William John Waterman, 1930: Which Somali live in Jubbaland:

[The`Republic]

You have not answered my question.

[DANGIRL]

You may proceed.

[The`Republic]

The whole reason Abdirahman Mursaal fought had to do with Marehan itself. After the British-Marehan war, they felt the colonial administration was giving too many favors to Marehan. The entire moral basis of the uprising was over greed.

Believing themselves impartial and just, British administrators presided over Somali shirs, mediated dia disputes, settled bride-wealth cases, and decided rights to watering sites. Such intervention could become dangerous for frontier representatives since they lacked legitimacy in Somali eyes and were without the means to enforce their decisions. That this was part of the reason for the Aulihan uprising is evidenced by the fact that, after the sack of Serenli, 'Abdurrahman Mursaal wrote a letter to King George V complaining of Lieutenant Elliot's partiality to the Marehan. 27

The leader of the uprising, 'Abdurrahman Mursaal, had enlisted no allies before embarking on his reckless course. In fact, it was over a dispute with rival Marehan that he had come to blows with Elliot in the first place.

Marehan then decided to join the British as payback---after all not only did Abdirahman Mursaal and Ogaden support the first British-Marehan war but they also started their uprising due to issues of Marehan rivalry

Much to the relief of anxious colonial authorities, the leaders of other Somali clans, who likewise experienced the indignities of British rule, refused to join 'Abdurrahman Mursaal. 37 Without doubt, part of the reason for their reticence lay in the already existing conflicts among the Somali clans, and had nothing to do with the Aulihan headman per se. To take the case of the Marehan, 'Abdurrahman Mursaal had supported a British attempt to disarm them in 1913 and, not surprisingly, the Marehan still had not forgotten his collaboration.

The original Marehan-British war that Mursaal and Ogaden fought on British side was different because it was due to more noble reasons

In August 1916, the British received intelligence that he was erecting a mosque in Italian territory near the Dawa River, collecting large tithes from the Marehan, and "attempting to emulate the Mullah."

Even before your uprising which gave Marehan greater reason for revenge, that they were vengeful for your support to the British was evident

By late 1916, the conflict with the Marehan overshadowed it. Indeed, Ahmed Hajji, a son of 'Abdurrahman Mursaal, was killed in October by Marehan, and unconfirmed reports attested that the rebel leader had been wounded in the leg. 94 The Marehan decided to take even more effective action against their rivals. They suspended their internal feuds

When your uprisign was put down, the Marehan jumped ship with the war booty proving they were not lackeys of the colonists but using them for payback just as the Ogaden had tried to do so before them

confiscated 2,000 camels. Only a small number of these were taken to Serenli, however, as the Marehan levies with whom they were entrusted bolted with the confiscated animals.

Meanwhile, Marehan levies conscripted to help the British with the seized Aulihan stock had scrambled off with many captured animals to the embarrassment of colonial officials.

It was because of this the British finally said enough, we cannot control this territory or its peolple--the first time Britain gave up a colony to another colonial power

More importantly, this inability to control the Marehan illustrated just how little control the colonial state exercised on the northeast frontier. This example of Somali resistance certainly would make the British think twice about imposing their dictates in the northeast for some years to come. Indeed, the presence of so-called recalcitrant Somalis there had much to do with the nature of the cession of Jubaland to Italy in 1925.

[DANGIRL]

And here I thought you would bring something new and meaingful.

*yawn*


Aulyahan(sub-clan of Ogaden)vs Marehan

[Coldoon]

And here I thought you would bring something new and meaingful.

*yawn*


Aulyahan(sub-clan of Ogaden)vs Marehan

Inalilah.

[DANGIRL]

The whole reason Abdirahman Mursaal fought had to do with Marehan itself. After the British-Marehan war, they felt the colonial administration was giving too many favors to Marehan. The entire moral basis of the uprising was over greed.

So you guys went from fighting the british to becoming their askari?

[illuminatizz]

Few corrupted authors who were bribed doesnt mean anything at all.

[guhad122]

And here I thought you would bring something new and meaingful.

*yawn*


Aulyahan(sub-clan of Ogaden)vs Marehan

Ina-Adeer Quruxleey DINGIRL,
it wasn't even Aulihan vs Mareexaan; it was Northern Cawlyahan vs the entire Mareexaan. And Voltage, when are you going to come to sense that you have no history on your side on this issue. Now you want to claim that the great leader and freedom fighter Hon. C/raxman Mursal started his movement to get back at Mareexaan? That has be one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
Even when you came with the enemy of Somalia as levies you didn't perform well:
"Once again the Marehan Levies proved to be absolutely useless and bolted. Heavily
outnumbered (Colour Sergeant Mohamed Ainashi’s force had not yet caught up), the small
KAR force adopted the tactic of laying prone on the sand & volley firing as the tribesmen
approached. Over fifty of the Aulihan were killed and many wounded. Again the levies did
not perform at all well, and almost without exception ran away. They lost 17 killed and many
wounded. In many cases they had been stabbed in the back as they fled".
http://www.britishcolonialafrica.com/PD ... GLE_2_.pdf
And by the way, the C/raxmaan Mursal freedom movement in Jubaland started way before Mareexaan came to Gedo. You were no place to be found because cities like Doolow and CeelWaaq were in the middle of the Northern Cawlyahan territory.

[The`Republic]

Dannie-

Until Aabe Siyaad's Ogaden War airlifts, Awylahan were the only Ogaden in Somalia so their specific mention is a reflection of their unique position. As for the mention of Marehan, well Marehan are a unitary group since many diverse sections of them were in the area, they are collectively mentioned together. Although the article you did provide does say the Marehan who joined with the British to get back at Mursaal's earlier treason against Somalinimo were rer Farah Ugaas (I am rer Farah Ugaas).

Guhad-

You are a predictable broken record and our discussion on this over the time has shown you don't have the skills to hold an argument because you don't even understand the context of your own sources. For example, the source that says Mursal supported the first Marehan-British were on the side of the British and this is why the Marehan held revenge for joining the following British clampdown on him is the same exact one you use but deny facts contained within. Discussing the issue with you becomes a tedious redundancy.

[DANGIRL]

Dannie-

Until Aabe Siyaad's Ogaden War airlifts, Awylahan were the only Ogaden in Somalia so their specific mention is a reflection of their unique position. As for the mention of Marehan, well Marehan are a unitary group since many diverse sections of them were in the area, they are collectively mentioned together. Although the article you did provide does say the Marehan who joined with the British to get back at Mursaal's earlier treason against Somalinimo were rer Farah Ugaas (I am rer Farah Ugaas).

Nice try, but Awylahan werent the only Ogaden in Somalia.

Very different to the Herti are the true Somali of
the bush, of which the Ogaden tribe is chiefly com-
posed. The most important sub-tribes of the latter
are the Mohammed Zubheir, the Aulehan, the Abdulla,
the Abd Wak and the Maghabul, while the Rer
Mohammed and the Habr Suliman are two minor
subdivisions

[DonCorleone]

everyone one knows daroods are hoes to foriengers.

hence even a quraan teacher teching them islaam, they will claim to come from



so this news is not new to me