethiopia is not the enemy of south somalia

i am a great believer we have common interest at balancing the now emerging EAC
the relations that ethiopia has with you is not the same as ours.

south somalia was hostile to ethiopia for no logical reason, remember ina aidid in siding with eritreans against ethiopia at the turn of the century which saw habar gedir expelled from bay and bakool.
or barre hiiraale and JVA taking a anti ethiopian stand and being pro cabdiqasim

the tplf wants to keep the current equilibrium because that has kept them in power for a long time and they are not sure about the future but the world and somali leadership has convinced them that south somalia will not pose a treat to ethiopia, thats why you see sharif and melez becomming friendly and cali khalif having change of hearth with ethiopia.
melez never had grand design for south somalia his effort was always crisis managment but with somaliland you see a clear continuous ethiopian vision from axum emperors to melez

while all of this is happening your relationship with ethiopia is becoming what it has been traditional during axum and abysiniya which is, that of master and vassal.
now the master isopenly showing his hegemony

pa: how are the ethiopians doing who were forced upon you to include into your isaaq tribal structure, what, did you think we don`t know

who knows maybe you are not aware of but go to gabiley and see the new farmers and who they claim

[SahanGalbeed]

how are the ethiopians doing who were forced upon you to include into your isaaq tribal structure, what, did you think we don`t know

who knows maybe you are not aware of but go to gabiley and see the new farmers and who they claim

That's what strong clan do . They incorporate their neighbours . From Lybia to the Sahara to Somalia .
I have seen you outcasted marehan make the same "racist" comments here day in day out .
Let's settle this once and for all . How do you recognise an Ethiopian from a Somali? By the way they look .
I am from Gabiley . Bring your picture up , I will put mine up and we will let the rest of the Somalis decide which one between you and me is the real Somali.
If not , just go back to your Gedo region with the rest of your outcasted clansmen and leave us the fuc,k alone , you're too fuc,kin dumb and bitter to be anything but an outcasted daarood .

[Somalistan]

So If I understood you correctly, Ethiopia considers Somaliland as part of Somalia, yet there is a possability that Ethiopia might forcefully annex or occupy "part ofSomalia" (read Berbera) to gaina access to the sea? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? If Ethiopia is to be friendly towards Somalia, surely they wouldn't do that, would they?

Or are you saying the "South" is now considered a different country, henceforth, the Southies might not give a toss if Somaliland is taken over by the Ethios.

[Eaglehawk]

So If I understood you correctly, Ethiopia considers Somaliland as part of Somalia, yet there is a possability that Ethiopia might forcefully annex or occupy "part ofSomalia" (read Berbera) to gaina access to the sea? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? If Ethiopia is to be friendly towards Somalia, surely they wouldn't do that, would they?

Or are you saying the "South" is now considered a different country, henceforth, the Southies might not give a toss if Somaliland is taken over by the Ethios.

Ethiopia considers somaliland not part of somalia and it considers somaliland not a independent sovoreign state
somaliland legal status gives ethiopia room to maneuver
i consider somaliland like Strasbourg


its conventional wisdom among somali leadership that you need to talk to ethiopia if you want to talk to somaliland
ethiopian influence is not something you have control over it determent by geography

the reason ethiopia want you over hobyo or kismaayo is because you lot are near to the ethiopian highland.
ethiopia never wanted the ogaden but it wanted the hawd and somaliland
look at the distance between hargeisa and jigjiga..ding dong

ethiopia is like russia it has a plan and when events present it self, it takes advantage, russia always wanted abkasia and south osetia for strategic reason.
Russia wanted to counter european pipeline coming from Caspian sea through georgia to turkey and by passing russian territory
and when 2006 georgian war game bon appetit
watch how hostile ethiopia becomes if somali leaders claim somaliland but ethiopians never mentions somaliland as a sovereign independent state and their "embasador" is always a general

idoor have low population they are prime candidate for ethiopian project
And us they just explained to us we are not after you
it was hawiye that was jumping around but am happy now they learned to follow their interest

somalistan if you know me you would know this is not a trick of mine to keep you lot in somalia to the contrary i want you lot out of somalia and under ethiopia
you idoors have not learned how ethiopians operate
if you are habar awal when you strart seing Ethiopian blue taxi you should know I was right

[Adali]

Ina adeer you are on to something.


but please inaga dhex saar umadaan, they are the brainless hill billies of Somalia, let us leave them alone in their delusional state of mind, I do not enjoy to debate politics with an Isaaq, honestly it is not befitting at all.