Some good things I JUST have to say about MSB

[Thuganomics]

Siad Barre, was the only head of state to attend Mozambique's independence celebrations.

MSB also sent martial reinforcements to assist the government of Samora Machel against Rhodesian and Portuguese forces. Rhodesian guerrillas in Maputo at the time "bragged to Portuguese correspondents that Somali tanks will be used in future operations against Ian Smith’s forces.

- In their struggle against the Rhodesians, Zambia appealed to other African countries for military support. On the 27th of June 1977, President Kenneth David Kaunda speaking to a crowd of Zambians in Lusaka announced that Somalia's armed forces were prepared to aid his country against the Rhodesians. Somali Air Force pilots stood on standby to fly Zambian Migs in case of a war.

MSB lent support to various anti-colonial movements, including the rebellion in South Africa against that country's then ruling apartheid government.

- As chairman of the Organisation of African Unity (OAU) in 1974, a rotating seat, MSB invited the ANC as an equal member and gave them a platform to have their voices heard.

MSB also trained South African guerillas and gave them access to military hardware and naval assets

.(Sadly he also sent SA mercenary pilots to blow up HRG)

[Conqueror]

MSB aka Af-Libaax.
Lol @ blow up Hergeisa. Few militia used civilian homes as shields. I believe every government has a responsibility to eliminate any threat to National Security in any way possible.

[Thuganomics]

Every government has a responsibility to eliminate any threat to National Security in any way possible.

Rule No one of the Dictators hand book

[Conqueror]

Every government has a responsibility to eliminate any threat to National Security in any way possible.

Rule No one of the Dictators hand book

Thug, illahay baan kugu dharshay e, haadii manta Somaliland o loo aqoonsaday dawlad iyo wadan e magaalada Burco militia/rebels take over o guryahaa civilianska dhex gasho, maxaad sameenlaheed if you were the President?

[eliteSomali]

libaax buu ahaa odayga. ilahaay hau naxariiste.

[Thuganomics]

Dumb question knowing my stance

[Conqueror]

Dumb question knowing my stance

Come on bro. You have to answer it. I asked you a question that deserves a logical answer.

[Conqueror]

libaax buu ahaa odayga. ilahaay hau naxariiste.

Libaaxii Africa ciyarciyar loguma bixin!

[Thuganomics]

Dumb question knowing my stance

Come on bro. You have to answer it. I asked you a question that deserves a logical answer.

I swear as God is my witness I wouldn't bomb innocent people
Just to get at the enemy.What f-king sense does that make
Look at Gaddaffi and Assad and Sadam with the Kurds

[Conqueror]

I swear as God is my witness I wouldn't bomb innocent people
Just to get at the enemy.What f-king sense does that make
Look at Gaddaffi and Assad and Sadam with the Kurds

Gartay. Thug, let me make it a little more clearer. SNM took over half of Hergeisa and controlled it for few weeks or few months (I think). In that time, they killed Government employees and other people they disliked.

Let's put that scenario in a recognized Somaliland. Let's say a Anti-Somaliland rebels took over Burco, killed every Somaliland government employee and killed anyone they didn't like in that city. Let's say they are controlling it for 2 months.

What would you do, if you were the president?

[Based]

The topic title is highly inappropriate

[Thuganomics]

I swear as God is my witness I wouldn't bomb innocent people
Just to get at the enemy.What f-king sense does that make
Look at Gaddaffi and Assad and Sadam with the Kurds

Gartay. Thug, let me make it a little more clearer. SNM took over half of Hergeisa and controlled it for few weeks or few months (I think). In that time, they killed Government employees and other people they disliked.

Let's put that scenario in a recognized Somaliland. Let's say a Anti-Somaliland rebels took over Burco, killed every Somaliland government employee and killed anyone they didn't like in that city. Let's say they are controlling it for 2 months.

What would you do, if you were the president?

Waxaasi waa hypothetica and it serves no purpose sxb
Afwayne bombed his own civilians to smithereens not some foreign invading army.
Just like those I already listed. Markaa let's stay on topic

[Conqueror]

Waxaasi hypothetica and it serves no purpose sxb
Afwayne bombed his own civilians to smithereens not some foreign invading army.
Just like those I already listed. Markaa let's stay on topic

I'm stay on topic. You mentioned that Siyaad Barre bombed his own civilians. But, let's look at the SNM side. They invaded a peaceful city, knowing fully that the Government would retaliate with military force. Now, if they care about the civilian population, why would they invade a peaceful city, knowing the outcome would be devastating? SNM could've chosen it's battles wisely. They could've had a fight with Government forces in the country side/outskirts, but instead they went into peaceful towns and used the civilians and homes as shields.

I asked you a hypothetical question. You threw it out as "it serves me no purpose". Isn't that hypocritical on your part, sxb?

[Thuganomics]

I asked you a hypothetical question. You threw it out as "it serves me no purpose". Isn't that hypocritical on your part, sxb?

hypothetical on my part find out what hypothetical means horta





Seeing as you want to pursue it the SNM didn't come out of a vacuum
They had legitimate grievance and they used the classic guerrilla tactics to to achieve their aims.
It was down to the ruling gov to use tact to win back the hearts and minds of the local population by appearing to at least seem like they wanted to talk with the SNM rather just bomb bomb bomb everything that moved

[hargaysaay]

personaly speaking i think msb foreign policy deserves to be well celebrated and the brave stances he took on many issues if somalis have any dignity left its becouse of what they did in siyaads era the the man was desasterous in domestic issue, ilaahay ha u naxariisdto