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Somali constitution>Right to abortion:Bans circumcision;

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is this a good thing or a terrible infringement of the rights of our religion? I want to be enlightened.



Somali leaders are debating a new constitution that protects the right to have an abortion to save the life of the mother, and an international law group says the draft guarantees more fundamental rights than the U.S. Constitution.

That’s one reason some women are celebrating the document and hardline conservatives are protesting some of its more liberal promises.

But some of the rights introduced, such as the right to medical care or clean, potable water, will be hard for the government to guarantee in a country where basic needs like food are not always met. While other elements, such as banning the circumcision of girls, a practice the U.N. says more than 95 percent of women have undergone, will take years to banish.
Somali leaders — 825 of them — began a nine-day meeting on Wednesday to examine, debate and vote on the constitution, a document that’s been years in the making. A vote by the group, known as the National Constituent Assembly, is likely to be held late next week and is a key step in a flurry of political activity in Somalia over the next month.

The U.N. mandate for Somalia’s current government expires on Aug. 20, and Somali leaders are to vote on the constitution, vote in a new 275-member parliament and then vote on a president all before then. If the assembly votes down the constitution, the new parliament will have to debate it and then vote on it.

Somali Prime Minister Abdiwali Mohamed Ali, who for years lived in western New York, called the gathering of Somali leaders a milestone and said the new constitution “is a symbol of justice and equality for our people and country.” He said that the new constitution is only meant to be temporary. The eventual goal is to pass a constitution by countrywide vote, but the security, money and organization needed to hold a nationwide vote is still years away. Al-Shabab militants were pushed out of Mogadishu last year but still rule south-central Somalia.

The current constitution is the Transitional Federal Charter, which was written in 2004. Meant only as a temporary charter, it contains fewer rights than are spelled out in the new draft constitution.

The draft constitution makes it clear that Islamic law is the basis for Somalia’s legal foundation. No religion other than Islam can be propagated in the country and all laws must be compliant with Shariah — Islamic — law. Despite those clauses, the constitution also says that “every person is free to practice his or her religion,” though no other religions are mentioned in the document.

The draft guarantees minority rights but does not mention homosexuality. It says nomarriage is legal without the consent “of both the man and woman,” a formula that appears to define marriage as a heterosexual institution but one that also forbids child marriage.
Augustine P. Mahiga, the U.N. representative for Somalia, said the constitution will “bring Somalia into the 21st century on issues such as fundamental human rights and freedoms, including empowerment of women.”
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Re: Somali constitution>Right to abortion:Bans circumcision;

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damn galo. concerned about gay marriage and other abominations. this is what they expect and in time will get because they're paying for this "constitution".
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Somali-Star wrote:damn galo. concerned about gay marriage and other abominations. this is what they expect and in time will get because they're paying for this "constitution".
it says no marriage is valid without it being between a man and a woman

and abortion is only valid in the event the mother is at serious risk

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Somali leaders are debating a new constitution that protects the right to have an abortion to save the life of the mother
Tough call. Would you kill a baby to safe the mother?

Banning FGM on girls: :up: :up: :up: This is the greatest news out of Somalia for a long time.
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waryaa wrote:
Somali leaders are debating a new constitution that protects the right to have an abortion to save the life of the mother
Tough call. Would you kill a baby to safe the mother?

Banning FGM on girls: :up: :up: :up: This is the greatest news out of Somalia for a long time.

Doesnt the religion allow abortion in the event that the mother is grave danger? I think so because our religion is all about common sense and sensentivity to the human soul.
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This is what the draft consititions says

"Abortion is contrary to Shari’ah and is prohibited except in cases of necessity, especially to save the life of the mother."
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waryaa wrote:
Somali leaders are debating a new constitution that protects the right to have an abortion to save the life of the mother
Tough call. Would you kill a baby to safe the mother?

Banning FGM on girls: :up: :up: :up: This is the greatest news out of Somalia for a long time.
Yes, Islamically speaking you save the mother and kill the baby. A mother can have another child, but a baby growing up without a mother is very difficult. Plus a baby has its innocence and it dying sakiir is better than a mother dying giving birth to it.
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