Hiiraan governor accepts the naming of new admin by the FG

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Hiiraan governor accepts the naming of new admin by the FG

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C/fataax Xasan Afrax oo aqbalay isbedelka lagu sameynayo maamulkiisa

http://www.jowhar.com/?p=1113

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Bascially the government will name a new administration for Hiiraan anytime now and C/Fataax has promised to step down if it comes to that. He was in Muqdisho for some time now holding talks with the PM and President discussing issues especially about the division of Hiiraan into two regions. The government will name a new temporary 6 month admin for the state and after the 6 month deadline, the people will elect their own leaders, no is jiidjiid and buuq, nice and simple. I was never a fan of this Hiiraan admin but it looks like the young C/Fatah has the sense and foresight to go quietly. Hiiraan will be an example for the drama filled regions in Somalia. This send the message that the federal government will directly be involved with the formation of regional states. Also, the bullshit lies about Hassan Sheekh allowing Hiiraan to form its own maamul and denying the people of Kismayo to do the same will end right now :som: :som: :up:
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Sxb, xawaadle wiilkodu wuxuu soo go´aamiyaba way ku qancayaan.
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Ina aadan, the interior minister who will spearhead the formation of maamuls is HG, even though he was born and raised in B/Weyne. It takes a lot patience for a lot of Reer Hiiraan to to invlove him in internal issues. Everyone has to compromise their qabiil differences otherwise meesha wax ka soconaya ma jiro

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War kaas ma kawadin. Maxaweyne Xassan Sheekh ban ka wadaa.
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good news.
Horta reer hiraan waa pro-government markasta. Sharif iyo Doladan ba meel sifiican looga taageerey hiraan kaliya waaye. Si kastaba ha ahaatee hiraan supports more hassan sheekh. Im glad that hiraan will be the first gobol to welcome the change.
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If Xawaadle cannot support xassan gurguurte, Who else will? This is their daughter's son.
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Even though Xawaadle is basically his kin, more closer to him than his lineage which is abgaal, but Hassan needs to remember that he was not elected by not Hawaadle or Abgaal..The whole vote he got from Hawiye in general was 7....

It is good to hear that Hiiraan has accepted a governer named by the government...But what happened to the constitution? What happened to Federal System?

If they think they can play a game and say we elected a governer for Hiiraan so we will elect a governer for other states that is not going to happen...Central government is why all the Somali regions were not developed at all and this needs not to happen again.

But one thing Somalis need to understand all is; peace is the basis of a nation...
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Abdirahman Farah Laqanyo is the next governor of Hiran. ex-NSS official...
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kambuli wrote:Even though Xawaadle is basically his kin, more closer to him than his lineage which is abgaal, but Hassan needs to remember that he was not elected by not Hawaadle or Abgaal..The whole vote he got from Hawiye in general was 7....

It is good to hear that Hiiraan has accepted a governer named by the government...But what happened to the constitution? What happened to Federal System?

If they think they can play a game and say we elected a governer for Hiiraan so we will elect a governer for other states that is not going to happen...Central government is why all the Somali regions were not developed at all and this needs not to happen again.

But one thing Somalis need to understand all is; peace is the basis of a nation...
Under the very constitution, only Puntland qualifies a federal state. We are not going back to the failed federal model: Puntland iyo Somalida kale. The constitution has to be revisited again and the federal requirements on forming a federal state have to be changed. There will need to be a clarification on which regional map to use: the 18 or the 9 from independence. Some new gobols may need to be created. Why is it that Hiiraan which has 4 times the population of Mudug, Nugaal and Baari have less representation in the federal system ?

Secondly, Garguurte is naming these governors to become temporary administrators of these newly liberated areas while the situation stabilizes. To form federal states now is premature when AS are still in large parts of these very gobols and the clans that supported the Ethiopian/AMISOM are still uneasy with the clans that support AS. In interim, we need direct federal control until Shabab is defeated and there can be grassroots peace and reconciliation talks. To form a mamuul goboleed now in Hiiraan makes no sense because Al Shabab runs more than 1/2 the area and there has been no genuine reconciliation between the clans who were for or against AS.

The same can be said for Jubbada hoose, Dhexe, Bay (AmIsom just went into Bur Hakaba), Bakool, Galgaduud, 1/4 of Mudug, Gedo.


Personally, I believe that this mamuul goboleed business is fitna. We are not politically mature to implement federalism. Even look at the existing mamuul goboleeds, they are bastions of corruption, teeming with foreign agents and don't behave like federal states like say Virginia but want to behave like separate countries. I do believe that there is a need for some sort of autonomous rule that is limited to: judiciary, policing, education, health, and development but not the current federal model which these states want to do foreign relations, import weapons, sign agreements with foreign countries, print Somali shillings etc.
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split Hiiraan into two regions? I don't know if that's really a viable plan, I mean do they intend on breaking all the major cities into East/West Berlin style seperate administrations too?

Why can't Xawaadle and Mudulood just share power like good brothers
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James Dahl wrote:split Hiiraan into two regions? I don't know if that's really a viable plan, I mean do they intend on breaking all the major cities into East/West Berlin style seperate administrations too?

Why can't Xawaadle and Mudulood just share power like good brothers
Actually, Mudulood do not leave in Hiiraan. Gaaljecel and baadicade Leave over there as well.
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kambuli wrote:Even though Xawaadle is basically his kin, more closer to him than his lineage which is abgaal, but Hassan needs to remember that he was not elected by not Hawaadle or Abgaal..The whole vote he got from Hawiye in general was 7....

It is good to hear that Hiiraan has accepted a governer named by the government...But what happened to the constitution? What happened to Federal System?

If they think they can play a game and say we elected a governer for Hiiraan so we will elect a governer for other states that is not going to happen...Central government is why all the Somali regions were not developed at all and this needs not to happen again.

But one thing Somalis need to understand all is; peace is the basis of a nation...
Eedo Kambuli,

If we Enforce the Federal system, The Somali people who leave in galgaduud and Mudug would not have a system of governance. A state needs 2 plus fully occupied province to be eligible. Can you imagine The entire Murusade, habargidir, mareexaan without a state roaming around? That would be the day we would turn somalia upset down. reer galgaduud do not know how to share anything with anybody. We either get a state or we don't. Mahaas aan iska fadhaynaah and Central somalia would be lawless unless the constitution changed.
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Minneapolis Mayor wrote:
James Dahl wrote:split Hiiraan into two regions? I don't know if that's really a viable plan, I mean do they intend on breaking all the major cities into East/West Berlin style seperate administrations too?

Why can't Xawaadle and Mudulood just share power like good brothers
Actually, Mudulood do not leave in Hiiraan. Gaaljecel and baadicade Leave over there as well.
Ujejeen is Ciise Mudulood, though you're right Baadicade and Gaaljecel are equally powerful influences in Hiiraan, Hiiraan is too diverse to be split up evenly or given to one clan or even two clans. The clans that call Hiiraan home need to learn to live together without one trying to seize power over all the others.

Hiiraan is almost like the "Game of Thrones", everybody trying to take over, whoever is in power everybody else allying against them.
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Minneapolis,

What about the HG of Mataban district ?
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