Sniff Sniff - the perfect courtship?

[BlackVelvet]

It was found, by Wedekind and his team, that how women rate a man's body odor pleasantness and sexiness depends upon how much of their MHC profile is shared. Overall, women prefer those scents exuded by men whose MHC profiles varied the most from their own. Hence, any given man's odor could be pleasingly alluring to one woman, yet an offensive turnoff to another.

Raters said that the smells they preferred reminded them of current or ex-lovers about twice as often as did the smells of men who have MHC profiles similar to their own, suggesting that smell had played a role in past decisions about who to date. MHC-similar men's smells were more often described as being like a brother's or father's body odor... as would be expected if the components of smell being rated are MHC determined.

Somewhat more surprising is that women's evaluations of body odor intensities did not differ between MHC-similar and MHC-dissimilar men. Body scent for MHC-dissimilar men was rated as less sexy and less pleasant the stronger it was, but intensity did not affect the women's already low ratings for MHC-similar men's smells.

That strong odor turned raters off even with MHC-dissimilar men may be due to the fact odor is a useful indicator of disease. From diabetes to viral infection to schizophrenia, unusually sweet or strong body odors are a warning cue that ancestral females in search of good genes for their offspring may have been designed to heed. (In the case of schizophrenia, the issue is confounded—while some schizophrenics do actually have an unusually sweet smell, many suffer from delusions of foul smells emanating from their bodies.)

Nobody yet knows what roles MHC may play in male evaluations of female attractiveness. Females' superior sense of smell, however, may well be due to their need to more carefully evaluate a potential mates merits—a poor mate choice for male ancestors may have meant as little as a few minutes wasted, whereas a human female's mistake could result in a nine-month-long "morning after" and a child unlikely to survive.

[BlackVelvet]

Yacni that is to say, the more alluring someone's natural body odour is to you, the more suited you are genetically. In fact, someone's body odour being foul to you could be a sign that you will have problems conceiving




"The Swiss researchers found that women taking oral contraceptives (which block conception by tricking the body into thinking it's pregnant) reported reversed preferences, liking more the smells that reminded them of home and kin. Since the Pill reverses natural preferences, a woman may feel attracted to men she wouldn't normally notice if she were not on birth control—men who have similar MHC profiles.

The effects of such evolutionary novel mate choices can go well beyond the bewilderment of a wife who stops taking her contraceptive pills and notices her husband's "newly" foul body odor. Couples experiencing difficulty conceiving a child—even after several attempts at tubal embryo transfer—share significantly more of their MHC than do couples who conceive more easily. These couples' grief is not caused by either partner's infertility, but to an unfortunate combination of otherwise viable genes."

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So that said, get to sniffing ladies it might save your uterus a lot of trouble

[Tuushi]

We are just a bunch o highly overrated animals after all.

[AgentOfChaos]

We are just a bunch o highly overrated animals after all.

How do you feel about people defining a woman's worth based on her smell tho?

[Tuushi]

We are just a bunch o highly overrated animals after all.

How do you feel about people defining a woman's worth based on her smell tho?

I think they are just talking abt animalistic/primitive attractions based on hormones released.

[AgentOfChaos]

We are just a bunch o highly overrated animals after all.

How do you feel about people defining a woman's worth based on her smell tho?

I think they are just talking abt animalistic/primitive attractions based on hormones released.

Why would a woman let those primitive attractions dictate who she should date tho?

[Basra-]

"From diabetes to viral infection to schizophrenia, unusually sweet or strong body odors are a warning cue that ancestral females in search of good genes for their offspring may have been designed to heed. (In the case of schizophrenia, the issue is confounded—while some schizophrenics do actually have an unusually sweet smell, many suffer from delusions of foul smells emanating from their bodies.)"




This is the part I find most striking. I wish there was more studies on this one. The Thing is we are very unaware of our bodies and illness--tell tell signs. Even the professionally skilled Doctors do not know basic tell tell signs of the human body. They are just trained on trial and tribulation, or specific illiness which they cure every time. I want to know more about if regular people can root out people with undiagnosed diabetes by just the body odor alone. Although, mostly its hygiene issue that is responsible for bad odor, especially the Schizo folks, they are usually DE shelved and not the best in mind to think of hygiene prevention.


On the question of mating and smell sniffing of Romeo and Juliet-- I think its a bit over exaggerated. Smell is dependent on hormones. If u have unbalanced hormones, u will certainly suffer odor.

Also, I have noticed lesbians sense of smell is the exact sense of smell of straight male. I contribute the testosterone hormone with the sense of smell. Obviously a full, pure biologically correct woman will be attracted to a pure biologically correct smell of a male. Its Allaah's swt brilliant plan. Opposite attract. At work women hate other women's perfume, and yet the men cant have enough of the women using perfumes. I have noticed that myself. (I am sure vice versa for men with cologne) lol

Its pure nature at its play & best. But there is oddity and grey lines of course. Like some women prefer men with chest hair, arm hair and face hair while others prefer smooth all over. (however, it is my opinion that women who prefer smooth men are not pure biologically constructed female. They may have excessive testosterone hormones that play trick to their head.)


Overall, biology-is mysterious. God is Great! Allaah Akabaar!

[Tuushi]

Agent.I am pretty sure no woman is going to sniff her way to the altar.

This is just harmless little study that some sciences produced to justify the grants they got.It is just fun to know.

As the article suggested,this world is too polluted to even attempt to a carry on an experiment.

[BlackVelvet]

(however, it is my opinion that women who prefer smooth men are not pure biologically constructed female. They may have excessive testosterone hormones that play trick to their head.)

Well actually they do say that women's preference changes so technically there are times when all women prefer clean shaven men or less hairy ones at least.


Tuushi actually, there is a game plan involved, your genes are at stake so here is what the article suggests you do:



1. Declare a deception-free day for the nostrils. Have your beau shower with fragrance-free soap and wear clean cotton clothing for a day, away from smokers and the perfumed masses. Be sure you don't have a cold, and that you yourself haven't been around smokers for a few days.

2. After he spends a day and a night in his cotton clothes, before he tosses them in the direction of the hamper, wrestle them from him and have a "smelldown." Make it a romantic experience. If your man's shirt doesn't offend, you should be safe. (Find the scent alluring or sexy? Even better! That attraction is nature's way of telling you he's a safe contributor to your offspring's genetic ensemble.)

3. If your man's odor reminds you of your father or of a brother, you may want to consider getting in touch with your doctor and ask about genetic tests before trying to conceive a child. Tell the doctor you're concerned that you may share a close MHC or "HLA" profile. (HLA, for human leukocyte antigen, is a technical tag for human MHC.) Meanwhile, a deceptively pleasing gift of cologne might be in order.

4. Genetic incompatibility is not the only reason you may find his odor offensive. Does his body scent seem unusually intense? He might have a medical condition that explains the smell. Ask him to bring it up at his next medical checkup. A very sweet scent is sometimes evidence of diabetes or schizophrenia—both of which appear to be heritable. It is wise to discuss these issues with each other, and with a doctor, before having kids.

5. Before you decide that your relationship stinks, check your mate's diet. A taste for spicy foods or an overindulgence in garlic can cause strong body odors.

6. If your mate still offends, don't head for the hills just yet. Some clothing detergents can prove to be a bad mix with a fella's scent. Ask that the next time he visits the laundry, he change brands—and give the stinker a second chance!

[AgentOfChaos]

Agent.I am pretty sure no woman is going to sniff her way to the altar.okay

This is just harmless little study that some sciences produced to justify the grants they got.It is just fun to know. I think it's funny if not anything else.

As the article suggested,this world is too polluted to even attempt to a carry on an experiment.I missed that part, may be the fact that I skimmed it has something to do with that.

[Basra-]

Jas

What about the voice of the male? For me, at work, if I speak to a male with extremely hoarse and base like deep hallow voice, I get a little bit fainty. Any biological explanation for this phenomenon?

[Tuushi]

Jasmine.It started to get very silly at that point.


Women are constantly on the move.She will like x maanta and moved on to y barito.


Agent.It is funny article.That whole magazines is like that.They are the Cosmo of 'science" world.

[BlackVelvet]

Basra there are receptors in your ear that can figure out how attractive someone is just from their voice No that's a joke but apparently it's the correlation to body size.



Tuushi why not? If "emotions" are not to be used when making a decision why not this? It's factual, borderline scientific, besides if you can't stand the smell better to know sooner rather than later no?

[Tuushi]

Factual? There arent any facts here.If we had heightened sense of smell that we could trust,maybe give it a go lakiin there is nothing here.



Put science and feelings aside.Pros and cons.Make that list sister.

[BlackVelvet]

That's just cold, you can smell shiir all you have to decide is if it smells alright or oh em gee I want to clean my nostrils out