Reality of Hiiraan

[TheblueNwhite]

@this thread

These trolls are working overtime.

[GeoSeven]

@this thread

These trolls are working overtime.

In unison as well. Snets troll confederation

[oxymoron]

[TheblueNwhite]

Governor of Hiiraan just doesn't care about you.

[sahal80]

Sahal stop beating around the bushes nerdfresh has a point: why are you finding it hard to capture these town even with AMISOMS help . Either A he is right or B its because Xawaadle themselves are split between supporting this government and HSM. Something tells me you don't want to admit to option B.

Many make it seem like HSM only gets support from certain subclans when we know its is the opposite and that every major clans sublans have a pro and anti HSM supporters the only difference is some more than others.

Even in they are supported ideologically in places like Burco while in Puntland its slowly getting militarily especially among the Leelkase and Warsangelis. Also when it comes to the economy forget the whole of Somaliweyn is in the hands of the HSM financiers AKA Al-Itixaad

My 2 Cents

Firstly, its wrong to call al shabaab a clan organization, murursade and duduble were historical enemies but now are known by "al ansaar" they operate together from ceelbuur to heliwaa!

Why not hawadle and gugundhabe? See how your logic is different with the duduble and murursade case!!

You think al shabaab are clan in hiiraan but are religious organization in hawlwadaag and ceelbuur!

I said al shabaab hiiraan was founded in the south, in jalalaqsi, buloburde and halgan(yusuf ugaas is from halgan a reer ugaas town)

Ex sufis cabdalle who settle along the banks of the river are nowadays salafists

The youth of hassan muse of buloburde have turned into al shabaab this is why laqanyo was picked by the president for being from that jufo.

Hawadle as politicians and elders and normal people are anti-al shabaab but in the south they are less traditional, speak af qoraxsin-kinda of banaadiri- not the bari traditional accent of baladweyne.

We have now two cultures in hiiraan, the traditional bari(baladweyne) and the less cultural qoraxsin(buloburde) where al shabaab was originated from

That is the truth history of al shabaab in hiiraan if you don't believe read the westren links I that posted

Now forget about this international jihad era, we know qannyare but have you ever heard of non hawadle lord in hiiraan?

Between 91 to 2004, hiiraan had undisputed lord who is col hassan qalaad, this man was even planning to have maamul gobaleed called hiiraanland but but hiiraan has lost him in 2004.

Gaaljecel was big supportes of him, the khilaf with gaaljecel appeared during the ambassador laqanyo leadership and then dabageed bc of external hands who dont like the stability in hiiraan to continue. jejeele has replaced the gaaljecel position in all the post hassan qalaad administrations. Now gaaljecel are back in laqanyo administration as having the mayorship and things are better.
This is a gaaljecel politicians during ambassador laqanyo era(laqanyo was once the official governor, pm geedi era)
"Xildhibaan Inj.Buulle: Maamul u dhisan Gobolka Hiiraan oo Mindland la yiraahdo oo aan aqoonsanahay ma jiro, inta maamul looga samaynayo gobolladana waxaa gobolkaa ka sii shaqeynaya maamulkii xilligii UN-ka Soomaaliya ka howl galayay oo ay UNOSOM  u dhistay Gobolkaas, Allaha u naxariistee ninkii maamulkaas Madaxda u ahaa ee Xasan Qalaad wuu geeriyooday"

This article shows the stability that hiiraan had before al shabaab
http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2 ... GLYm-o&s=1

[GeoSeven]

Governor of Hiiraan just doesn't care about you.

No he does not

[Rabshoole]

reer Agoon iyo Cali Madaxweyne hade wax tari kereen we would've seen it. Good thing Amisom finally gave them what they've been wanting to do on their own for centuries.

[GeoSeven]

^ and what did Agoon and Cali Madaxweyne want to do for centuries and what was stopping them

[CaliCaato]

Sahal enough with the fadhi ku dirir stories. West beledweyn is exactly like heliwaa and daynile of Muqdisho, the part you have least support in espacially hawlwadag district. Just because you have ethiopian and djiboutiennes guarding your ass you believe your superior to the other clans in the region, have you no shame at all? Xawaadle with the help of amisom evicted more than 8000 people from their homes in kabxanley and the majority of those people are still missing dead or alive nobody knows.






walahi o talahi xawaadle are evil humanbeings.

Ever cat has it's day, and Xawaadle will all have their heads cut off when their boyfriends are well taken care of.

These crimes will not be forgotten.

Indeed. We should send our Puntland forces to civilise these animals.

[localboy]

sahal, why are you scared of? i advice you to get some help for your qabyaalad filled heart and your deep cuqdad instead of trying to denying it. other than that you seem like a bright kid. the rest, cut the qabyaalad please.

[sahal80]

sahal, why are you scared of? i advice you to get some help for your qabyaalad filled heart and your deep cuqdad instead of trying to denying it. other than that you seem like a bright kid. the rest, cut the qabyaalad please.

Lol at qabyaalad, I didn't mention clans by name simply these guys who landed in this thread are losers who hate the govt/hassan sheekh, I, by here, politically attacking these enemies!!

As for nerdfresh, he is FAR from reality and I'm not the one who is denying any thing, I'm stating the FACTS.

Only two big clans have ruled that region in the 90s, from 91-93 jowhar was under control of hawadle until mohamed dheere allah yarhamah because of losing his districts in xamar, cabdi casiis etc he decided to establish his kingdom in jowhar.

Nerdfresh is claiming to be jajeele a clan who is politically allied with hawadle. Believe me there was one time that hawadle had given one of their seats in the administration to jajeele, they are politically the same as hawadle

All the jajeele lands are military bases for our army, nomads live there together without clashes

This map is from jajeele within hiiraan and bakool, left of farlibaax is bakool. hiraan borders/xadka with bakool are aabeesaale nex to far libaax and qurac joome.

Hawadle namdas live in the west of the river up to 45km, 35km depends on the direction...places like luuq jeeloow or in the northwest places like baardhuyac, qooqane, deefoow, burdhiinle up to mustaxiil along the river.

Hawadles are moore found in qoraxsin buloburde and south west of buuloburde up to buurane next to mahadeey, there is where hawadle, abgaal and gaaljecel west of mahadaay/jowhar/river starts from. Badicade have been incorborated decades ago. Only ceelcali 70km southwest of baladweyne, buq gosaar, buq caqable who belong to gaaljecel are save from hawadle. Some times our army will reach buq gosaar 50km south west of baladweyne

This is northwest our army bases
Xaaladda deegaanka Baar-dhuyac ee galbeedka magaalada ...
www​.hiiraan.com/.../wararka_maanta25- ...
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Wararkii ugu dambeeyay dagaal shalay ka dhacay tuulada ...
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Taliska Ciidanka Mujaahidiinta Al-Shabaab oo faahfaahin ...
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... Al-Shabaab oo faahfaahin dheeri ah ka bixiyay Dagaal saakay ka dhacay Tuulada Baar-dhuyac.
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[Bermooda]

Firstly, its wrong to call al shabaab a clan organization

Brother Sahal i have states this

Many make it seem like HSM only gets support from certain subclans when we know its is the opposite and that every major clans sublans have a pro and anti HSM supporters the only difference is some more than others.

What i wanted to know is if you believed in this cos sometimes you come across as someone who didn't believe that a large part of his clan didn't support them in Hiiraan. Thanks for confirming it

[sahal80]

Bermooda NO

Please read it carefully

I said after my clan lost most of its generals, ambassadors, engeneers, nabadoons; youth leadership have appeared in the less traditional southern part-buloburde, jalalaqsi, halgan, there is where al shabaab come from.

As nomads and politicians, both hawadle and jajeele are againt al shabaab bc they have interess with ethiopia mostly jajeele they depend on kililka.

Titanium have posted before jajeele nomads war againit al shabaab, the some goes for hawadle nomads

[Xamud.]

Sahal stop beating around the bushes nerdfresh has a point: why are you finding it hard to capture these town even with AMISOMS help . Either A he is right or B its because Xawaadle themselves are split between supporting this government and HSM. Something tells me you don't want to admit to option B.

Many make it seem like HSM only gets support from certain subclans when we know its is the opposite and that every major clans sublans have a pro and anti HSM supporters the only difference is some more than others.

Even in they are supported ideologically in places like Burco while in Puntland its slowly getting militarily especially among the Leelkase and Warsangelis. Also when it comes to the economy forget the whole of Somaliweyn is in the hands of the HSM financiers AKA Al-Itixaad

My 2 Cents

You're full of shit, Al Shabab has nothing to offer Leelkase, we fight our battles, we don't need the backing of some terrorist squad to stay alive, like certain tribes.