Great developments across Somalia, and our enemy is burning

[ZubeirAwal]

You seem to have a problem with my Arabness , i have no problem with youre nativeness lets give it a rest son of oromo. Longlive the Arabs where every they are in Africa and in Arabia and long live the glory of islam and may allah bless the souls of our grandfathers Sheikh isxaaq ibn Ahmed al ridawi Yusuf al baqdadi, Yaxya al suufi , Imam jacfar al zaaki Imam cali zeynal cabuudin imam Muhammad al baqir Hassan al caskari al saaqir and imam hassan al caskari and Imam Hussein And Imam Ali abu talib and our great grand mother Fatima ibn Muhammad al rasuul. And may the blessings of our beloved prophet fall up on his children and his grand children Allahu akbar.

Allahu akbar, a great future awaits in our lands.

[Khalid Ali]

Abuubar subeer there is no ahli bait DNA they carry different type of haplogroups the one in morocco syria iran iraq jordan Somaliland uae we need to get the DNA of prophet ibrahim to know how it all works but even that there were many assiyrians who adopted judaism so it wont make sense. Thats not important the afro hashimites in the horn know who they are they dont have to listen to European anthropologist who claim people in the horn are descendants of a biblical kush who we know little about and who he was lool. and this based believes people are not even descendants of adam and xawa but we come from monkeys according to him
and we are evolved species crazy stuff i wonder how we will evolve in 1000 years looooool

[grandpakhalif]

Based stop with the wild talk. There are more then a million of us and less then 50 took tests, and
if sheikh isaaq was a myth , then so was the prophet because the logic u are using cannot apply to to muslims solely because somalis and arabs have oral tradition and we know more enough then for a yahud to come and test my blood. And shut up with the multi universes and that hearsay talk, there was only one prophet muhammad, and he was muhammad ibnu abdilaahi ibnu abdalmuttalib ibnu hashim.

What do you say about the French anthropologist who cited the Habar Awal as the true children of Maxamad Bucur Bucayr? Do you disclaim these facts?

Abtirsi of Habr Awaleen

1.Geedi
2.Maxamed(Bucur Bucayr)
3.Xaniif
4.Habr Awaleen
5.Subeer
6.Muse



Historical fact
Location fact
Event fact
Connotation fact and similarity
Conclusion:


Historical/ location and even Facts:
“The story goes that when sheakh ISSAQ first settled near his eventual place of burial in the northern Somaliland region, he was confronted a Yibir King known as Bu'ur Ba'ayer a local Yibir leader who ruled the territory . The two leaders then decided to settle the issue of legitimacy between them via religous war . Barkhadle challenged the Yibir king .This battle took place an area situated some 20 miles north of the regional capital of Hargeisa. this radical islamic sheekh successfully accomplished this task to take over the kingdom from Bu'ur Ba'ayer .”

Now in the above facts you are able to cleary see the fact that the battle took at the heart of habar awal deegaan.
20 miles north of hargeisa is a place between hargeisa and berbera.
Who lives in that area you will ask?
Well it goes like this:

“The yibir which somes are kown the aweeleen people are actually the original inhabitant of Somaliland. A pre-historic somalis who ruled the land for a very long time until the introduction of Islam in Somaliland around the 13th century. The original king who ruled the land was known as Mohammed Bin Haniif also know as ( Bucur bacayr), He was a doctor, herbalist an astrologer who predicted natural disasters. During his dynasty, he conducted wedding ceromonies as a preist and kept Somali women in his castle for a week before releasing them to their husbands. “

An other fact Bucur bacayr used to keep for seven days all the women at that time where he used to rule in other word all the women in hargeisa and surounding area.
In this captivity bucur bacayr father up and above 100s or thousands of illegitimate kids aka furuuq.

Now djibsomali is asking what is the relation of Sheikh isaaq in this history and in the eventual fact.
And what is the links between habar awal and sheikh issaq and plus the area of hargeisa north west of Somalia??
Now lets have a look at the historical facts about this!!

First sheikh issaaq:
The fact is that sheikh issaaq existed is in all the papers but the question how did he come up in the picture?
The sheikh arrived in the land of north west of Somalia AKA hargeisa area for a mission.
The mission is clear in the historical facts and books written. He came to redress the ways of the inhabitant of hargeisa area in accordance to ISLAM.
And he came at the advanced age of 85 years . First to defeat the king and secondly to redress their ways. If an old and frail man of 85 years who did not have any kids until this age then we can conclude that it is impossible that he will no longer have kids bear in mind the average age at that time was 40 years old. Sheikh issaq is more than the double of the average age and not capable of having any kids
Here is the proof of his age:



in ENGLISH FIRST: Having left Harar, Sheek Isaaq approached the northern coast of Somalia has Makaan. He planted his spear into the ground ..........
From makaan, he went to Maydh, or has he reached the age of 85 years ...... )

FACTS: HE IS TOO OLD TO HAVE KIDS AND NEVER HAD ANY KIDS BEFORE HAND

In the following passage which I have translated in ENGLISH for your convenience and you lot are able to check the accuracy of the translation with google translate tools.
Will clearly demonstrate who sheikh issaq was against it.
It says:

“He (sheikh issaq) however met the hostility of IIDOOR, a population who "knew nothing of God or the Prophet" and who, according to different versions of the legend, were either of the Oromo, which are known, though very weak, they occupied yet the region of Hargeisa twelfth century, or are Dir “
When SHEIKH ISSAQ succumbed and killed bucur bacayr the local population which are called IIDOOR revolted on him and specially all the women revolted on him because bucur bacayr was first their king and secondly the one who deflowered them and whom they all had their first born.
NOW IS THERE ANY DOUBT WHO THE IIDOOR ARE?
IF DJIBSOMALI ASK WHO ARE THE IIDOOR YOU WILL ALL POINT OUT TO THE POPULATION OF NORTH WEST OF SOMALIA.

Now the fact is iidoor and sheikh issaq are 2 different entities in fact iidoor tried to kill sheikh issaaq because he killed their king and father "his highness bucur bacayr".

Now the final puzzle?
Why is the habar awal are called habar awal??
first let us kill some rubbish and delusional made up idea of habar awal being the only child of a woman who died and whose sheikh issaq took over and nurtured him.
Although it does not make any sense but just for the fun of killing the idea here is the exposee of djibsomali.
habar awal was not the only child but was the brother from the same mum as Ayuub.
PROOF:
And they are not habar Magaado nor Isaaq.



Translated for you:
"But Habar Awal them-selves do derive their name from the Arabic Awwal, "formerly" Al Awwal, "the first" in order to avail themselves of their precedence over other Issaq clan"
In other words the kids of BUCUR BACAYR.

It is even mention in the following passage that musse the grand childs accepting the dia of his great father bucur bacayr.
Becaue suber who was part of the aweleen died prematurely musse (father of sacad musseh and isse musseh) his child accepted the dia of his great father bucur bacayr.
WALLAHI THIS IS THE KILLER AND I LEFT IT TO BE LAST PART OF THIS WRITING
WALLAHI CHECK IT UP!! IT IS THE CULMUNITATION ,THE CLIMAX , THE PINNACLE OF THIS WRITING.
Remember how I have told you that Ayuub and habar awal were from the same mother??? Not magaado??
Remember that??
Remember how I have proved how they became the last people to enter the union?
It is because Ayuub and habar awal were the true decedent of bucur bacayr and it is after they have accepted the DIA OF THEIR FATHER they have joined the union
And here is the proof: FIRST IN ENGLISH:



Sheikh issaq asked the magician's descendants (jaama, anjid, geedi, Ayuub and Muusa), if they prefer to receive immediately the blood money for killing their father, or rather that they wanted their debt is owed by Somalia forever. their choice fell on the second option.
Ayuub and mussa suber (aweleen) . mussa father of sacaad mussa and isseh mussa because suber passed away with only having one child AKA mussa.

Conclusion:
1st Iidoor and sheikh issaq are two different identity. IIdoor existed before the old man and still exist today in hargeisa and surounding
2nd: Idoor fougth again sheikh issaaq teaching and revolted against the killing of their king bucur bacayr
3rd: aweeleen are the people who joined and signed the treaty with the xeerti sheikh issaaq
4th : aweeleen and ayuub were from the same family as ayuub signed the treaty of bucur bacayr DIA paying while musse (father of cissa muuser and sacaad) soon of suber signed on behalf of his father who passed away.

[Murax]

Abuubar subeer the vast majority of the Somalis hate the afro hashimite people , especially the descendants of oromo waaqist and their fake patriarch the shoe stealer from hadramout. But keep you're head up allah has promised us victory against them our destiny is written . Allah tests the Ahlu bait every time he tested their strength their imaan in kufa in the 7th century and he is doing that with us. Living in a hostile region with Galla madows orthodox Christians. He tested the iman and the strength of our people in the 80s when were facing the Kafir regime of Afweyne. We are being prepared for a big task again Our fore fathers were the defenders of the faith both the one that came to Somaliland and when they were in Hijaaz and Samara. So you should not care what people write.

[ZubeirAwal]

Based your logic implies as such, sheikh isaaq existed and has been written in preserved manuscripts, he uas today a progeny who hail from ahlul bayt, you base your analysis of dna based on results on less than 1% of the isaaq populois, your very voice in the matter is a shame. The prophet is taught to us orally and in a few books, some of the gaalo claim he didn't exist because of "dna" problems. Take your haplogroup and shove it up your butt!

[GeoSeven]

Abuubar subeer the vast majority of the Somalis hate the afro hashimite people , especially the descendants of oromo waaqist and their fake patriarch the shoe stealer from hadramout. But keep you're head up allah has promised us victory against them our destiny is written ..

La xalwa don't bring Allah's blessed name in your petty tribal insults. kulaha allah promised victory against the darod. What a blasphemous statement indeed.

[Tanker]

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ISSAQ OR SOMALILAND

[ZubeirAwal]

Gpk you should know better. The other qabils that live by the HA were the ones who said as such to the gaal, there is no evidence to back their claims but this rumour, abdulrahman (awal) was born after xaniif and he was in maydh so how can he bucur bacayr?


Tanker farta isgeli, somaliya iyo waxad tahay was

[grandpakhalif]

Based your logic implies as such, sheikh isaaq existed and has been written in preserved manuscripts, he uas today a progeny who hail from ahlul bayt, you base your analysis of dna based on results on less than 1% of the isaaq populois, your very voice in the matter is a shame. The prophet is taught to us orally and in a few books, some of the gaalo claim he didn't exist because of "dna" problems. Take your haplogroup and shove it up your butt!

But your are not Sheikh Isxaaq your clan comes from Maxamad Xaniif aka Bucur Bucayr the Pagan king of Somaliland.

[Based]

Abuubar subeer there is no ahli bait DNA they carry different type of haplogroups the one in morocco syria iran iraq jordan Somaliland uae we need to get the DNA of prophet ibrahim to know how it all works

So, you're saying that despite the different haplogroups carried by all these folks shows they're all nuts, you're still sticking to your guns even though your DNA almost literally screams "THE HORN OF AFRICA!"?

Thats not important the afro hashimites in the horn know who they are

Because flimsy founding myths > science and common sense.

they dont have to listen to European anthropologist who claim people in the horn are descendants of a biblical kush who we know little about and who he was lool

What anthropologists this century claim Horn Africans descend from a mythological character?

this based believes people are not even descendants of adam and xawa but we come from monkeys according to him
and we are evolved species crazy stuff i wonder how we will evolve in 1000 years looooool

Yes, science is crazy but bronze age stories told around the camp fire while looking for water are not.

btw, I apologize to op for hijacking the thread. This isn't a qabiil thread, take that shit to the clan section

[ZubeirAwal]

He was killed by sheikh isxaaq and hence today isaaqs pay tax for every child they have to the yibir, abdulrahman awwal was born in sanaag away from galbeed where xaniif lived say what u wanna say . Ana min saadatul quraish!

[Khalid Ali]

The french guy doesn't even know what he is on about he states that ayub is the son of awal , when ayub was the oldest son of Sheikh isxaaq how does that work Habar awal were new comers to hargeysa matter infact there was no hargeysa there was herer ceelka herer, and it was the throne of the ciidagale in the 16 century habar awal migrated to berbera around 500 years ago. And the name iidoor is very recent 18 century when the kabadhe iidoor was a merchant particularly habar awal So you should know the history Bucur bacayr was killed by Yusuf al baqdadi and sheikh isxaaq at a time Awal was not even born Sheikh isxaaq capital was mait thats where we trace our ancestry to. We came to hargeysa very recent around the time of Axmed guray.

[ZubeirAwal]

Based your an ass see yourself out you'll never turn me away from my tradition.

[Based]

Your tradition is as ridiculous as the turbaned nigger in your avatar masquerading as an Arab.

[grandpakhalif]

Your tradition is as ridiculous as the turbaned nigger in your avatar masquerading as an Arab.