Kush son of Ham?? 80% of the worlds empires are his progeny

[Somali-Transporter]

The bible have been changed so we can not believe it fully, but we can take part of it. in the bible they speak about Cush the son of Ham, and ham had 4 sons, and Cush was his first. We are not the only once from Cush's progeny. the other part of Cush progeny are no longer called cushitics or the sons of cush.

Cush existed long before the DNA haplogroups that we belong to today, but he must have been the father to one of the Y-haplogroups of today.

We are the only Group WHO represent cush today, sinces we are called cushitics, the Cushitics are carriers of E-V32, the son of E-V12, and the Brother of E-V13 and both of them are the progeny of E-M78..

All the empires, Kingdoms and sultanates under E-M78.

1: Athens E-V13 Was well known for democracy, and great noble men.

2: Sparta E-V13 they perfected the Warrior culture

3: Ancient Egypt E-V12 The must admire kingdom on earth.

4: Alaxander the Great E-V13 the man WHO tried to capture the World with his sword

5: Kingdom of Kush E-V12 The pyrmids in south egypt

6: Carthag E-V65 known for there wars against Rom

7: Roman empire E-V13/E-V65 they ruled in 3 different continent from UK to syria/palestin, and to North africa and what is between for nearly 1000 years

8: Andulsia sultanate, E-V65 + one of the prophets progeny. the empire of Knowledge

9: Ottoman Empire E-V13 they ruled with iron fist the entire muslim World for 600 years

10: Axum Empire E-V12 / part of it, and still unexplored

11: Byzantine E-V13/E-V65 the majority were Greeks and balkans.

12: zagwe E-V32 cushitic speaking people WHO took control from Axum empire

13: Ajuuraan E-V32 Finally the greatest kingdom Black africa have witnessed, in terms of advancement

14: Nimrod was son of Cush and his progeny ruled after him

15: Troja E-V13 and those WHO fled the war started the Roman empire.

Warriors, great speakers, and Kings. men with pride and women equally as strong minded are born into this house of Cush.

many Great kingdoms were promised Cush son of Ham from his progeny. and the bible always describes Cush in different ways, and always mentions great kingdoms.

The progeny of Ibrahim were promised knowlegde and to be religious leaders for the World, and Cush Kingdoms.

His progenies are today found in Spain, italy, North africa, greece, macedonia, Albania, Serbia, turkey, Sudan, and Horn of Africa. they are all together 7-10 % or less of the Worlds population. so what is the chance for this small Group of people to writte history almost single handly. I believe it was God given

[DonCorleone]

we MUST RULE AGAIN

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Ham was cursed son of noa. because of Ham was cursed hes skinn turned black and hes hair nappy.. so mr HAM could not give birth of White people but only black people..

so Kush was black man and the son of first nigger mr HAM(Tyron)..

[DonCorleone]

Ham was cursed son of noa. because of Ham was cursed hes skinn turned black and hes hair nappy.. Ham the father of black people.. and Kush the first black Negro son of Ham is also for father of somalis

post proof where HAM was cursed and not CANAAN

[DR-YALAXOOW]

according the bible and even islamic source Ham was the cursed son. and Ham is the father of black people...

[Grant]

Everyone with ancestors outside of Africa are descended from the Cushites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Afr ... ern_humans

By some 70,000 years ago, a part of the bearers of mitochondrial haplogroup L3 migrated from East Africa into the Near East. The date of this first wave of "out of Africa" migration was called into question in 2011, based on the discovery of stone tools in the United Arab Emirates, indicating the presence of modern humans between 100,000 and 125,000 years ago.[4][53] New research showing slower than previously thought genetic mutations in human DNA published in 2012, indicating a revised dating for the migration of between 90,000 and 130,000 years ago.[54]

Some scientists believe that only a few people left Africa in a single migration that went on to populate the rest of the world,[55] based in the fact that only descents of L3 are found outside Africa. From that settlement, some others point to the possibility of several waves of expansion. For example, geneticist Spencer Wells says that the early travellers followed the southern coastline of Asia, crossed about 155 miles of sea, and colonized Australia by around 50,000 years ago. The Aborigines of Australia, Wells says, are the descendants of the first wave of migrations.[56]

It has been estimated that from a population of 2,000 to 5,000 individuals in Africa,[57] only a small group, possibly as few as 150 to 1,000 people, crossed the Red Sea.[58] Of all the lineages present in Africa only the female descendants of one lineage, mtDNA haplogroup L3, are found outside Africa. Had there been several migrations one would expect descendants of more than one lineage to be found outside Africa. L3's female descendants, the M and N haplogroup lineages, are found in very low frequencies in Africa (although haplogroup M1 is very ancient and diversified in North and Northeast Africa) and appear to be recent arrivals. A possible explanation is that these mutations occurred in East Africa shortly before the exodus and by the founder effect became the dominant haplogroups after the exodus from Africa. Alternatively, the mutations may have arisen shortly after the exodus from Africa.

Other scientists have proposed a Multiple Dispersal Model, in which there were two migrations out of Africa, one across the Red Sea travelling along the coastal regions to India (the Coastal Route), which would be represented by Haplogroup M. Another group of migrants with Haplogroup N followed the Nile from East Africa, heading northwards and crossing into Asia through the Sinai. This group then branched in several directions, some moving into Europe and others heading east into Asia. This hypothesis attempts to explain why Haplogroup N is predominant in Europe and why Haplogroup M is absent in Europe. Evidence of the coastal migration is hypothesized to have been destroyed by the rise in sea levels during the Holocene epoch.[11][59] Alternatively, a small European founder population that initially expressed both Haplogroup M and N could have lost Haplogroup M through random genetic drift resulting from a bottleneck (i.e. a founder effect).

Today at the Bab-el-Mandeb straits the Red Sea is about 12 miles (20 kilometres) wide, but 50,000 years ago sea levels were 70 meters lower (owing to glaciation) and the water was much narrower. Though the straits were never completely closed, there may have been islands in between which could be reached using simple rafts. Shell middens 125,000 years old have been found in Eritrea,[60] indicating the diet of early humans included seafood obtained by beachcombing.

[Somali-Transporter]

according the bible and even islamic source Ham was the cursed son. and Ham is the father of black people...

Ham was indeed, the father of the Black men.

The history about Ham in the bible is not clearly trustworthy, but parts of it can be. Because when Noah lost his garment, and became naked before his 3 sons, the only one who laugh at Him was Ham, so the legends say, that he became Black and his curse was to be enslaved, by his other Brothers, and become the lowest of the low, and their servant in this World. which actully happend in truth no Bullshit. but the funny thing is, there was not only curse, but gift as well. and the gift is the promised kingdoms to one of his sons Cush. and it actully also happend. the mediterreans are true progeny of cush. because Nimrod WHO was the son of Cush, already lived up to his gift. he was great hunter, and warrior and he was the king of Babylon.

so he himself began already the out of Africa migration and the curse did not affect him. because his gift overcame the curse of his father. and the curse were not saved from the 3 other sons, the other African carriers of E. but not Cush progeny. Never was Cush's progeny enslaved, but they themselves were the owners of the slaves. like sparta they refused to submit to the huge Persian armies. or when Rameses III stopped the sea people, in the battle of the delta, that battle was truly bad ass. Iron vs Iron

Cush progeny are not all Black, Meditrreans are not even full blooded White, you can see some kind of darkness within them. their dark hair colour shows alot of Testosterone.

the meditrreans fathered the Ancient Egyptians with a Black Woman. thats why they look mulatto race!

[Somali-Transporter]

Everyone with ancestors outside of Africa are descended from the Cushites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Afr ... ern_humans

By some 70,000 years ago, a part of the bearers of mitochondrial haplogroup L3 migrated from East Africa into the Near East. The date of this first wave of "out of Africa" migration was called into question in 2011, based on the discovery of stone tools in the United Arab Emirates, indicating the presence of modern humans between 100,000 and 125,000 years ago.[4][53] New research showing slower than previously thought genetic mutations in human DNA published in 2012, indicating a revised dating for the migration of between 90,000 and 130,000 years ago.[54]

Some scientists believe that only a few people left Africa in a single migration that went on to populate the rest of the world,[55] based in the fact that only descents of L3 are found outside Africa. From that settlement, some others point to the possibility of several waves of expansion. For example, geneticist Spencer Wells says that the early travellers followed the southern coastline of Asia, crossed about 155 miles of sea, and colonized Australia by around 50,000 years ago. The Aborigines of Australia, Wells says, are the descendants of the first wave of migrations.[56]

It has been estimated that from a population of 2,000 to 5,000 individuals in Africa,[57] only a small group, possibly as few as 150 to 1,000 people, crossed the Red Sea.[58] Of all the lineages present in Africa only the female descendants of one lineage, mtDNA haplogroup L3, are found outside Africa. Had there been several migrations one would expect descendants of more than one lineage to be found outside Africa. L3's female descendants, the M and N haplogroup lineages, are found in very low frequencies in Africa (although haplogroup M1 is very ancient and diversified in North and Northeast Africa) and appear to be recent arrivals. A possible explanation is that these mutations occurred in East Africa shortly before the exodus and by the founder effect became the dominant haplogroups after the exodus from Africa. Alternatively, the mutations may have arisen shortly after the exodus from Africa.

Other scientists have proposed a Multiple Dispersal Model, in which there were two migrations out of Africa, one across the Red Sea travelling along the coastal regions to India (the Coastal Route), which would be represented by Haplogroup M. Another group of migrants with Haplogroup N followed the Nile from East Africa, heading northwards and crossing into Asia through the Sinai. This group then branched in several directions, some moving into Europe and others heading east into Asia. This hypothesis attempts to explain why Haplogroup N is predominant in Europe and why Haplogroup M is absent in Europe. Evidence of the coastal migration is hypothesized to have been destroyed by the rise in sea levels during the Holocene epoch.[11][59] Alternatively, a small European founder population that initially expressed both Haplogroup M and N could have lost Haplogroup M through random genetic drift resulting from a bottleneck (i.e. a founder effect).

Today at the Bab-el-Mandeb straits the Red Sea is about 12 miles (20 kilometres) wide, but 50,000 years ago sea levels were 70 meters lower (owing to glaciation) and the water was much narrower. Though the straits were never completely closed, there may have been islands in between which could be reached using simple rafts. Shell middens 125,000 years old have been found in Eritrea,[60] indicating the diet of early humans included seafood obtained by beachcombing.

I do not agree with this theory because i do not believe, that we have any blood relations from the fathers side with the other Northern, Eastern and western Europeans, even the semites + asians/indians..

The only relations we have is Noah, as the same father, but the rest is simple not the same.

[Grant]

You believe what you want. Here is what Wiki has to say about Somali DNA:

'According to Y chromosome studies by Sanchez et al. (2005) and Cruciani et al. (2004), the Somalis are paternally closely related to certain Ethiopian groups, particularly Cushitic speakers:[66][67]

"The data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population − closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya − with predominant E3b1 [now "E1b1b1"] cluster lineages... and that the Somali male population has approximately 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa."[66]

Besides comprising the majority of the Y DNA in Somalis, the E1b1b1a (formerly E3b1a) haplogroup also makes up a significant proportion of the paternal DNA of Ethiopians, Sudanese, Egyptians, Berbers, North African Arabs, as well as many Mediterranean and Balkan Europeans.[67][68] The M78 subclade of E1b1b is found in about 77% of Somali males,[66] which, according to Cruciani et al. (2007), may represent the traces of an ancient migration into the Horn of Africa from Egypt/Libya.[69] After haplogroup E1b1b, the second most frequently occurring Y DNA haplogroup among Somalis is the Eurasian haplogroup T (M70),[70] which is found in slightly more than 10% of Somali males. Haplogroup T, like haplogroup E1b1b, is also typically found among populations of Northeast Africa, North Africa, the Near East and the Mediterranean.[71][72]
mtDNA

According to mtDNA studies by Holden (2005) and Richards et al. (2006), a significant proportion of the maternal lineages of Somalis consists of the M1 haplogroup,[73][74] which is common among Ethiopians and North Africans, particularly Egyptians and Algerians.[75][76] M1 is believed to have originated in Asia,[77] where its parent M clade represents the majority of mtDNA lineages[78] (particularly in India).[79] This haplogroup is also thought to possibly correlate with the Afro-Asiatic language family:[74]

"We analysed mtDNA variation in ~250 persons from Libya, Somalia, and Congo/Zambia, as representatives of the three regions of interest. Our initial results indicate a sharp cline in M1 frequencies that generally does not extend into sub-Saharan Africa. While our North and especially East African samples contained frequencies of M1 over 20%, our sub-Saharan samples consisted almost entirely of the L1 or L2 haplogroups only. In addition, there existed a significant amount of homogeneity within the M1 haplogroup. This sharp cline indicates a history of little admixture between these regions. This could imply a more recent ancestry for M1 in Africa, as older lineages are more diverse and widespread by nature, and may be an indication of a back-migration into Africa from the Middle East."[74]

A Somali schoolgirl.

Another mtDNA study indicates that:

"Somali, as a representative East African population, seem to have experienced a detectable amount of Caucasoid maternal influence... the proportion m of Caucasoid lineages in the Somali is m = 0.46 [46%]... Our results agree with the hypothesis of a maternal influence of Caucasoid lineages in East Africa, although its contribution seems to be higher than previously reported in mtDNA studies."[80]

Overall, these genetic studies conclude that Somalis and their fellow Ethiopian and Eritrean Northeast African populations represent a unique and distinct biological group on the continent:[81][82]

"The most distinct separation is between African and non-African populations. The northeastern-African -- that is, the Ethiopian and Somali -- populations are located centrally between sub-Saharan African and non-African populations... The fact that the Ethiopians and Somalis have a subset of the sub-Saharan African haplotype diversity -- and that the non-African populations have a subset of the diversity present in Ethiopians and Somalis -- makes simple-admixture models less likely; rather, these observations support the hypothesis proposed by other nuclear-genetic studies (Tishkoff et al. 1996a, 1998a, 1998b; Kidd et al. 1998) -- that populations in northeastern Africa may have diverged from those in the rest of sub-Saharan Africa early in the history of modern African populations and that a subset of this northeastern-African population migrated out of Africa and populated the rest of the globe. These conclusions are supported by recent mtDNA analysis (Quintana-Murci et al. 1999)."[82]

HLA antigens
A young Somali man.

The analysis of HLA antigens has also helped clarify the possible background of the Somali people, as the distribution of haplotype frequencies vary among population groups.[83] According to Mohamoud et al. (2006):[84]

"HLA antigens of the Somali population are not categorised as well as those of other international ethnic groups. We analysed the HLA antigens of 76 unrelated Somalis who lived in the west of England. HLA -A, -B, -C and DRB1 typing was performed by polymerase chain reaction using sequence-specific oligonucleotide probes (PCR-SSOP) at a low-intermediate resolution level. Phenotype frequency, gene frequency and haplotype frequency were used to study the relationship between Somalis and other relevant populations. The antigens with highest frequencies were HLA -A1, A2, and A30; B7, B51 and B39; Cw7, Cw16, Cw17, Cw15 and Cw18; DR 13, DR17, DR8 and DR1. HLA haplotypes with high significance and characteristics of the Somali population are B7-Cw7, B39-Cw12, B51-Cw16, B57-Cw18. The result of HLA class I and class II antigen frequencies show that the Somali population appear more similar to Arab or Caucasoid than to African populations. The results are consistent with hypothesis, supported by cultural and historical evidence, of common origin of the Somali population."[84]"

[Somali-Transporter]

that post are legit

[GIJaamac]

Ham was cursed son of noa. because of Ham was cursed hes skinn turned black and hes hair nappy.. so mr HAM could not give birth of White people but only black people..

so Kush was black man and the son of first nigger mr HAM(Tyron)..

[Insomniac]

Bible as a reference? Really?

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Crackpot theories = history?