Ethiopia physically stops 6-region conference, let's 3-regi

[hydrogen]

Come on bruh are we gonna act like S.Hoose is Hawiye territory?

When the renowned Arab geographer documented Merca in the 13th century as the "capital of the Hawiye country" I'm assuming he was hallucinating?

[Titanium]

Lol. Forget about Merca. Photos of today's Barawe indicate a Hawiye majority. There's no Barwani in site

[Marques]

Somalis don't want another tribe to rule over them.

That statement alone is what causes the constitutional crisis today. No one is willing to agree to that statement fully i.e. Ani qabiilkeey dowlada amarkeeda masoo hoos galeeso laakin qabiilada kale waa inaa xukumaa. If you respected what your statement means, you wouldnt peddle all this federal bull knowing the sinister intentions behind it.

[Colonel]

What's sinister about it? Let the majority clans rule their regions while maintaining the rights of minorities. It looks straighforward to me.

The civil war did too much damage for Somalis to go back to centralised 1 clan rule.

[Marques]

So now Madoobe's kin is majority in Jubbada dhexe? Bearing in mind you dont even inhabit Jamaame which is Jubbada hoose.

[Sagaashan]

colonel, these people are right, can't you hear them. They said they rule by the gun, die by the gun. The only way they are giving up power or claiming people's territory is 'qoriga caaradiisa'. I have simple proposal, we recruit 2,000 bantu, biyomaal, or whatever minority that wants to live free of hutu banditry and medieval crimes to an disclosed location in Puntland, train them well, arm them to the teeth and send them back to their land, clandestinely. Case closed

[Colonel]

Marq

who's the majority in J.Dhexe? Fact is we're the majority in the region, of course smaller clans will have their positions.

Besides the people of J.Dhexe support jubbaland sxb they sent their elders and reps to the conference.

[Marques]

Marq

who's the majority in J.Dhexe?

Certainly not OG

What proof do you have?

[Colonel]

I don't wanna get into another long discussion about this sxb. The evidence is out there unless your intentions are demonic

Who's the majority in S.Hoose

[Marques]

No demonic intentions bruh I'm just amazed how you can somehow incorporate an entire region into a federal state when you have little-to-no representation there. Even my stalwart abti Anarchist aka Koronto from beesha OG knows who settles in J/dhexe. Bring some proof and we can have a gentlemans agreement. I'm all for facts.

There is no clan who can claim a monopoly on Sh/hoose. It's probably the most diverse region in terms of sub clans in all of Somalia. Gaaljecel inhabiting the Wanlaweyn/leego area and all of its northern parts. Biimaal and Shiiqaal on the coast, Tunni and Astraaf in Baraawe, Wacdaan and Murusade in the Afgooye corridor, Digil clans in some big towns like Qoryooley and Kuntunwaaray, Ajuuraan and Hintire in Awdheegle and Buulo Mareero etc. I havent even counted the Jareerweyn and the madhibaan. Now you tell me how Raxanweyn from Bay/Bakool can claim this diverse and highly interconnected region? As long as it weakens the Hawiye it must be supported somaha? I have no problem if you feel its a political advantage (because it is ideal for you guys) but please do not masquerade by claiming its an honest and factually-based respected opinion.

[Colonel]

I don't really care who gets control of LS as long as the rights of smaller clans are respected. JD is diverse too, the difference is that all clans are onboard with Jubbaland.

On the other hand you have constant fighting between Hawiye and Dir in LS, and we know who's in the wrong on that

I can't see a centralised government taking place in Somalia anytime soon, let's be realistic.

[Marques]

Well atleast i have made you take a step back with the wild claims of land ownership in the regions and tryna contest the Hawiye of Lower Shabelle. I dont wanna hear you claiming J/dhexe is OG majority if you ain't bringing proof.

You think the Hawiye wont respect minorities but somehow the Darood will?

Who we kiddin fam, you have Darwish as head of internal security of Jubbaland, the former intelligence chief who made discriminatory arrests and caused corruption when Abdullahi Yusuf was President. What makes you think the Bajuuni, the Cawrmale clans etc will allow someone like him to deal with their clans? Why else did they challenge Madoobe even when Kenyans were sponsoring his Inc? This agreement in Addis Ababa was to give you breathing space (although it did no one a favour because clan representation was not correctly respected) due to pressure from Tewodros that the SFG was being bogged down with. If Jubbaland is all happy families, we will see if a single bullet is not fired the moment Kenya leaves sxb.

[Colonel]

You ready for a 20 page thread bruh?
You're lucky it's late enough as it is

I'll deal with you when the sun rises

[Marques]

20 pages is for losers, ill end you in one rudebwoi

[hydrogen]

20 pages is for losers, ill end you in one rudebwoi