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Casanova25 wrote:called Somaliland? how did it start and where are the neighbours, + other somalis..

a side from Qabiil.. this thread has nothing to do with qabiil at all.. is it only me or all of u can see this evil happening right now in somalia..

1. one tribe wants to take more then her own land and make a new country out of it and sadly that country is within somalia

2. they have even become so cocky that they believe the neighbour tribes lands also do belongs to them and they have created a new flag for it..

seriosly WTF is going on.. can some one explain?

this is mutiny against somalia and not only 1 qabiil, and we need to show our somalinimo against this sad case.. somalia have existed long before this sad civil war and somalia will exist many years to come in glory after this civil war.. but what you can't do is cut the land in half with almost 60% of not your land by heritage.. its not only a crime against somalia but against humanity.. you can have what is yours but there is limits..
We can do it because we can

What are you going to do about it?

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We Somalilanders have totally extirpated the so called Somali statehood myth, from its very foundation and exposed it to all Somalis the farce it was.
First we removed the so called Mad mullah from the so called Somali mythology statehood that he was fighting for Somali nationalism when he was a terrorist of the the early 20th century today no Hawiye reveres him and his statue was taken down. Than we removed Imam Ahmed Gurey from the so called Somali nationalism myth that he was fighting for a greater Somali statehood cause when he was an islamist fighting for the expansion of islam in the HOA with various ethnic groups in the horn supporting his conquests. When poet qaasim composed the poem sadaadi cadhooday and said Seeftii Abgaal bay agtaal saawirta ahayde, only a few hawiye got it, that the mad mullah sword is above the Abgaal today, Cismaan caato got it and destroyed the mad cow memorial state in Xamar and sold it to the Arabs. Than we created the SNM the most victorious fighters who laid the foundation of the new Somaliland republic when we first arrived in addis ababa to meet with the derg officials they were surprised, at first they thought we were there to infiltrate Ethiopia.

They said you guys are you going to bring down Muxammed afweyne , they didn't believe it we told them give us 2 and a half years we will eradicate the WSLF from Somali galbeed,than we had the Somali kilil for our selves no one want to challenge us. We exposed the WSLF and brought it to its knees, when the SNM declared a decisive war on the WSLF we cut off their supplies and completely annihilated them by mid 1983 WSL was completely destroyed. And than we furthermore moved to Somaliland removing the Faqash filth from our land in Somaliland hijacking ships planes prison breaks the wars for the golis mountains, than we fired the first shot that would besiege Harigesa burco and cadaadlay in 1988 the beginning of the end for the regime, the civil war officially started. The regime eventually collapsed the USC and SPM took the Jubba regions and the southern part of Somalia fell in the hands of the USC.

When we destroyed the regime we declared our independence rebuilding a nation from scratch, the senior isaaq diplomat Cumar Carte Qaalib made sure that the Somali army becomes defunct and forced them to join the various rebel movements. So that no one can ever come after us, since we are trend setters and Somalis follow isaaq in their footsteps when we declared the independence of Somaliland , Few years Puntland was declared as an autonomous state the smartest daroods and they currently operate as a buffer zone for us cutting them off politically from the south works for us not officially , but a 3rd entity works for us, perfectly. But the daroods are a bit extreme they would use Xabashis to fight their battles like Colonel Cabdulahi Yusuf did. No one can revive the so called Somalinimo no one even knows the true definition of Somalinimo or what it actually means first tell me what Somalinimo means tell us what does it mean greater Somalia does it mean loving another Somali does it mean niiko dancing and wrapping your self with the blue flag. What is this notion called Somalinimo.


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Re: who do we blame for this mutiny

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Casanova25 wrote:called Somaliland? how did it start and where are the neighbours, + other somalis..

a side from Qabiil.. this thread has nothing to do with qabiil at all.. is it only me or all of u can see this evil happening right now in somalia..

1. one tribe wants to take more then her own land and make a new country out of it and sadly that country is within somalia

2. they have even become so cocky that they believe the neighbour tribes lands also do belongs to them and they have created a new flag for it..

seriosly WTF is going on.. can some one explain?

this is mutiny against somalia and not only 1 qabiil, and we need to show our somalinimo against this sad case.. somalia have existed long before this sad civil war and somalia will exist many years to come in glory after this civil war.. but what you can't do is cut the land in half with almost 60% of not your land by heritage.. its not only a crime against somalia but against humanity.. you can have what is yours but there is limits..
We can do it because we can

What are you going to do about it?

Scream from the Amisom bunkers

We Somalilanders have totally extirpated the so called Somali statehood myth, from its very foundation and exposed it to all Somalis the farce it was.
First we removed the so called Mad mullah from the so called Somali mythology statehood that he was fighting for Somali nationalism when he was a terrorist of the the early 20th century today no Hawiye reveres him and his statue was taken down. Than we removed Imam Ahmed Gurey from the so called Somali nationalism myth that he was fighting for a greater Somali statehood cause when he was an islamist fighting for the expansion of islam in the HOA with various ethnic groups in the horn supporting his conquests. When poet qaasim composed the poem sadaadi cadhooday and said Seeftii Abgaal bay agtaal saawirta ahayde, only a few hawiye got it, that the mad mullah sword is above the Abgaal today, Cismaan caato got it and destroyed the mad cow memorial state in Xamar and sold it to the Arabs. Than we created the SNM the most victorious fighters who laid the foundation of the new Somaliland republic when we first arrived in addis ababa to meet with the derg officials they were surprised, at first they thought we were there to infiltrate Ethiopia.

They said you guys are you going to bring down Muxammed afweyne , they didn't believe it we told them give us 2 and a half years we will eradicate the WSLF from Somali galbeed,than we had the Somali kilil for our selves no one want to challenge us. We exposed the WSLF and brought it to its knees, when the SNM declared a decisive war on the WSLF we cut off their supplies and completely annihilated them by mid 1983 WSL was completely destroyed. And than we furthermore moved to Somaliland removing the Faqash filth from our land in Somaliland hijacking ships planes prison breaks the wars for the golis mountains, than we fired the first shot that would besiege Harigesa burco and cadaadlay in 1988 the beginning of the end for the regime, the civil war officially started. The regime eventually collapsed the USC and SPM took the Jubba regions and the southern part of Somalia fell in the hands of the USC.

When we destroyed the regime we declared our independence rebuilding a nation from scratch, the senior isaaq diplomat Cumar Carte Qaalib made sure that the Somali army becomes defunct and forced them to join the various rebel movements. So that no one can ever come after us, since we are trend setters and Somalis follow isaaq in their footsteps when we declared the independence of Somaliland , Few years Puntland was declared as an autonomous state the smartest daroods and they currently operate as a buffer zone for us cutting them off politically from the south works for us not officially , but a 3rd entity works for us, perfectly. But the daroods are a bit extreme they would use Xabashis to fight their battles like Colonel Cabdulahi Yusuf did. No one can revive the so called Somalinimo no one even knows the true definition of Somalinimo or what it actually means first tell me what Somalinimo means tell us what does it mean greater Somalia does it mean loving another Somali does it mean niiko dancing and wrapping your self with the blue flag. What is this notion called Somalinimo.


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You seem to be a Isaaq nationalist and you care for your peoples well being and interest.. its nothing bad actully. I agree with you in some points.. but Ahmed gurey was sixawle Karanle and not darood or close to being it xataa.. the 2 man of the futah are both hawiye garad abun and his cousin ahmed gurey.. even the writter of the futah was pro- those 2 Guys..

If you wanna have your own country why not just withdraw from the invaded lands.. like awdal, sol and sanaag.. everybody has a land and I believe what is yours is indeed yours and you can do whatever you want with your land... become a country with your land, but don't you think keeping pro-somalia states and people as hostages wrong?

I know that many of the idoors view the somali conflict as a never ending conflict and they just wanna turn there backs on them forever and close the entire shiit.. but if you continue with this it will never settle Down with the neighbours, and they are feeling under huge pressure to free themselves.. if even Somaliland becomes a state.. you may have a resistances similar to kashmiir.. so you will never end this but it will continue and no Southern are interested in coming all the way up.. its Somaliland vs pro-somalia neighbours.. its just a political weird spot to be in actully..

so its really hard to side with Somaliland, and i believe all of somalia will side with the pro-somalia camp morally in the end.. I believe its a politically extremism this Somaliland thing..
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Axmed Guray is claimed by every Somali tribe from ogaden Marehaan ciise gadabuursi bartire even Xabashi clans claim him Canfar what he was or his ethnicity is not , And now i here sixaawle the Hawiye claim over Axmed Guray makes no sense at all, they were the least to contribute to the conquest. Any how my point was not his clan or sub clan or what ever his identity was , my point was that Imam Axmed Guray myth of fighting for a non existent Somali republic in the 16 century was just a fairy tale and even some isaaq helped manufacture this myth, because in the 50s they had other intentions. So sool sanaag is our land my question is what are you daroods going to do about it we have it its our land our ancestors and history is enshrined on every stone in sanaag and sool.. Hey would you darood accept that if we give you eastern sool and eastern sanaag in exchange for Lower shabelle i believe the Dir in those area's would not mind being part of Somaliland since gadabuursi is also part of Somaliland , the dir land in lower shabelle would be preserved from Hawiye invaders , you darood get some territories back from us we gain some territories there i think thats a win win what you say casanova. :mrgreen: naa fuck it we keep Sool and Sanaag as a whole and we should free the entire lower shabelle and give the dir support against the hawiye invaders. After all the dir were always our good friends and allies , we have neutralized all threats in the east no one forms a threat to us
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original dervish wrote:Didn`t he claim Hawiye? :?
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Khalid Ali wrote:Axmed Guray is claimed by every Somali tribe from ogaden Marehaan ciise gadabuursi bartire even Xabashi clans claim him Canfar what he was or his ethnicity is not , And now i here sixaawle the Hawiye claim over Axmed Guray makes no sense at all, they were the least to contribute to the conquest. Any how my point was not his clan or sub clan or what ever his identity was , my point was that Imam Axmed Guray myth of fighting for a non existent Somali republic in the 16 century was just a fairy tale and even some isaaq helped manufacture this myth, because in the 50s they had other intentions. So sool sanaag is our land my question is what are you daroods going to do about it we have it its our land our ancestors and history is enshrined on every stone in sanaag and sool.. Hey would you darood accept that if we give you eastern sool and eastern sanaag in exchange for Lower shabelle i believe the Dir in those area's would not mind being part of Somaliland since gadabuursi is also part of Somaliland , the dir land in lower shabelle would be preserved from Hawiye invaders , you darood get some territories back from us we gain some territories there i think thats a win win what you say casanova. :mrgreen: naa fuck it we keep Sool and Sanaag as a whole and we should free the entire lower shabelle and give the dir support against the hawiye invaders. After all the dir were always our good friends and allies , we have neutralized all threats in the east no one forms a threat to us
:lol: :lol: :lol: ,...idoors, walee funny creatures,.......Idoors are no match for hawiye's, just one of the HG boys is enough to capture your deserted dusty triangle-village as a whole, so dont kid yourself:up: :D

kulaha idoors are warriorsLOL
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Even you are dhabayaco girl married to a hawiye man just because Habargedir semen is all over your mouth doesn't make you one
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even123,

war hanagu mar marsiyoon ee be proud of your cismaan maxamuud laf
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FarhanYare wrote:even123,

war hanagu mar marsiyoon ee be proud of your cismaan maxamuud laf
waryaa, im thru and thru Walaahi HG waliba Sacad, my mother is Cisa Mahmoud, and thats all there is to it!
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Khalid Ali wrote:Axmed Guray is claimed by every Somali tribe from ogaden Marehaan ciise gadabuursi bartire even Xabashi clans claim him Canfar what he was or his ethnicity is not , And now i here sixaawle the Hawiye claim over Axmed Guray makes no sense at all, they were the least to contribute to the conquest. Any how my point was not his clan or sub clan or what ever his identity was , my point was that Imam Axmed Guray myth of fighting for a non existent Somali republic in the 16 century was just a fairy tale and even some isaaq helped manufacture this myth, because in the 50s they had other intentions. So sool sanaag is our land my question is what are you daroods going to do about it we have it its our land our ancestors and history is enshrined on every stone in sanaag and sool.. Hey would you darood accept that if we give you eastern sool and eastern sanaag in exchange for Lower shabelle i believe the Dir in those area's would not mind being part of Somaliland since gadabuursi is also part of Somaliland , the dir land in lower shabelle would be preserved from Hawiye invaders , you darood get some territories back from us we gain some territories there i think thats a win win what you say casanova. :mrgreen: naa fuck it we keep Sool and Sanaag as a whole and we should free the entire lower shabelle and give the dir support against the hawiye invaders. After all the dir were always our good friends and allies , we have neutralized all threats in the east no one forms a threat to us
I'm not here to proof what he is.. but the man is sixaawle karanle aka balaaw.. historically, abtirsi and location... there is no discussion about that even his progeny are a live in the same city he was born..

Mogadishu is in sh. hoose! hilarious claim.. shabelle hoose is not even in the discussion or can not be discussed..

good luck with the future hope you will stand your own ground for your future hopes of the new somali isreal similar state.. :up:

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That`s a bit harsh.
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There is no historic evidence of Imam Axmed Guray being a karanle or what ever clan this man is main mystery ethnically and has been claimed by various ethnic groups in the HOA, your theory just remains a theory but i dont really care about his ethnicity , my point was to make sure that Axmed Gurays Jihadist conquests cannot be used for the so called Somali nationalism

Everything can be claimed why cant we claim Marka the Dir were always our allies if we help them preserve their territory they would not mind to be part of Somaliland , i mean whats the point of being part of Somalia if dir lands in Somalia is invaded by others. Marka city and the surrounding area should be our little puerto rico.

Casanova what is your point exactly now you go on and on about i hope you guys stand your ground have we ever ever lost an inch of out territory ever in the entire history we have only gained. You started this topic to condemn isaaq and now you act as if you care for our being come on kid
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even123,
are you saying the pm khalid ali has from you is actually fake?. whereaby, you disclosed to him your qabil (mj)
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Khalid Ali wrote:There is no historic evidence of Imam Axmed Guray being a karanle or what ever clan this man is main mystery ethnically and has been claimed by various ethnic groups in the HOA, your theory just remains a theory but i dont really care about his ethnicity , my point was to make sure that Axmed Gurays Jihadist conquests cannot be used for so called Somali nationalism

Everything can be claimed why cant we claim Marka the Dir were always our allies if we help them preserve their territory they would not mind to be part of Somaliland , i mean whats the point of being part of Somalia if dir lands in Somalia is invaded by others.

Casanova what is your point exactly now you go on and on about i hope you guys stand your ground have we ever ever lost an inch of out territory ever in the entire history we have only gained. You started this topic to condemn isaaq and now you act as if you care for our being come on kid
I don't care for you... :lol: just saying you are fighting for a lost battle already so there is nothing much to say.. this marka thing is a weak myth..

Mogadishu is actully located in sh. hoose as well, so saying sh. hoose belongs to dir is like saying all hawiye should go in the sea.. Ahmed gurey is the tribe he was born into.. which is still a live.. so save me from the he was nobody or the claimers WHO are in love with him..

just keep your chins up the ride might get tough in the end.. :up:
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There are no lost battles in Somalia no in Somalia even won the civil war one groups comes in gets defeated another group takes the helm than gets neutralized by the international community and external factors the biyomaal will always fight invaders and there will be a time they are fed up with what is going on, and the HAG militia calling its self the Somali national army :lol: As for us in Somaliland we have a buffer zone Mamuulka Majeerteenia we cut them from the far south and they operate as a buffer zone for us , for what ever threat that can come from the south which i doubt. And HAG cannot subdue Majeerteenia with force :mrgreen:
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Khalid Ali wrote:There are no lost battles in Somalia no in Somalia even won the civil war one groups comes in gets defeated another group takes the helm than gets neutralized by the international community and external factors the biyomaal will always fight invaders and there will be a time they are fed up with what is going on, and the HAG militia calling its self the Somali national army :lol: As for us in Somaliland we have a buffer zone Mamuulka Majeerteenia we cut them from the far south and they operate as a buffer zone for us , for what ever threat that can come from the south which i doubt. And HAG cannot subdue Majeerteenia with force :mrgreen:
What thats a insults because we all know mj will flee if they hear hawiye is coming is enough for them... i don't think even HAG wants to fight them, bc there is nothing to fight.. they are pro-somalia and this buffer zone thing is just out of line...

people are showing biyomaal mercy sinces they are a Family, but i guess if they continue they can risk Hotel rawanda the second and no one will come to there rescue... :lol:

Never sleep on majerteen as your saviours they will flee before a gun shot.. Somaliland might stand and fight for a while, but there will be no gun fire in puntland if sna decides to come up North.. and we both know that.. :lol:
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