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Tariq Ramadan If you are not praying it doesn't mean your far from Islam.

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Not to ignite a debate sxb, ibliis was expelled from paradise because of one sujood. Imagine the case of someone who misses prayer all his life?

We all sin. Laakin salaad weligaa haka tagin.
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If you watched the video he's basically saying there's hope for every mu'min, the one who's steadfast in salah and also the one who struggles, i.e you shouldn't judge other mu'mins.

Iblis has a characteristic that every human is vunreble of, and that is arrogance, it is arrogance that led him to become cursed and banished.

His atheist servants are simmilar to him because Iblis spoke of 'logic' instead of anything else, logically, fire is stronger and a more powerful element than earth, and it is this that made iblis convinced that he is a better creation than Adam.

What is said in the video is totally different sxb.
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I like tariq he's a good modarate talks bout da issues were facin 2013 not 7 century dos rules r not meant for us
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ZubeirAwal wrote:If you watched the video he's basically saying there's hope for every mu'min, the one who's steadfast in salah and also the one who struggles, i.e you shouldn't judge other mu'mins.

Iblis has a characteristic that every human is vunreble of, and that is arrogance, it is arrogance that led him to become cursed and banished.

His atheist servants are simmilar to him because Iblis spoke of 'logic' instead of anything else, logically, fire is stronger and a more powerful element than earth, and it is this that made iblis convinced that he is a better creation than Adam.

What is said in the video is totally different sxb.
Still, ibliis had tawxiid. His act of disobedience to Allah is what cursed him. How is the human who refuses to pray any different?
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It is not a refusal of prayer, anyone who intends to refuse salah in it's enteriety is deprived of guidance and needs it, what Tariq is talking about is those who have a niyya to become good muslims but are struggling to do so, they eventually become the muslim they always wanted to be.
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I understand that it may be a struggle, but Salah is one of the main things that defines a Muslim. Without Salah what else do u have? Allah knows best
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Marques wrote:Not to ignite a debate sxb, ibliis was expelled from paradise because of one sujood. Imagine the case of someone who misses prayer all his life?

We all sin. Laakin salaad weligaa haka tagin.

You are right, but also remember that humans can ask forgiveness and turn around their lives whereas its too late for ibliis.
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