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Formation of Jubbaland tests delicate political balance

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Formation of Jubbaland tests delicate political balance

Tuesday, November 27, 2012
By Majid Ahmed


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Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud addresses the media during a press conference at the presidential palace in Mogadishu on November 14th. Mohamud focused his speech on corruption, security and the formation of a Jubbaland state. [Mohamed Abdiwahab/AFP]


After Somali and allied forces took over Kismayo from al-Shabaab in September, sharp differences have emerged regarding the formation of a Jubbaland state in the federation.
Formal efforts to create Jubbaland began in Nairobi in July with sponsorship from the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD), the Kenyan government, the African Union and the UN Political Office for Somalia.

Under the federal system outlined by Somalia's new constitution, at least two administrative regions must join together to create a state in the federation. The proposed Jubbaland state would include Lower Jubba, Middle Jubba and Gedo regions, considered one of the most tribally diverse areas in Somalia.

"The technical committee is working on a plan for the formation of the state of Jubbaland by conducting consultations with local communities in all three regions with the objective of building a broad-based regional government," said Abdinasir Serar, spokesman for the Ras Kamboni militia.

According to Serar, the process is in the hands of a technical committee comprising 32 members. Twenty-nine represent Somali tribes living in the three regions, and three are from Kenya and the IGAD taking part in a monitoring capacity.

The current process, however, has a number of critics.

"Some of the tribes in Kismayo are seeking to dominate the government in Jubbaland, claiming that they are a majority tribe in the region and thereby marginalising the other original tribes in the area," Gedo Governor Mohamed Abdi Kalil told Sabahi. "Local residents in the three regions want to form an all-inclusive administration that satisfies all sides."

He said no single tribe or group should take the responsibility of forming the Jubbaland administration "without consulting with other tribes in the area because that could create a new conflict among the tribes that live in the region".

Role of the central government

Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud on November 14th said in his first speech since his election that the Somali government should lead efforts to form local governments in territories liberated from al-Shabaab.

"The Somali government supports local residents in the liberated areas, including the Jubba regions, in forming regional administrations," he said.

"This does not mean that we will appoint regional officials from Mogadishu, because that is the responsibility of the local communities, but the federal government has to be responsible for leading the efforts to form the regional administrations."

Mohamud urged communities in the Jubba regions to overcome minor differences and work together to form an all-inclusive administration. He also stressed that neighbouring countries should not interfere in Somalia's internal affairs.

Opposition to Kenyan influence

Mohamud also expressed his opposition to unilateral efforts on the part of Kenya and IGAD to create a regional administration in Jubbaland without collaboration with the Somali government.

According to Hussein Abdi Aden, former president of Kismayo University, Kenya wants to take control of forming a Jubbaland regional administration so that it can protect its strategic interests and create a buffer zone.

"Kenya supports the formation of a buffer zone in Jubbaland to secure its land and maritime borders with Somalia against any terrorist attacks that could negatively impact its national security and economic projects," Aden told Sabahi.

Ismail Mohamed, a Mogadishu-based political analyst, said the Jubbaland issue is complicated and exacerbates political differences between officials in Mogadishu and regional representatives in Kismayo.

"There is a political battle over control of the upcoming process to govern Jubbaland and if the relevant parties do not reach an agreement on creating the administration of Jubbaland, then the political battle will turn into a tribal crisis," Mohamed told Sabahi.

"Kenyan support for particular tribes over others in Kismayo could set the region on fire, so the Somali government should be cautious when it comes to Kenyan intervention," he said.

"Although the tribes living in the Jubbas and Gedo regions were allied against al-Shabaab, which represents an obstacle on the path towards peace in Somalia, this alliance will not last long due to a conflict of interests and external interferences that favour some tribes over others," Mohamed said.
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Kismayo issue may turn the country back to chaos if not properly handed. The issue, which has already dented harmony between Somali tribes is being polarized further by the day. Talk to any random Darod and he'll tell u the gov should not put its nose where it doesn't belong. On the other hand talk to any Hawiye person and he'll tell u the opposite. This is not the general public alone, gov officials as well as other politicians are also devided. I was present when Ali Mahdi (former president/hawiye) said Kismayo's conflict is a national matter and the federal gov should lead the way. In contrast, Hassan Abshir (former prime minister/darod) said Jubbalanders should create their own administration as outlined in the constitution. Let's see if we are going to bury our heads in the sand one more time by turning this saber-rattling into clan motivated wars.

Over 90% of the countryside is still controlled by shababs.

What is the solution? I dnt know but do know our ppl's shortsightedness...

without drinking your tribe's holy water, what d u think should be done?
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Waryaa,

Why is Jubaland different from other providences within Somalia. This president is a one confused retard and so as his PM. I say let Absame run Kismayo for the time been and then held real reconciliation for the people that hail from that region who will in return create their own administration and if this slow ass president and his PM act up they should meet with real force from combined inhabitant of this region.
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Warya H block do not want Dawladnimo and maybe if they want they think getting head of state position makes them earn respect and obedience while in return they embezzle state funds and profiteer from the position and ensure that they do not forget their kins and thus award them with prominent positions that shame the nation.
We have Sh. Sharif considered one of the best leaders there ever was and infact did not leave a single penny to the treasury. He bought properties in Malaysia, turkey etc and today he is seeking asylum in Uganda.

Then we have another of his kins abusing power and his greed is so emminent that he wants to get wealthy so quickly and is busy with trying to get if not all the revenues from Kismayu port as the 4 yrs is ticking away. He needs to get funds that will make him repay Dhaam Jadiid cult and give them a good retirement package.

Well the bottome line is xassan Blacksmith was not elected out of popular support but due to corruption the likes of Belasconi.
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i don't think the jubbaland issue is as simple as (darood vs hawiye) interest. i think it is much deeper than that and it strikes at the core of the presidency and the union of somalia. currently we have two autonomous regions somaliland and puntland, both of which are northern regions and have formed long before the TFG. the long held view among somalis was to let the south get peace then form and all inclusive goverment however if the south itself seperates into autonomous regions like the north did then the south cannot come as one entity thus mogadishu will no longer be the capital of somalia and where all somalis where represented but mogadishu will be a clan city which has no relevance in the south so how can they approach the north?

i am for jubbaland creation but as a federal state and not as an autonomous state.
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Waryaa,

I think that if all the people of those regions came together and said we want to form a state as its our right to do so according to the constitution and given the fact that there are other states governing themselves, for the president to put his foot down on the Jubaland administration process and say ill be making that decision for you is wrong. And if he does not follow the law he will be responsible for whatever happens.
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everybody knows that, when jubaland is build the artificial power structure that emerged during the civil war will come to a end. a natural power structure will emerge when the federal system is implemented.

the hawiye are using the central state to further their interest, that's why they oppose any form of regional government that might curtail or balance their autocratic anarchic views on statehood

the hawiye plan centers on their domination of Mogadishu and any form of power devolution is seen by them as curtailing their nepotism

somali sovereignty will be shared by all the regions and mogadishu will be just what it is, namely capital city and noting more

hawiye have a absolutist view on what a government should be, so i am not surprised to hear their mambo jambo with regards to jubaland
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The solution is......there is no solution ..........Jubbaland will be formed willingly or unwillingly ........it's insane to discuss the issue with HAG.......
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One thing I really do not understand is the following
According to Serar, the process is in the hands of a technical committee comprising 32 members. Twenty-nine represent Somali tribes living in the three regions, and three are from Kenya and the IGAD taking part in a monitoring capacity.
What are the 3 kenyans for ? monitoring what exactly ?
Everybody somalis and none somalis alike are all monitoring this @#!*% sh,it , why do the kikuyus have to have a seat at the table ?
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Jubbaland will be built. stop if you can.
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I like the kikuyu servants false sense of grandiosity :lol: , my Goodness , may God help he who will have to deal with these stooges
How can one not refrain from laughing at them .
Ras Kamboni-dan lagu sheego e tuutaha cusub dhagaxdu usoo gelisay , argagaxiso bay ahaan jireen .
Waxay diin ku sheegan jireen baa inti laga badilay , bay haddana ku leeyihiin

Technical committe baynu dhisanay oo 3 dhagax oo Kenya ka socota baa inoo "monitor' gareeya :lol:
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as nomad said, if another junk of the country slips away it would mean less bargaining chips for mogadishu. Farole and Alim, Puntland and Galmudug presidents respectively challenged the feds successfully on the new constitution and other national matters, can you believe what would happen if a third and extremely rich regional admin is erected from deep south.

why is Jubaland different? It can be turned into cash cow - wealth = power/prestige.

Here's the real challenge facing jubaland advocates: if one tribe feels cheated it has the option of siding with Mogadishu. In extreme cases any tribe can join the shababs directly or indirectly. It is difficult to agree on things like this when you have other options on the table.
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Warya,


The most brilliant thing this current administration can do is establish law and order in Mogadishu, and diversify the city. For as long as Mogadishu is lawless, and its representation is entirely based on clan politics, it will fan the flames of resentment all over the Country. Right now Mogadishu which is supposed to be the symbol of unity is detested in many places and the authority of the Government there made a joke. I think the problem is in Mogadishu itself. The bigger stake people feel they have in the Capital the more they will be able to cede control of their regions to the Capital. The more they feel that others have more right to the Capital than them, the more they will defy and reject them.


The fact that the Government cannot set foot in Kismayo, Bossaso, Hargeisa, should be notted. The Governer of Kismaayo Ahmed Madoobe kicking out a 'Gov' delgation and telling them to kick rocks should be a big wakeup call.
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The fact that the Government cannot set foot in Kismayo, Bossaso, Hargeisa, should be notted
What you need to put in your daarood head is that you all trying to act/ speak from a position of authority or strength like us , but we ain't the same DOOROS .
We , unlike your gadam,ned selves , know how to end up on the RIGHT side of history .
It takes UNITY and an INTELLIGENT leadership , none of which you possess .
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SahanGalbeed wrote:
The fact that the Government cannot set foot in Kismayo, Bossaso, Hargeisa, should be notted
What you need to put in your daarood head is that you all trying to act/ speak from a position of authority or strength like us , but we ain't the same DOOROS .
We , unlike your gadam,ned selves , know how to end up on the RIGHT side of history .
It takes UNITY and an INTELLIGENT leadership , none of which you possess .

Sahan,

Can you advise these Dooros about the RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, which you have landed....... Your guidance is sincerely appreciated from my Dooro being...... :up: :up:
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