Mitt Romney Vs. Barack Obama Debate

[X.Playa]

Think about this for the last 35 years every election was about :

1- jobs
2- deficit
3- war

Thats how they manage the farm and keep the cow busy chewing their cud. There won't be jobs because a huge unemployed masses are good for the capitalist they need at least 30% of the population jobless and desprate, why creat jobs for them and make labor expenses.

Deficit , there always will be deficit, deficit are never meant to be solved its a good excuse to cut all social programs , why is there a deficit?? nobody ever aske this question , the expenditure in social programs in America never changed for 30 odd years and there is always a deficit, the swindle is this:

1- If there is no deficit, creat one , give tax cuts to the rich say 5 billion.

2- as result of that you have now shortage of 5 billions, so you have a deficit, nice

3- now act all responsible and cry the sky is falling if we don't fix the deficit.

4- cut we have to cut we can't afford to live like this, then cut what ever the working class use.

5- You have cut , medicare, U.I, Food Stamps , all , the deficit is fixed , give your big buddies a tax cut and play the game over aganist the stupid peseants, all over again.

Wars,?? there always will be war, war is a business for the capitalist and its good to keep the working class busy and fearfull , and some time when you need a vote and can't get it .. punch Iran in the head or Somalia or the usual dark/brown people and out of mistaken patriotaism people will vote.

Thats the game.

[Shirib]

X Playa

Go write a book, American politics for dummies, the majority of retarded voters don't see the reality around them

[FAH1223]

Think about this for the last 35 years every election was about :

1- jobs
2- deficit
3- war

Thats how they manage the farm and keep the cow busy chewing their cud. There won't be jobs because a huge unemployed masses are good for the capitalist they need at least 30% of the population jobless and desprate, why creat jobs for them and make labor expenses.

Deficit , there always will be deficit, deficit are never meant to be solved its a good excuse to cut all social programs , why is there a deficit?? nobody ever aske this question , the expenditure in social programs in America never changed for 30 odd years and there is always a deficit, the swindle is this:

1- If there is no deficit, creat one , give tax cuts to the rich say 5 billion.

2- as result of that you have now shortage of 5 billions, so you have a deficit, nice

3- now act all responsible and cry the sky is falling if we don't fix the deficit.

4- cut we have to cut we can't afford to live like this, then cut what ever the working class use.

5- You have cut , medicare, U.I, Food Stamps , all , the deficit is fixed , give your big buddies a tax cut and play the game over aganist the stupid peseants, all over again.

Wars,?? there always will be war, war is a business for the capitalist and its good to keep the working class busy and fearfull , and some time when you need a vote and can't get it .. punch Iran in the head or Somalia or the usual dark/brown people and out of mistaken patriotaism people will vote.

Thats the game.

[udun]

Actually, Obama hit Romney hard on his programs which Romney has kept saying he has plans but he never mentioned what they are and how hye is gonna pay for it. Obama emphasized those and asked Romney why is it that he can't tell what they are and how he is going to pay for those. He should have returned to those programs and stayed on the attack, which he didn't.

In reality, voting for either one of them is bad for any Muslim voter in America. Either one of these men who gets elected will continue the war against Muslims, and you will continue seeing Muslims dying under their bombradment or fleeing their homes and their cities because of the policies one of these men will champion directly or indirectly. Don't forget Obama is the 1st black president who attacked an African state--Libya, overthrew that country's government, and got delighted when he saw the killing of its president. Don't forget Obama and his fellow Zionist handlers + Wahabbist Saudi Arabia and Zion Qatar are the ones wrecking havoc on fellow Muslim State of Syria. You vote for one of them, and you support the carnage against Muslims. There is no difference between the two men!

[herndonhomer]

I've been hearing people saying obama is only liked because he's black

[AgentOfChaos]

Source bitches



Things obama has done

I'm sick and tired of people asking "What has Obama done?" So here's a list of things he's done since he's been in office. Remember: He was elected President. He wasn't elected Jesus!

The list is still growing. Let me know if I missed anything.

THIS LIST IS NOT DONE / UPDATED. IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION


1. Saved the collapse of the American automotive industry by making GM restructure before bailing them out, and putting incentive money to help the industry

2. Shifted the focus of the war from Iraq to Afghanistan, and putting the emphasis on reducing terrorism where it should have been all along

3. Relaxed Anti-American tensions throughout the world

4. Signed order to close the prisoner “torture camp” at Guantanamo Bay

5. Has made the environment a national priority, and a primary source for job creation

6. Has made education a national priority by putting emphasis and money behind new ideas like charter schools, but speaking directly to school children in telling them they have to do their part.

7. Won the Nobel Peace Prize

8. $789 billion economic stimulus plan

9. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court

10. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles

11. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans

12. Renewed dialogue with NATO and other allies and partners on strategic issues.

13. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force… this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.


14. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops

15. “Cash for clunkers” program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulates auto sales

16. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan

17. Closed offshore tax safe havens

18. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan

19. Ended media “blackout” on war casualties; reporting full information

20. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts

21. . Ended media blackout on war casualties and the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB.

22. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules

23. Ended previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings

24. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports

25. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act has created 2.1 million jobs (as of 12/31/09).

26. Ended previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions

27. Ended previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back

28. Ended previous policy on torture; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards

29. . Launched Recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, an unprecedented step to provide transparency and accountability through technology.

30. Ended previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices

31. Ended previous “stop-loss” policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date

32. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources

33. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient

34. Established a new cyber security office

35. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children

36. Expanding vaccination programs

37. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses

38. . Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans.

39. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research

40. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools

41. Responded with compassion and leadership to the earthquake in Haiti

42. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters

43. . Launched Business.gov – enabling conversation and online collaboration between small business owners, government representatives and industry experts in discussion forums relevant to starting and managing a business. Great for the economy.

44. Improved housing for military personnel

45. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals

46. Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan.

47. Improving benefits for veterans

48. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants…) after years of neglect

49. Donated his $1.4 million Nobel Prize to nonprofits.

50. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program

51. Provided tax credits to first-time home buyers through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 to revitalize the U.S. housing market.

52. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel

53. Increasing student loans

54. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return “home” to visit loved ones

55. Cracked down on companies that deny sick pay, vacation and health insurance to workers by abusing the employee classification of independent contractor. Such companies also avoid paying Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance taxes for those workers.

56. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000

57. Limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House

58. Protected 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors through the Recovery Act that would have otherwise been lost.

59. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration

60. Children’s Health Insurance Reauthorization Act on February 4, 2009, provides quality health care to 11 million kids – 4 million who were previously uninsured.

61. Lower drug costs for seniors

62. Making more loans available to small businesses

63. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration

64. . Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first piece of comprehensive legislation aimed at improving the lives of Americans living with paralysis


65. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans

66. Announced creation of a Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record for members of the U.S. Armed Forces to improve quality of medical care.

67. New federal funding for science and research labs

68. New funds for school construction

69. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending

70. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices

71. . Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals.

72. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan

73. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions

74. Provided tax credit to workers thus cutting taxes for 95% of America's working families.

75. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic

76. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research

77. . Helped reverse a downward spiral of the stock market. On January 19, 2009, the last day of President Bush's presidency, the Dow closed at 8,218.22. In February 2010, the Dow closed at 10,309.24

78. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel

79. Restarted the nuclear non-proliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols

80. Provided attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles.

81. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters

82. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy

83. Unveiled a program on Earth Day 2009 to develop the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. These regulations will enable, for the first time ever, the nation to tap into our ocean’s vast sustainable resources to generate clean energy in an environmentally sound and safe manner.


84. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program

85. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards

86. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced

87. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job

88. The FDA is now regulating tobacco

89. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date.

90. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010

91. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying

92. The “secret detention” facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed

93. US financial and banking rescue plan

94. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast

95. . Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system.

96. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office

97. Improved relations with Iran

98. Improved U.S. policy on climate change

99. Set timetable for exiting Iraq (already started removing troops)

100. Improved relations with Russia

101. Improved relations with the Islamic World

102. Made progress towards greater cooperation on limiting nuclear proliferation

103. Economic stimulus plan has created jobs. (Unemployment rate decreasing)

104. Drastically slowed down the recession

105. Saved Wall Street

106. Passed the Lilly Ledbetter Act (equal work for equal pay) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilly_Ledb ... ct_of_2009

107. HEALTHCARE REFORM

108. Ordered the military operation that killed Osama Bin Laden

THIS LIST IS NOT DONE / UPDATED. IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Once again, this is a lot to accomplish in such a short amount of time. He was elected President, he wasn't elected Jesus.

[Sagaashan]

The only time i agree with Palin:

It was a struggle to watch some parts of this, as you considered President Obama with his lack of enthusiasm for his own policies and his lack of conviction

Its not that he lost, you win some you lose some, but that he did not show any compassion for his own policies, very disappointing

[Shirib]

Agent of chaos,

I don't have time to answer all of those but i'll do the first 10


1. Saved the collapse of the American automotive industry by making GM restructure before bailing them out, and putting incentive money to help the industry

He was against bail outs, but still bailed out a company interesting, why the hell was he blasting Republicans for the bail outs to begin with then?

2. Shifted the focus of the war from Iraq to Afghanistan, and putting the emphasis on reducing terrorism where it should have been all along

The war in Afghanistan is costing America way too much and the toll of American casualties has soared since his surge. More Americans died in Afghanistan in the last 4 years of the war then previous 7. And its becoming clearer and clearer that we're losing and that the Taliban is gaining strength.


3. Relaxed Anti-American tensions throughout the world

No he didn't, America is looked as negatively as ever

4. Signed order to close the prisoner “torture camp” at Guantanamo Bay

Guantanamo is still open and ain't being closed anytime soon, he said he'd close Guantanamo down. It's not closed!

5. Has made the environment a national priority, and a primary source for job creation

Green sector growth is for the few and far between.Its not helping the average American.

6. Has made education a national priority by putting emphasis and money behind new ideas like charter schools, but speaking directly to school children in telling them they have to do their part.


Aww, how heart warming, American tuition rates are going up across the board and drop out rates are rising. People with degrees don't have jobs, and are getting out of college with tons of debt, and there is no forgiveness for that debt. Where's the priority?

7. Won the Nobel Peace Prize

A guy who's running the biggest military machine on earth, give me a break, what a joke. He's responsible for more deaths than any other leader on earth.

8. $789 billion economic stimulus plan

Economy is still in shambles, he still hasn't been able to get new revenue streams and extended Bush tax cuts.

9. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court

woopty freakin doo

10. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles

whoohoo, more tax cuts for the wealthy

[AgentOfChaos]

Shirib

1: Republican's bailout is entirely different ballgame (pro-financial corporations and anti-auto companies) Obama blamed Republicans for not supporting to bailout USA auto makers like General Motors. Thanks Obama thousands of jobs were not lost.

2: Both wars were the byproducts of America's urge to "do something" after 9/11. One was "just" other was not, so Obama focused of fighting Osama and his fighters no matter what the cost.

3: Compared to Bush administration, Obama's administration is favored more in the world.


4: It says the “torture camp” at Guantanamo Bay is closed, it doesn't say the entire military base is closed, cause that's what Guantanamo Bay is first and foremost, a military base. The entire base wasn't closed, just the “torture camp”, that's all.

5: Rome wasn't build in a day, besides some steps towards environmental change is better than nothing.

{Do we really have to do this?}

6: Well students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced.

7: Well in 2008 people were high on Obama, not just USA but all around the world, even the Nobel Committee said they gave Obama the Nobel Prize because he changed the global climate.

I'm tired.....You know what? It's clear that you really don't like Obama and I respect your opinion, so let's just say to each his own and call it a day shall we.

[Shirib]

Agent of Chaos,

fine but all of those things are refutable, especially the war in Afghanistan, and the Nobel Prize was a joke then and is a even bigger joke now.

[AgentOfChaos]

shirib: Good to know bro.