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- 1nemansquad
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GIVE
Give to someone in need who perhaps too proud to ask or not expecting. Best feeling in the world. Give it to someone who didn't ask anything of you.
Get into the habit, from here on Ramadan.
Get into the habit, from here on Ramadan.
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Re: GIVE
some people don't agree:
"What is the moral code of altruism? The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value."
"Why is it moral to serve the happiness of others, but not your own? If enjoyment is a value, why is it moral when experienced by others, but immoral when experienced by you? If the sensation of eating a cake is a value, why is it an immoral indulgence in your stomach, but a moral goal for you to achieve in the stomach of others? Why is it immoral for you to desire, but moral for others to do so? Why is it immoral to produce a value and keep it, but moral to give it away? And if it is not moral for you to keep a value, why is it moral for others to accept it? If you are selfless and virtuous when you give it, are they not selfish and vicious when they take it? Does virtue consist of serving vice? Is the moral purpose of those who are good, self-immolation for the sake of those who are evil?"
"The social system based on and consonant with the altruist morality—with the code of self-sacrifice—is socialism, in all or any of its variants: fascism, Nazism, communism. All of them treat man as a sacrificial animal to be immolated for the benefit of the group, the tribe, the society, the state. Soviet Russia is the ultimate result, the final product, the full, consistent embodiment of the altruist morality in practice; it represents the only way that that morality can ever be practiced."
--Ayn Rand
- 1nemansquad
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Re: GIVE
I was talking to a school friend last night, proud sister highly educated with dentist degree. She recently moved to a new state and still isn't able to find a job right. We were talking generally and I know if you don't have a regular income coming in, no matter how much your savings you will run out. I casually asked kaftan ahaan. Why she don't call no more, is it because you can't pay your phone bills, caught her off guard and she casually responds yeah man I'm broke. From there on I knew what I had to do, she resisted at first but eventually she accepted.
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Re: GIVE
Doing a good deed always makes you feel amazing..
Luckily your mate opened up to you.. Some people would never admit it even if they were going hungry.. I know I wouldn't.. So how could/would you help those types of people..?
Luckily your mate opened up to you.. Some people would never admit it even if they were going hungry.. I know I wouldn't.. So how could/would you help those types of people..?
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Re: GIVE
I'm exactly the way you described yourself, I wouldn't ask for help at all. I'm pretty good at caring for others though, Its your salvation (i was told). How you can help people like that, I don't know but persistence being able to read situations can help and gaining the trust of the person your trying to help.WestLdnShawty wrote:Doing a good deed always makes you feel amazing..
Luckily your mate opened up to you.. Some people would never admit it even if they were going hungry.. I know I wouldn't.. So how could/would you help those types of people..?
Re: GIVE
WestLdnShawty wrote:Doing a good deed always makes you feel amazing..
Luckily your mate opened up to you.. Some people would never admit it even if they were going hungry.. I know I wouldn't.. So how could/would you help those types of people..?
Drop anonymously into their purse if you have access to it, or somewhere you know they can find what you leave behind, call them afterwards and let them know they have to accept the gift you dropped, or the friendship/sisterhood is over. Remind them how you would have accepted the same from them in times of need.
Some people stay quite and don't ask for help, those are the ones who deserve the most help. They are dignified people but would appreciate a friend or a brother who reads their situation and helps them without them asking for the help.
1nemansquad
You did great man. Helping that girl. It is the little things that make life worth living.
Re: GIVE
Masha allah to u folks.
It is rare chance.
The only time anything close to it worked was tricking someone i knew would never accept ``charity''. What i did end up doing was putting aside what i named emergency fund. She could use it and replace when she could afford.
It is still going strong.
It is rare chance.
The only time anything close to it worked was tricking someone i knew would never accept ``charity''. What i did end up doing was putting aside what i named emergency fund. She could use it and replace when she could afford.
It is still going strong.
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Re: GIVE
Thanks for the reply 1nemansquad & Alto
That sounds like a brilliant way of doing it Tuushi..
That sounds like a brilliant way of doing it Tuushi..
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Re: GIVE
These people always believe that they are bothering you if they ask, and they would prefer not ask despite their need for help. I have also noticed that they are so appreciative and very grateful at all times. They do deserve the most help indeed. Like you said, sometimes helping them anonymously would be good.Alto wrote: Some people stay quite and don't ask for help, those are the ones who deserve the most help. They are dignified people but would appreciate a friend or a brother who reads their situation and helps them without them asking for the help.
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Re: GIVE
excellent observation both of youDeeqaDagan wrote:These people always believe that they are bothering you if they ask, and they would prefer not ask despite their need for help. I have also noticed that they are so appreciative and very grateful at all times. They do deserve the most help indeed. Like you said, sometimes helping them anonymously would be good.Alto wrote: Some people stay quite and don't ask for help, those are the ones who deserve the most help. They are dignified people but would appreciate a friend or a brother who reads their situation and helps them without them asking for the help.
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