Incredulous Justifications for FGM?

[BlackVelvet]

Hyper the article explained it very clearly and comprehensively. I get where he's coming from. At the end of the day, it should be a medical choice and a woman/young girl should be given the freedom to reach the decision on her own.

FGM is illegal morally and religiously .

I agree

[Murax]

Hyperactive,

From what I hear the major health repurcussions and difficulty comes from the Fircooniya one. The one that people say is 'Sunnah' may affect the girl's sex drive but it doesn't affect them when it comes to stuff like child birth, menstrual cycle, pain during sex, etc. The tradegy here is the one the Somalis practice is the absolute worst one possible (Fircooniya) and deen wise, it is following the way of Pharoa mushrikiin.

[Insomniac]

There are different types of FMG?

[BlackVelvet]

The one that people say is 'Sunnah' may affect the girl's sex drive

People might call it that but that is not sunnah. That is not what the allegedly weak haddith says to do.

[hargaysaay]

Hyperactive,

From what I hear the major health repurcussions and difficulty comes from the Fircooniya one. The one that people say is 'Sunnah' may affect the girl's sex drive but it doesn't affect them when it comes to stuff like child birth, menstrual cycle, pain during sex, etc. The tradegy here is the one the Somalis practice is the absolute worst one possible (Fircooniya) and deen wise, it is following the way of Pharoa mushrikiin.

Where did you get this nonsense that the Sunni way of female circumcision effects the Sex Drive .

Insomniac-the Sunni way is just making a very slight cut at the tip of the clitoris , its save and healthy .

[ElfRuler0]

There are different types of FMG?

You might have more things in common with sally than you think. All talk and zero experience when it comes to the opposite gender.


I believe there are 3 main types -there are other variations. From a prick (like testing for blood sugar) to fircoon, which basically requires the removal of the clitoris and labia, and then sewing the whole thing up.

[Hyperactive]

Hyperactive,

From what I hear the major health repurcussions and difficulty comes from the Fircooniya one. The one that people say is 'Sunnah' may affect the girl's sex drive but it doesn't affect them when it comes to stuff like child birth, menstrual cycle, pain during sex, etc. The tradegy here is the one the Somalis practice is the absolute worst one possible (Fircooniya) and deen wise, it is following the way of Pharoa mushrikiin.

murax, thank you, you and jasmine answer my question. i know the foqaha point of view but never knew , waha la goynayo to begin with. lol. and the thing is like fah's article, every one trying to explain their own way that makes sense to them and not look like so ugly to the modern culture.

here we dont know and isnt even an issue. even in official saudi majlis,they posted , basically asking public not ask in public and is totally up to parent and should be private issue! every way you look at it is just uncomfortable to them.

but we are in an age, we ask sheikhs, which leg i can put first in washroom!

is illegal in qatar. if was something so important as muslims, wouldnot ban it, not only in qatar, also kuwait, bahran. but thing is you have no control in rural areas.

right now my mom tells me, there are somali families take their kids to saudi arabia in rural places to be done by sudanis or egyptian ladies.

[SecretAgent]

Hanafis muslims called it "courtesy to the husbands" so in hanafi sect its a must

http://answering-islam.org/Sharia/fem_circumcision.html

[Insomniac]

You might have more things in common with sally than you think. All talk and zero experience when it comes to the opposite gender.


I believe there are 3 main types -there are other variations. From a prick (like testing for blood sugar) to fircoon, which basically requires the removal of the clitoris and labia, and then sewing the whole thing up.

Experience with women =/= experience with different types of FGM. That shit is messed up. Besides, everyone knows I am innocent, nice gentleman. I shouldn't have read this thread. @ the religious justifications. I thought they did it because they were savages. Smh.

@hargaysaay
Bro, why?

[Hyperactive]

is sunnah bro, in all madhabs except shafi'i. what you quote, is what we call in fiqh, mustahab. which is less important than sunnah.

[Murax]

Jasmine,

Fair enough, I didn't know. I guess the point I was making pretty much is the one Somalis have been practicing makes the alledged 'Sunnah' one look like childs play.


Hargassay,

Well, the clitoris and the friction that comes When a Guy is inside Her, is what provides the sexual pleasure for the girl right? Well if that is nonexistient or reduced, doesn't that mean less pleasure?



Hyperactive,

Yea, I can tell its something uncomfortable to talk about. This one Somali Sh from Nairobi came to the states and was asked. When the question was being asked to Him, His face changed and he seemed so uncomfortable.

[Hyperactive]

lol murax, i can imagine. and some sheikhs go so far and try to explain and so e people keep asking details , until he said; some females clitoris can grow to 3cm and that bothers a lot the husband! innallilah! there is things lakuma fogaado.lol

[Murax]

, until he said; some females clitoris can grow to 3cm and that bothers a lot the husband!

[Hyperactive]

sorry to be fair to him he said" that could bother a lot the husband "

i know no way to make it nicer but, inan been ka sheeko ma rabo.lol

[Twist]

I read a book about FGM written by a Somali woman, Raaqiya Xaaji Ducaale called 'Sisters in affliction' back in the 90's and ever since the mere thought of female circumcision horrifies me.

It wasn't long ago that I was talking to my brother & my sister-in-law, who have 3 young daughters, to never think about touching them & they assured me they wont. I hope they wont & if I ever decide to have children and I have daughters I would rather die than have them circumcised. F culture!