The true Black Hawk Down: To MAD MAC

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[Kamal35]

AbsiWahab252: Guy, you always sounded to me like a really good informed guy. I even thought you were there when the whole thing took place. You, like Mad Mac, are bringing here first hand information. Once I asked you if you were there when the battle took place, you told me that you weren't there, but you have a lot of info about Xamar, Somalia and the battle. Are you, by any chance, a journalist, an historian? If so, please, bring here the other side of the story. I have just a small part of it. But it would be great a good discussion between Mad Mac and you about what really happened there. I'm agree with Mad Mac in a lot of points, but I also think that there's some lack of information for of all us to have the great picture: A Somali friend, a girl, told me about the brutality of the Americans in this single operation of 3 october, 1993. Soldiers on humvees with their faces covered by white handkerchiefs, shooting at everything.

>>Some American officials explained to me that covering their faces was a common thing in order to avoid the dust of the road, mainly when soldiers were carrying a 50 or something gun at the top of the humvee. But Somali people understood this as futuristic soldiers, shooting at everything, invading their country, so they started a kind of counter-offensive.

>>I respect Mad Mac: He was there and I wasn't there. You sound as though you were there too. If so, it would be really enlightening for us, civilians, what was your point of view and all that, and what happened there from a Somali point of view. I saw the documentary "The true story of Black Hawk Down" and Somalis seem to be really fanatic people. And not because the documentary is filmed by Western people: But because Somalis speak from themselves: You can see a militia soldier saying: "If I see a white guy, I kill him. It's our war, and nobody has the right to come here: If I see a stranger, I kill him". Things like this.

But I have this witness, a 19 years old girl who found herself in the middle of a battle. She spoke to me about the cruelty in the middle of a battle: humvees crossing on an man on his crutches, yankees singing "Yippie". Guys on white handkerchiefs...

Have you the version of the other side?

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Kamal
Battles are cruel things. Violent, remorseless, relentless. Make no mistake, they ain't pretty.