Drinking elephants milk

[zingii]

An old timer who is a friend of a relative of mine was telling a story about his youth and how things were back in the days.
He told us (me plus relative of mine) about an encouter he had with an elephant as he was traveling in no mans land by himself.
If i do remember correctly, i think he said that the only thing he had with him was a loaded gun and the clothes on his back.
Mid way his journey, he came accross an elephant (s) grazing on plants.
He remembers how beautyful and elegant this creature was.
Anyhow, he got within range and shot that elegant and beautiful creature.
Upon shooting it, he quickly stood over it and drank its milk.




HE DIDN'T GET INTO DETAIL AS TO HOW HE DRANK THE MILK.
Whether he suckled the milk glands via mouth or milked it by hand then drank them.


IS ELEPHANT MEAT AND MILK EVEN ALLOWED?

[AbdiJohnson]

Nigga that's nasty

I am,

Abdi "Dumbo's milkshake will not bring me to the yard" Johnson

[saacJabshee]

I could be wrong brother. I think however to answer question anything that eats meat you are not allowed to eat/drink. an elephant doesnt doesnt eat meat.

if am wrong please correct

still though to waste n elephant i think was uncalled for

[zingii]

I think the elephant had it coming since the guy was hungry and thursty enough to kill it.
Propably his survivor's instict kicked in that had him do a number on that creature.

[LetsCookBreakfast]

In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

One of the principles in the Hanafi School concerning animal consumption is that all terrestrial predatory fanged animals are considered haram, such as a lion, cheetah, tiger, leopard, wolf, fox, dog, cat, etc.

The definition given by the author of the renowned Hanafi Fiqh masterpiece, al-Hidaya, for a predatory animal is as follows:

“A predator is every animal that would normally prey, quarry, wound, kill and transgress on other animals (or humans).” (al-Hidaya, 2/440)

Based on this, the author of al-Hidaya then goes on to say:

“An elephant is a fanged animal; hence, it will be prohibitively disliked (makruh) to consume its meat.” (ibid)

Imam al-Haskafi (Allah have mercy on him), whilst mentioning the list of haram animals, states that it is haram to eat the meat of an elephant. (See: Radd al-Muhtar ala-al-Durr al-Mukhtar, 6/306)

Thus, in conclusion, indeed an elephant is different from other predatory animals in that it does not prey and live on other animals like a lion and other similar animals do. However, due to the fact that an elephant can harm, kill and attack other animals, the Hanafi fuqaha considered it to be from amongst the predatory animals; hence, its meat being unlawful for consumption.

Allah knows best

[zingii]

How about the milk?

[LetsCookBreakfast]

Brother, if the meat is haram, then the milk is as well.

[gurey25]

it definatley unhealthy, too much fat and all the wrong levels of nutrients.

[Tuushi]

He milked a dead elephant? Bad ass dheh.

[Titanium]

Roosters can harm, kill and attack by engaging in cock fights yet Muslims still eat them.

[AgentOfChaos]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot?

[BlackVelvet]

Roosters can harm, kill and attack by engaging in cock fights yet Muslims still eat them.

Same could be said for bulls etc I wonder if there are any animals where the males don't fight insects aside

[Titanium]

Roosters can harm, kill and attack by engaging in cock fights yet Muslims still eat them.

Same could be said for bulls etc I wonder if there are any animals where the males don't fight insects aside

He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Quran, 2:173

I guess everything else is fine

[LetsCookBreakfast]

Again, those who lack 'ilm try to make judgements on the deen.

Animals whose meat is Halal:

Camel
Goat
Sheep
Buffalo
Stag
Rabbit
Cow (including mountain cow)
Wild-ass (The prohibition in the Hadith is of domesticated donkeys)
Fish (of all types, including prawns according to those who consider prawns to be a form of fish. Others however, don�t permit its consumption, for they don�t consider prawns to be from the fish family. For details, see an earlier post).
Deer/Antelope/Gazelle
Duck
Heron (grey or white wading bird with long neck and long legs and (usually) long bill).
Nightingale
Quail
Parrot
Francolin
Locust
Partridge (heavy-bodied small-winged South American game bird)
Lark (North American yellow-breasted songbirds)
Sparrow
Goose
Ostrich
Dove
Pigeon
Stork
Rooster
Chicken
Peacock
Starling
Hoopoe (any of several crested Old World birds with a slender down-curving bill, known in Arabic as Hudhud- that was sent by Sayyiduna Suleyman (peace be upon him).

Animals whose meat is Haram:

Wolf
Hyena
Cat
Monkey
Scorpion
Leopard
Tiger
Cheetah
Lion
Jerboa
Bear
Swine/pig
Squirrel
Hedgehog
Snake
Tortoise/Turtle
Dog
Crab
Jackal
Donkey (domesticated)
Lizard (The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) forbade the eating of a Lizard. Recorded by Imam Abu Dawud in his Sunan from Abd al-Rahman ibn Shibl (Allah be pleased with him. Hadith no: 3790)
Fox
Crocodile
Weasel
Elephant (Radd al-Muhtar, 6/306)
Falcon
Hawk
Kite
Bat
Vulture
Mouse
Rat
All insects, such as a Mosquito, Fly, Wasp, Spider, Beetle, etc.

Allah knows best.

[zingii]

Again, those who lack 'ilm try to make judgements on the deen.

Animals whose meat is Halal:

Camel
Goat
Sheep
Buffalo
Stag
Rabbit
Cow (including mountain cow)
Wild-ass (The prohibition in the Hadith is of domesticated donkeys)
Fish (of all types, including prawns according to those who consider prawns to be a form of fish. Others however, don�t permit its consumption, for they don�t consider prawns to be from the fish family. For details, see an earlier post).
Deer/Antelope/Gazelle
Duck
Heron (grey or white wading bird with long neck and long legs and (usually) long bill).
Nightingale
Quail
Parrot
Francolin
Locust
Partridge (heavy-bodied small-winged South American game bird)
Lark (North American yellow-breasted songbirds)
Sparrow
Goose
Ostrich
Dove
Pigeon
Stork
Rooster
Chicken
Peacock
Starling
Hoopoe (any of several crested Old World birds with a slender down-curving bill, known in Arabic as Hudhud- that was sent by Sayyiduna Suleyman (peace be upon him).

Animals whose meat is Haram:

Wolf
Hyena
Cat
Monkey
Scorpion
Leopard
Tiger
Cheetah
Lion
Jerboa
Bear
Swine/pig
Squirrel
Hedgehog
Snake
Tortoise/Turtle
Dog
Crab
Jackal
Donkey (domesticated)
Lizard (The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) forbade the eating of a Lizard. Recorded by Imam Abu Dawud in his Sunan from Abd al-Rahman ibn Shibl (Allah be pleased with him. Hadith no: 3790)
Fox
Crocodile
Weasel
Elephant (Radd al-Muhtar, 6/306)
Falcon
Hawk
Kite
Bat
Vulture
Mouse
Rat
All insects, such as a Mosquito, Fly, Wasp, Spider, Beetle, etc.

Allah knows best.