Hadith about Khawaarij Mohamed Ibn Abd Al-wahab

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Your running around in circles, you came outta nowhere and made a proclamation that he prophet was referring to iraq, when i showed cut & clear that he was referring to the najd of eastern medina you responded with irrelevance, then now you are trying to say that i'm taking shots at bani tamiim, bani tamiim have had a bad reputation in the hadiths, the group of men from najd who came to medina annoying the prophet shouting his name out, dhul-khawairsa the man who disrespected the prophet, who is bani tamiim who reside in najd, musaylimah katthab a false prophet, you cannot blame me if i stain their reputation, after-all today they are staining it more then ever with their
loyalty and sub-serviant behaviour to the kuffar , despite it being prohibited in the quran, like the prophet said, they will read it but will not act upon it.

The hadith on najd warned us of the deviant sheikh who mislead the ummah, his own brother said you are the qarnush shaydan, his offspring sided with the kuffar along with
the saud's who are also banu xaneef or bani tamiim najdis, led the betrayel of islam against the khilafa, where is the akhlaq and aqli, i've seen enough of evil coming out of najd, and its blind folks like you who fail to recognise that the fitna and corruption of najd, is the fitna and corruption of Ibn abdal wahab.


You say its iraq, i proved wrong

You now say that there are other najds?, The land of Al-Yamamah, Bani tamiim and bani xaneefa was the land being referred to, you have so many blatant proof, by the prophet pointing EAST of medina, Iraq is NORTH-EAST of medina, whilst riyad lies directly east of medina, on the same straight line.

If your gonna respond stop running around in circles.
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Abakar, what saxaabis where from Iraq? Yemen was barely conqured during the rasuls time, and the muslims didn't even enter Syria yet.
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Your running around in circles, you came outta nowhere and made a proclamation that he prophet was referring to iraq, when i showed cut & clear that he was referring to the najd of eastern medina you responded with irrelevance,


It's Najd, in the direction of Iraq. There was 13 Najd recorded in the old accounts of Arabia and Imam Nawawi/Ibn Xajar clearly state the Najd of Medinah is the one in the direction of Iraq, the same land which produced the most deviant sects that claim Islam, the land where the grandson of the Rasool was murdered, the land where the first battle between the Muslims i.e. the fitan of the time occured.. Now until you can prove to me the Najd mentioned in the hadith is the same Najd of Riyadh and Uyaynah, or that the trials and tribulations including the followers of the Dajjal will be the Najd of Riyadh and Uyaynah, depsite the fact a hadith is mentioned of the Banu tamiim being defendants against Dajjal, then i will continue to take the interpretations of Imam Nawawi and Ibn Xajar amongst others of the Ahl sunnah ridwanallah calayhim.
then now you are trying to say that i'm taking shots at bani tamiim, bani tamiim have had a bad reputation in the hadiths, the group of men from najd who came to medina annoying the prophet shouting his name out, dhul-khawairsa the man who disrespected the prophet, who is bani tamiim who reside in najd, musaylimah katthab a false prophet, you cannot blame me if i stain their reputation, after-all today they are staining it more then ever with their
loyalty and sub-serviant behaviour to the kuffar , despite it being prohibited in the quran, like the prophet said, they will read it but will not act upon it.
What group of men? And how does the actions of dhul khawaysara reflect the people of tamiim? he as an individual was raysal khawaarij, where in Islamic history did the banu tamiim become the upholders of the khawaarij? By your way of things, can we point fingers at quraysh, the tribe of Abu Jahl? Can we say the Umawiyiin are evil because of Xajaaj bin Yusuf athaqafi?

The hadith on najd warned us of the deviant sheikh who mislead the ummah, his own brother said you are the qarnush shaydan, his offspring sided with the kuffar along with
the saud's who are also banu xaneef or bani tamiim najdis, led the betrayel of islam against the khilafa, where is the akhlaq and aqli, i've seen enough of evil coming out of najd, and its blind folks like you who fail to recognise that the fitna and corruption of najd, is the fitna and corruption of Ibn abdal wahab.
So the hadith warns of a man who is to be born only in the last 300 years? :lol:
And his brother refuting him...that doesn't mean he is against the Sunnah...Imam Ahmed was once the only known scholar of his time to state the Quran is not a creation but the qawl of Allah.
What his offsprings do does not concern the origin and the way of Mohammed Abdulwahhab. The same way Abdulqaadir jaylaani and his teachings are free from the spirited shirk that takes place in his name by people who claim to follow his teachings.

You say its iraq, i proved wrong

You now say that there are other najds?, The land of Al-Yamamah, Bani tamiim and bani xaneefa was the land being referred to, you have so many blatant proof, by the prophet pointing EAST of medina, Iraq is NORTH-EAST of medina, whilst riyad lies directly east of medina, on the same straight line.
Refer to my earlier comment in this post. Like i said before, you are not the geographer here. East can be as vague as China and north East can be as vague as Siberia. I will not pay attention to someone who wants to use his own intepretation to understand demographics when previous scholars who knew the lands of the Old Arabia have settled this issue.
If your gonna respond stop running around in circles.
Learn under a teacher, thats my advice to you. You dont bring me scholars when you stress your points, what use is there to discuss things if its just my words against yours, we are both jaahil, remember that bro.
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Yaa jahilkan naga qabin doona, war meenad indho lahayn?

for the people of Iraq it is Dbat al-’Irq; for the people of Najd it is Qarn (al-Manazil) and for the people of Yemen it is Yalamlam.

^ These are the words of rasulilah, he made a distinction between najd and iraq, and why do you ridicule me when you say he warned us of a man who lived 300 years ago?, the knowledge of the prophet is beyond our comprehension, by the will of allah he warned us of the tall clock tower they built behind the ka'ba, back to the topic, the case is closed, it is not iraq by futher deduction, otherwise you are declaring this hadith to be false, since it isn't iraq, are you going to claim it was yemen?

The land of tamiim saw musaylima kathab, and abu jahal and abu lahab were not muslim, but musaylima, dhul-khawairsa, abdul-wahab were, and abdul-wahab was the man who layed the final stone in spreading this fitna that reached out to the umma, with the thanks of a british spy ofcourse, but what do you know? you probably came out of their brainwashing institutions they call universities.

All your people do is threaten me with nar, with a hadith that they interpret like blind donkeys, (73 sects) the ulema have become a joke, i closed the case of it being najd, because 2 hadiths prove not, unless you cannot read, don't bother saying sheikh sidan bu yiraaday, at the end of the day, sunna and quran hold the final verdict, and the hadith states that the qibla for iraq is so and so, and for najd its so and so, which futher indicated that the two are not the same place, and that najd, is east of medina, not north-east, do not use the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (A.S) as a defense to call it the fitna, the fitna has just begun, with the tyranny reign of saudi arabia, with the help of the salafi/wahabi doctrine as their main version of islam they promote whilst they are in bed with the kuffar, nacala tulla aal'al munafiqoon, i had it with these people who did nothing in the last 300 years but have destroyed islam with their dark-ridden hearts, it doesn't matter how clean your khamis is or how big your beard is, or how much salah's you pray, or how much times you go to the mosque, the aqeeda of the modern fake 'salafi' is the aqeeda of qarnush shaydan.

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Yaa jahilkan naga qabin doona, war meenad indho lahayn?

for the people of Iraq it is Dbat al-’Irq; for the people of Najd it is Qarn (al-Manazil) and for the people of Yemen it is Yalamlam.

^ These are the words of rasulilah, he made a distinction between najd and iraq, and why do you ridicule me when you say he warned us of a man who lived 300 years ago?, the knowledge of the prophet is beyond our comprehension, by the will of allah he warned us of the tall clock tower they built behind the ka'ba, back to the topic, the case is closed, it is not iraq by futher deduction, otherwise you are declaring this hadith to be false, since it isn't iraq, are you going to claim it was yemen?

The land of tamiim saw musaylima kathab, and abu jahal and abu lahab were not muslim, but musaylima, dhul-khawairsa, abdul-wahab were, and abdul-wahab was the man who layed the final stone in spreading this fitna that reached out to the umma, with the thanks of a british spy ofcourse, but what do you know? you probably came out of their brainwashing institutions they call universities.

All your people do is threaten me with nar, with a hadith that they interpret like blind donkeys, (73 sects) the ulema have become a joke, i closed the case of it being najd, because 2 hadiths prove not, unless you cannot read, don't bother saying sheikh sidan bu yiraaday, at the end of the day, sunna and quran hold the final verdict, and the hadith states that the qibla for iraq is so and so, and for najd its so and so, which futher indicated that the two are not the same place, and that najd, is east of medina, not north-east, do not use the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (A.S) as a defense to call it the fitna, the fitna has just begun, with the tyranny reign of saudi arabia, with the help of the salafi/wahabi doctrine as their main version of islam they promote whilst they are in bed with the kuffar, nacala tulla aal'al munafiqoon, i had it with these people who did nothing in the last 300 years but have destroyed islam with their dark-ridden hearts, it doesn't matter how clean your khamis is or how big your beard is, or how much salah's you pray, or how much times you go to the mosque, the aqeeda of the modern fake 'salafi' is the aqeeda of qarnush shaydan.

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Yaa jahilkan naga qabin doona, war meenad indho lahayn?

for the people of Iraq it is Dbat al-’Irq; for the people of Najd it is Qarn (al-Manazil) and for the people of Yemen it is Yalamlam.
Food for thought,
The hadeeth of ibn Umar Reported by Abu Nu'aym in al-Hilya (6/133), "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Madeenah, and bestow your blessings on our Mecca, and bestow your blessings on our Shaam, and bestow your blessings on our Yemen, and bestow your blessings in our measuring (fee saa'inaa wa muddinaa)." A person said, " O Messenger of Allaah and in our Iraaq" and so he turned away from him and said, "there will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations and there will appear the horn of Satan."

Shu'ayb al-Arna'ut declares it's isnaad to be saheeh as in his footnotes to 'Sharh as-Sunnah' (14/206-207 fn. 2) and he too endorses the words of al-Khattaabee quoted above.

The hadeeth of ibn Umar reported in at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Awsat' that the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam prayed Fajr and then faced the people and said, "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Madeenah, O Allaah bestow your blessings in our measuring, O Allaah bestow your blessings in our Shaam and our Yemen." A person said, "And Iraaq O Messenger of Allaah?" He said, "from there arises the horn of Satan and the trials and tribulations would come like mounting waves."

Ibn Hajr al-Haythamee says in his 'Mujma az-Zawaa'id' (3/305 - chapter 'collection of du'aas made for (Madeenah)'): 'its narrators are trustworthy and precise.'
^ These are the words of rasulilah, he made a distinction between najd and iraq, and why do you ridicule me when you say he warned us of a man who lived 300 years ago?, the knowledge of the prophet is beyond our comprehension, by the will of allah he warned us of the tall clock tower they built behind the ka'ba, back to the topic, the case is closed, it is not iraq by futher deduction, otherwise you are declaring this hadith to be false, since it isn't iraq, are you going to claim it was yemen?
The Prophet did not mention Mohammed Abdulwahhab in the hadith and theres nothing to suggest he was referring to him either. What shuyukh do you have on your side to prove your point? Ahmad ibn Hanbal the caalim of ahl sunnah who was from Ciraaq himself has praised and venerated the banu tamiim. How great it is, the unbiased nature of the men of truth!
The land of tamiim saw musaylima kathab, and abu jahal and abu lahab were not muslim, but musaylima, dhul-khawairsa, abdul-wahab were, and abdul-wahab was the man who layed the final stone in spreading this fitna that reached out to the umma, with the thanks of a british spy ofcourse, but what do you know? you probably came out of their brainwashing institutions they call universities.
Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab did well to tow their tribes into emnity against the Prophet which was why an entire Surah was revealed to rebuke them (surah Quraish)...now what did Musaylama or Dhul Kuwaysara ever do to represent their tribes? Mohammad Abdulwahhab was Sheikhul Tawheed and you should look at his teachings if you want to address him. What fitnah did he cause? Spreading tawheed against the face of shirk? Wheres your concrete proof that a British spy worked with Sheikh Mohammad Abdulwahhab?

All your people do is threaten me with nar, with a hadith that they interpret like blind donkeys, (73 sects) the ulema have become a joke, i closed the case of it being najd, because 2 hadiths prove not, unless you cannot read, don't bother saying sheikh sidan bu yiraaday, at the end of the day, sunna and quran hold the final verdict, and the hadith states that the qibla for iraq is so and so, and for najd its so and so, which futher indicated that the two are not the same place, and that najd, is east of medina, not north-east, do not use the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (A.S) as a defense to call it the fitna, the fitna has just begun, with the tyranny reign of saudi arabia, with the help of the salafi/wahabi doctrine as their main version of islam they promote whilst they are in bed with the kuffar, nacala tulla aal'al munafiqoon, i had it with these people who did nothing in the last 300 years but have destroyed islam with their dark-ridden hearts, it doesn't matter how clean your khamis is or how big your beard is, or how much salah's you pray, or how much times you go to the mosque, the aqeeda of the modern fake 'salafi' is the aqeeda of qarnush shaydan.
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The last sheikh i'll turn to is Abdul-wahab, the man who was called ignorant by the ulema of madina and makka, he and his sons along with his cousins betrayed islam , destroyed the khilafa, and did nothing but brought damnation upon the ummah, sheikhul this and sheikhul that doesn't mean everything, the only books i turn to are the books of ibn kathir, al-ghazali, Ahmad Azzaruqi, As-suyuti and these were sheikhs who lived between the time of ibn taymiyya, and ibn abdul wahab, and abdal wahab declared that the 800 years between him and taymiyya were 800 years of kufr and shirk, this man was so arrogant, he was an easy target for the british spy hempher, glorify him in any you want, to you your religon and to me mine.

And is Al-Tabaranee Al-Aswat even the same status as Bukhari? should i bring forth Mishkat shareef
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