The routes of lives.

[CilmiDoone]

Do we actively shape our own lives or are our lives shaped by greater actors and forces than ourselves. Is it even possible to carve our your own route or do we subconsciously just follow the routes we see before us in the society we find ourselves in? Do we form and actively mould our own characters or are we and will we be who we are? Beyond primary and secondary socialisation, at what point do we control our own life choices? Is it possible to de-socialise the things to which you have been socialised? Where are the boundaries of thought which we should not pass. Where does contemplation and pondering end and insanity begin. What is sane and what is insane, and who decides.

So many questions and so little answers. Whoa

[Basra-]

[Lillaahiya]

Nature vs. nurture time!

[CilmiDoone]

Basra am I who they want me to be? Or am I me? Or am I who I want to be? Do I have a choice? Is it preordained? Do I even exist? What is happening? Basra are you who they want you to be? Or are you, you. Or are you who you want to be? Do you have a choice? Is it preordained? Whaoa Basra so many questions and so few answers

[CilmiDoone]

Nature vs. nurture time!

No doubt about it, nature has only a fraction to do with it. Nurture is what matters. Just ask the boy who was raised by wolves or Genie how much nature taught them

[Basra-]

[Lillaahiya]

Predestination vs determinism vs fatalism time!

[SANDIEGUY]

Fact: you are in control of your life and have free will, but Allah already knows what you will choose in life. The decision is up to you. Now, if you wanna talk about worldly factors that influence your decision making then that's another story.

[Twist]

I don't know why Basra buurtoy & Lillaahiya cajuuso ruined what would have otherwise been great discussion!

You need people like Alpha, Anarchist & blitzkrieg etc to take part in such profound topic.

[Lillaahiya]

Badownimadaada ayaa soo baxay.

[Twist]

Badow ku dar-dar! Why aad inanka topic-giisa uga wastay, balaayo yahey?

[Lillaahiya]

I honestly didn't. I condensed his whole topic in a few words Hence why I called you a badow.

Intaad dad kale yeedhisid, ma ka qeyb gashid sheekada Ma fish maskax

[CilmiDoone]

Badow ku dar-dar! Why aad inanka topic-giisa uga wastay, balaayo yahey?

You see what they did, 2 saqjaans found me

[Twist]

Haddee anigu FOB-nimadeyda waan qirsanahay oo English-kaa waaweyn ee wax lagu kala faaqido tabar uma hayo, unlike you who denies to be dhaqan-celis.

[Alto]

Do we actively shape our own lives or are our lives shaped by greater actors and forces than ourselves. Is it even possible to carve our your own route or do we subconsciously just follow the routes we see before us in the society we find ourselves in? Do we form and actively mould our own characters or are we and will we be who we are? Beyond primary and secondary socialisation, at what point do we control our own life choices? Is it possible to de-socialise the things to which you have been socialised?

So many questions and so little answers. Whoa

Our life goes through stages. In the first stages, from birth to adulthood, we don't have much influence but follow and grow up in an environment that was set up for us by fate/destiny. Our parents shape our religion, views of the world, ettiquettes, etc. We don't think on our own just yet at that stage though the ground-work for doing that is instilled. Once into adulthood, and provided with opportunities, we shape our lives and determine the course it takes. Whether our choices turn out to be good or bad depends on what the choices we made are. We are outside the influence of others who would decide for us(parents/guardians/society) at that stage.

Socialised as in indoctrinated? If that is what you mean with the word socialisation, then you can de-indoctrinate yourself and give up the norms that are bad taught to you by your society when you were very impressionable.


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Where are the boundaries of thought which we should not pass. Where does contemplation and pondering end and insanity begin. What is sane and what is insane, and who decides.

Human thought has no bounderies. We think, we wonder, we question, we seek satisfactory answers, we are curious by nature. What is sane is what majority of human beings see as normal across cultures, actions agreed upon, practices that do not seem instinctively wrong. The insane is what people see as upnormal behaviour that can't be explained. If you walk naked in the main square market with a knive, people will question your cognitive abilities, to them, you are either drunk, crazy or stupid and need to be removed from the square for other people's safety. Sanity and Insanity are both defined by the senses of human beings. If an action/behavior seems to be outside the norm, people will question the soundness of that behaviour/Action. Killing innocent children, self-mutilation, etc are examples of actions that draw the verdict of insanity to them. If you meant to ask how far can we question what we see as a reality, and whether we exist or not, then that is a different argument unto itself. I am not sure why you doubt whether you exist or not. I felt my hand, heard the sound of the keystrokes as I typed this reply to you, I can discern the colours of the screen, am making my thoughts streamlined(trying to anyway), so i am sure I exist and tangible as a solid body with a mind and senses.