Should Amiir Godane have a monument in Moqdisho?

[The`Republic]

Sahal, the wali of Kismaayo for ICU was Sh Bashiir Jalaato (Marehan).

Gudoomiyaha Degmada Kismaayo Ee Maxaakiimta Islaamiga Ah Eng- Bashiir Axmed Cabdulle Hiire Iyo Wafdi Uu Hogaaminayo Oo Caawa Soo Gaaray Magaalada Kismaayo
Oct 17,2006

Gudoomiyaha oo lagu soo dhaweeyay duleedka Kismaayo oo ay kaga hortageen masuuliyiin ka tirsan maxaakiimta ayaa waxaa uu la kulmay kullan casho sharaf ahaa oo hoteelka tawakal uga soconayay Culimada beesha sade iyo Saraakiisha Ka tirsan maxaakiimta oo looga hadlayay Beesha Sade iyo Maxaakiimta Khilaafaadka u dhexeeya.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

samatar ironically the same man you are praising would behead you since your a murtad.Dhiigaadu waa xalaal

Warsheekh, the Amiir xafidahu laah does not behead his obedient followers laakiin stop diverting the topic into irreverent issue.
Only comment here if you have an opinion about the Amiir and his rightful place in somali history.

Yaa murtad

[sahal80]

Sahal, the wali of Kismaayo for ICU was Sh Bashiir Jalaato (Marehan).

Gudoomiyaha Degmada Kismaayo Ee Maxaakiimta Islaamiga Ah Eng- Bashiir Axmed Cabdulle Hiire Iyo Wafdi Uu Hogaaminayo Oo Caawa Soo Gaaray Magaalada Kismaayo
Oct 17,2006

Gudoomiyaha oo lagu soo dhaweeyay duleedka Kismaayo oo ay kaga hortageen masuuliyiin ka tirsan maxaakiimta ayaa waxaa uu la kulmay kullan casho sharaf ahaa oo hoteelka tawakal uga soconayay Culimada beesha sade iyo Saraakiisha Ka tirsan maxaakiimta oo looga hadlayay Beesha Sade iyo Maxaakiimta Khilaafaadka u dhexeeya.

Lol voltage at it again.

Turki is marreid ahmed madobes sister, ahmed madobe was the governor of kismayo during the ICU


I have googled both his names and I only come acrros with your link!!

Marehan had no influence at all in the ICU, don't take it as I dislike them lol just because I'm truth seeker!

ogadeen were a religious clan who had influence within the islamic movement from reer sheikh sufi to reer al turki, though this was going to be hard under hassan turki, the marehan may had a better chance if barre hiile joined the ICU earlier, instead, his ceer backers have switched to the ICU like yusuf seraar and indhocade so he couldn't resist alone hassan turki

"The JVA suffered the loss of Kismayo in September 2006 to an array of ICU forces with 130 technicals,[9][10] and further defeat during Islamic Court Union's takeover of the Juba Valley in October 2006,[11]

On September 23, ICU forces under Sheik Hassan Abdullah Hersi al-Turki approached Jilib, en route to Kismayo. Juba Valley Alliance forces withdrew without a fight.[12] After the city fell, on September 24, he promised peace to the city after Islamic militiamen broke up an anti-Islamist demonstration with gunfire, killing three teenagers.[13] On October 3, they took Afmadow.[14] Sakow fell to the ICU on October 25–28 after they militarily defeated the Juba Valley Alliance.[15] By December 13, Salagle also fell to them.[16] The city of Baardhere in Gedo region, was the last sought after prize by the ICU"

[The`Republic]

I didn't ask you about all that.

Again, the wali of Kismaayo for ICU until Ethiopians drove them out was Sheikh Bashiir (Marehan). Ahmed Madoobe was never even in Kismaayo. He was out there in Ras Kamboni with Turki.

As soon as the ICU had taken over, the Marehan accepted the change and joined the ICU force which made the ICU have low dependence on Ras Kamboni.

Sheikh Bashiir, the Wali of Kismaayo was a big part of the effort.

Maxkamadaha Islaamka oo maamul u sameeyay Gobolka Jubbada Hoose

Jimco, October 06, 2006

Xubnaha loo magacaabay Degmada Kismaayo

Duqa magaalada Inj. bashiir Axmed C/llaahi Jarto

http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2006/Oct/wa ... a6-105.htm

Maxaakiimta Jubbooyinka oo maamul u sameeyey deegaankaas.

Jimce, 06 October 2006

Duqa degmada Kismaayo Inj. Bashiir Axmed C/laahi Jurito

http://www.afdheer.com/index.php?option ... Itemid=133

Maamulkan islaami ah ayaa waxaa madaxdiisa ay kala yihiin

Gudoomiyaha degmada Kismaayo; Bashiir Axmed C/laahi.

http://wardheernews.com/news/October/06 ... maanta.htm

[sahal80]

I didn't ask you about all that.

Again, the wali of Kismaayo for ICU until Ethiopians drove them out was Sheikh Bashiir (Marehan). Ahmed Madoobe was never even in Kismaayo. He was out there in Ras Kamboni with Turki.

As soon as the ICU had taken over, the Marehan accepted the change and joined the ICU force which made the ICU have low dependence on Ras Kamboni.

Sheikh Bashiir, the Wali of Kismaayo was a big part of the effort.

Maxkamadaha Islaamka oo maamul u sameeyay Gobolka Jubbada Hoose

Jimco, October 06, 2006

Xubnaha loo magacaabay Degmada Kismaayo

Duqa magaalada Inj. bashiir Axmed C/llaahi Jarto

http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2006/Oct/wa ... a6-105.htm

Maxaakiimta Jubbooyinka oo maamul u sameeyey deegaankaas.

Jimce, 06 October 2006

Duqa degmada Kismaayo Inj. Bashiir Axmed C/laahi Jurito

http://www.afdheer.com/index.php?option ... Itemid=133

Maamulkan islaami ah ayaa waxaa madaxdiisa ay kala yihiin

Gudoomiyaha degmada Kismaayo; Bashiir Axmed C/laahi.

http://wardheernews.com/news/October/06 ... maanta.htm

i get you know. even al shabaab had the system for jubooyinka.

according to the ICU, the governor/wali of kismayo was ahmed madobe, this guy might have been a mayor. yes raas kamoboni has taken over kismayo.
turki giving speech in kismayo as he captures the town
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Abd ... i_al-Turki
ahmed madobe governor of kismayo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Mohamed_Islam

in your logic, its kinda saying fartaag is ruling kismayo now and not ahmed madobe LOOL

[sahal80]

ITS AMAZING HOW CAN ONE DENY ALL THESE REALITIES!!!
http://www.somalitalk.com/2006/sept/25sept16.html

[The`Republic]

Logic has never been your strongest point.

No, Fartaag is a man with pointless title of Vice President to a Jubba Mamul which is clearly Kenyan backed Ras Kamboni.

ICU was a union of Islamist groups centralized in Mogadishu courts shura.

Hassan Turki was a founding father and a larger than life figure. His disciples like Ahmed Madoobe were important through him.

But so too when Hassan Turki made the speech in Kismaayo were men like Sheikh Mohamed Macalin present (for Al Itihad deputy and speaker for the ICU Shura...Marehan).

What I am telling you is the wali of Kismaayo for ICU was Sheikh Bashiir Jalaato. I gave you number of sources even HiiraanOnline.

As soon as the ICU removed Barre, they did everything to get the Marehan power structure to join them. Ahmed Madoobe and Kamboni were in the countryside with title of Gudoomiyaha Jubbada Hoose.

Jubbada Hoose as a political entity is surpasse by Kismaayo the city as the political entity.

Again, according to all that information including actual relevant courses, the wali of Kismaayo was Sheikh Bashiir.

I knew these things as they happened, you are not going to come with wikipedia in 2014.

[sahal80]

Logic has never been your strongest point.

No, Fartaag is a man with pointless title of Vice President to a Jubba Mamul which is clearly Kenyan backed Ras Kamboni.

ICU was a union of Islamist groups centralized in Mogadishu courts shura.

Hassan Turki was a founding father and a larger than life figure. His disciples like Ahmed Madoobe were important through him.

But so too when Hassan Turki made the speech in Kismaayo were men like Sheikh Mohamed Macalin present (for Al Itihad deputy and speaker for the ICU Shura...Marehan).

What I am telling you is the wali of Kismaayo for ICU was Sheikh Bashiir Jalaato. I gave you number of sources even HiiraanOnline.

As soon as the ICU removed Barre, they did everything to get the Marehan power structure to join them. Ahmed Madoobe and Kamboni were in the countryside with title of Gudoomiyaha Jubbada Hoose.

Jubbada Hoose as a political entity is surpasse by Kismaayo the city as the political entity.

Again, according to all that information including actual relevant courses, the wali of Kismaayo was Sheikh Bashiir.

I knew these things as they happened, you are not going to come with wikipedia in 2014.

You said the point I was looking for; who removed barre? Wasn't turki? Joining maamulka after the city was captured?
"As soon as the ICU removed Barre, they did everything to get the Marehan power structure to join them."

Ustaad voltage, your talking about an individuals and I'm talking about the political power that replaced jubba valley

My question is who was leading the army that has removed barre? Wasn't turki? If yes then ahmed madobe his brother in-law is just an extansion of him!

If your saying they were part of the ICU and were not representing clan politics though it was dominated by one subclan that is another issue


I have thousands of links to show them but I don't wanna involve in the clan matters!

I have a link shows hassan turki disarming guutaale and seeraar and where barre was yet operating in gedo-jubada dhexe borders!

Mocaskaraat caanoole, turki, madobe have formed one political power that was based on subclan under the ICU

Hassan turki was the actual ruler aka waaliga maxaakimta ee jubooyinka, I have a link he meets his clan elders and others in kismayo to support the wilaaya!

After these meetings and after 22 days 24 sep-16 oct of being in kismayo, a new administration was formed just like raas kambooni is doing nowdays.

This maamul was based on a power-sharing in wich marehan was given the mayor position

All the political groups do the same whenever they reach the power!

Al shabaab had the same political system in there, kismayo had its own mayor but the governor waaliga jubooyinka, jubada house was kind of president of jubbaland! He is the responsible one for political and military matters, example, I read hassan yacquub was first appointed in the army by madobe and then he turned againist him empowering himself with al shabaab!

As I found out his popular nick name "bashir jarato" I come across of a lot of links says maxaakimta oo maamul usameesay kismayo!


What can that tell you?


That is my in put on this topic I will stop at there.

Seen many but I will post snet wich has more details
viewtopic.php?t=73566&p=974084&sid=6b50 ... 39#p974067

[The`Republic]

Walaalow waqatiga hayga dhumin.

[TheblueNwhite]

Hargeysa is where Godane is hailed as a national hero, so it's only right if a monument of Godane is errected there.

Yep.