Somalia yet again shows its true

[GenkinMaru]

FYI, the minister is dirty waqooyi from SL, who just hates his country and is too loyal for HAG and Xamar. Don't blame it on "walanweyn". There's just too many self-hating Somalilanders.

Are u saying a wasakhgali rat is more powerful than ur president why doesnt ur president than say he is talking shit the agreement with SL is binding ,, or can a wasakhgali override the treaties the hawiye president signed with Somaliland???

First of all this minister clearly speaks emotionally on this issue, maybe because he hates SL. Secondly, i assume any aviation deals must be passed by the SFG parliament before they get implemented. Furthermore this is best for you, as a country or else you will look like a federal state within Somalia.

The point is not the deal. This minister represents all that is wrong in Somalia and is furter proof that thei word means absolutely nothing. Surely if they can't even hold to such a minor agreement what good is their word. This is just what Somaliland needed to end the useless talks and not look as noncomprimising in the eyes of international community.

[Somali-Transporter]

U can never rally the darood behind you , Puntland and Jubbaland will remain they played it very well with the Kenyan foot there.., The darood can use you against Somaliland ,but u can never use the darood against Somaliland... The darood interest is to be dominant in the the 2 jubba territories the biggest darood problem is the Ogaden and the Marehaan and the Majeerteen and Ogaden problem if they resolve that and that needs allot of turxaan bixin. We in Somaliland are just watching.. the game down in the south.. hawiye tried to win over the Marehaan but the Marehaan are divided. the pm is pro Jubbaland many Marehaan are pro Jubbaland but want a bigger pie.. We in Somaliland have secured all our borders only the bocame village left. we have chased Khatumo all the way down the border. The Hawiye led government has legitimacy given by the international community but does no go beyond xamar. The Darood want Somaliland to join their federalism band wagon but we do not want it we want full seperation the darood would love if we support their federalism they would turn Somalia into switzerland federal states. with a weak central. but we in SL are not interest the darood visualize Somalia as this Somaliland Jubbaland Puntland bay and bakool and lower shabelle. And the Hawiye to have the center and xamar to be shared.

But we want nothing the reason faroole always said anaga iyo Somaliland ,it was to create a brother alliance. between Somaliland and Puntland, i will not be surpised if a darood wins the seat in xamar in 2016.the darood are very ambitious , and u have little or no friends the dir in lower shabele are ur enemies forget about rahanweyn. The Marehaan are just there to eat with u they are not there to be ur friends. The Somalilanders would have been ur friends but u support the cancerous union they hate so much i think ur on ur own

Worst political analysis ever.. ask the darood themselves, if they are given Jubba and they have puntland already they will be fully feed... what is left for them then?? they want to free other relatives, and I imagine they will be more motivated then us to come north.. we will be less motivated!

its not about using each other its called same interest.. The politics are just moving that way right now as we speak! Abdiweli gaas is not an enemy of Mogadisu and so is Jubba leaders... but his an enemy of Hargeisa! Puntland have actully declared war 3 days ago on somaliland! there is no love there

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Kaagan Sacad Muuse ee Khalid Ali la magac baxay.

Ha noo kala saarsaarin. Waa wada kudaafad and our people and reer SL in general must stay away from these uskag.

Precisely why we can't break away. This qashin will crumble and fall under ethiopia or kenya and it will bie us in the arse. It is better for us to govern them and teach them how to behave like humans.

[Khalid Ali]

Gj Jamac never undersestimate your enemies the daarood might have been beated in 1991 but they game back stronger under Cabdilahi Yusuf and remember what they have done. Right now they are buying time arming themselvs under the supervision of Kenya they are calculating never under estimate darood, this the biggest mistake the Hawiye the darood willl try to find a friction with in hawiye and use it . Jubbaland might look pathatic now but who knows what it looks like in a few years time darood will use both kenya and ethiopia to minimize Mogadishu role.. Yeah sure the hawiyes drove darood into Kenya in 1991 , but what happened next u allowed them back in your homes and they bite you. But Hawiye have to many people who support the cancerous union like Somali transporter who believes he can invade Somaliland with a darood army Your biggest focus is kismayo if Hawiye loses his influances there its done, than darood has won.

[GenkinMaru]

Kaagan Sacad Muuse ee Khalid Ali la magac baxay.

Ha noo kala saarsaarin. Waa wada kudaafad and our people and reer SL in general must stay away from these uskag.

Precisely why we can't break away. This qashin will crumble and fall under ethiopia or kenya and it will bie us in the arse. It is better for us to govern them and teach them how to behave like humans.

what logic is this? They are already under ethiopian and kenyan thumb.

[GIJaamac]

Kaagan Sacad Muuse ee Khalid Ali la magac baxay.

Ha noo kala saarsaarin. Waa wada kudaafad and our people and reer SL in general must stay away from these uskag.

Precisely why we can't break away. This qashin will crumble and fall under ethiopia or kenya and it will bie us in the arse. It is better for us to govern them and teach them how to behave like humans.

Says the magan of Xabashi out of all people.

"we will defend somaliland". said ethiopian pm hailemariam desalegn
http://www.somalilandpatriots.com/news-13413-0

Dirty waqooyi just focus on your country, even though it's hopeless.

[Khalid Ali]

U can never rally the darood behind you , Puntland and Jubbaland will remain they played it very well with the Kenyan foot there.., The darood can use you against Somaliland ,but u can never use the darood against Somaliland... The darood interest is to be dominant in the the 2 jubba territories the biggest darood problem is the Ogaden and the Marehaan and the Majeerteen and Ogaden problem if they resolve that and that needs allot of turxaan bixin. We in Somaliland are just watching.. the game down in the south.. hawiye tried to win over the Marehaan but the Marehaan are divided. the pm is pro Jubbaland many Marehaan are pro Jubbaland but want a bigger pie.. We in Somaliland have secured all our borders only the bocame village left. we have chased Khatumo all the way down the border. The Hawiye led government has legitimacy given by the international community but does no go beyond xamar. The Darood want Somaliland to join their federalism band wagon but we do not want it we want full seperation the darood would love if we support their federalism they would turn Somalia into switzerland federal states. with a weak central. but we in SL are not interest the darood visualize Somalia as this Somaliland Jubbaland Puntland bay and bakool and lower shabelle. And the Hawiye to have the center and xamar to be shared.

But we want nothing the reason faroole always said anaga iyo Somaliland ,it was to create a brother alliance. between Somaliland and Puntland, i will not be surpised if a darood wins the seat in xamar in 2016.the darood are very ambitious , and u have little or no friends the dir in lower shabele are ur enemies forget about rahanweyn. The Marehaan are just there to eat with u they are not there to be ur friends. The Somalilanders would have been ur friends but u support the cancerous union they hate so much i think ur on ur own

Worst political analysis ever.. ask the darood themselves, if they are given Jubba and they have puntland already they will be fully feed... what is left for them then?? they want to free other relatives, and I imagine they will be more motivated then us to come north.. we will be less motivated!

its not about using each other its called same interest.. The politics are just moving that way right now as we speech! Abdiweli gaas is not an enemy of Mogadisu and so is Jubba leaders... but his an enemy of Hargeisa! Puntland have actully declared war 3 days ago on somaliland! there is no love there

U still dont undertand the clan dynamics in SOMALILAND and puntland relations in the taleex dispute , taleex is a town where 2 nuur axmed clans fougtt some of the disputes were created by Khatumo the group that supported Puntland switched sides abdisamad cali shires clan samaab cali nur a re now with Somaliland ., puntland will not dare to attack the pro khatumo factions is divided into 2 a group that already supported Somaliland and the group of cali khalif , trust me on this abdi weli will not fire a single shot its has been 9 days. Somaliland is on the move and Puntland knows this but it will not fire a single shot towards sl if puntland comes a massacare will happen like when faroole came to taleex



As for empowering darood in kismayo to get back at Somaliland by my guests it does not hurt us , jubbaland Hurts hawiye it does not hurt Somaliland actually Kenya helps us to kenya weakens Somalia , and the more kenya weakens Somalia the better for Somaliland in the short term some times long term depends if Somalia is an enemy or not.

[GIJaamac]

Gj Jamac never undersestimate your enemies the daarood might have been beated in 1991 but they game back stronger under Cabdilahi Yusuf and remember what they have done. Right now they are buying time arming themselvs under the supervision of Kenya they are calculating never under estimate darood, this the biggest mistake the Hawiye the darood willl try to find a friction with in hawiye and use it . Jubbaland might look pathatic now but who knows what it looks like in a few years time darood will use both kenya and ethiopia to minimize Mogadishu role.. Yeah sure the hawiyes drove darood into Kenya in 1991 , but what happened next u allowed them back in your homes and they bite you. But Hawiye have to many people who support the cancerous union like Somali transporter who believes he can invade Somaliland with a darood army Your biggest focus is kismayo if Hawiye loses his influances there its done, than darood has won.

How jebertis came stronger under beer doofaar when it was U.S funded Xabashis who destroyed HG/ICU. Ma nin dabadhilif oo la iska dharbaaxi jirey ayaa maanta geesi ka dhigtey. Nigga listen, no somali clan can challenge HAGs, except themselves. Jubbas will always be controlled from Xamar, if there are no foreigners there as the history has shown us. The only thing which is keeping down HAG is AMISOM and arms embargo. When those two things are handled, it will be cake walk after that. Rajadana ma xuma sxb. Waxba annaga hanaga walwalin. Adduunka waxa ka harey waa adiga sxb. taada ku mashquul sxb. Rafaad aktaada ayay buuxdaa. Allaa kuu maqan.

ps. Somali transporter is darood.

[Somali-Transporter]

U can never rally the darood behind you , Puntland and Jubbaland will remain they played it very well with the Kenyan foot there.., The darood can use you against Somaliland ,but u can never use the darood against Somaliland... The darood interest is to be dominant in the the 2 jubba territories the biggest darood problem is the Ogaden and the Marehaan and the Majeerteen and Ogaden problem if they resolve that and that needs allot of turxaan bixin. We in Somaliland are just watching.. the game down in the south.. hawiye tried to win over the Marehaan but the Marehaan are divided. the pm is pro Jubbaland many Marehaan are pro Jubbaland but want a bigger pie.. We in Somaliland have secured all our borders only the bocame village left. we have chased Khatumo all the way down the border. The Hawiye led government has legitimacy given by the international community but does no go beyond xamar. The Darood want Somaliland to join their federalism band wagon but we do not want it we want full seperation the darood would love if we support their federalism they would turn Somalia into switzerland federal states. with a weak central. but we in SL are not interest the darood visualize Somalia as this Somaliland Jubbaland Puntland bay and bakool and lower shabelle. And the Hawiye to have the center and xamar to be shared.

But we want nothing the reason faroole always said anaga iyo Somaliland ,it was to create a brother alliance. between Somaliland and Puntland, i will not be surpised if a darood wins the seat in xamar in 2016.the darood are very ambitious , and u have little or no friends the dir in lower shabele are ur enemies forget about rahanweyn. The Marehaan are just there to eat with u they are not there to be ur friends. The Somalilanders would have been ur friends but u support the cancerous union they hate so much i think ur on ur own

Worst political analysis ever.. ask the darood themselves, if they are given Jubba and they have puntland already they will be fully feed... what is left for them then?? they want to free other relatives, and I imagine they will be more motivated then us to come north.. we will be less motivated!

its not about using each other its called same interest.. The politics are just moving that way right now as we speech! Abdiweli gaas is not an enemy of Mogadisu and so is Jubba leaders... but his an enemy of Hargeisa! Puntland have actully declared war 3 days ago on somaliland! there is no love there

U still dont undertand the clan dynamics in SOMALILAND and puntland relations in the taleex dispute , taleex is a town where 2 nuur axmed clans fougtt some of the disputes were created by Khatumo the group that supported Puntland switched sides abdisamad cali shires clan samaab cali nur a re now with Somaliland ., puntland will not dare to attack the pro khatumo factions is divided into 2 a group that already supported Somaliland and the group of cali khalif , trust me on this abdi weli will not fire a single shot its has been 9 days. Somaliland is on the move and Puntland knows this but it will not fire a single shot towards sl if puntland comes a massacare will happen like when faroole came to taleex



As for empowering darood in kismayo to get back at Somaliland by my guests it does not hurt us , jubbaland Hurts hawiye it does not hurt Somaliland actually Kenya helps us to kenya weakens Somalia , and the more kenya weakens Somalia the better for Somaliland in the short term some times long term depends if Somalia is an enemy or not.

Who said we want Kismayo for ourselves?? we are not even minority in kismayo but rare, all we want was marehan to gain power there.. Hawiye are not that large to even populate from galmudug to sh. hoose! thats a country 10 times bigger then switzerland.. No Thanks to Jubba! we can't fully populate those areas..

Our main goal is Galmudug to sh. hoose! thats a large map! after sh.hoose we are done! fully feed! historically we have never past Sh. Hoose cities like barawe marko etc etc..

instead of your weak analysis why don't you ask the darood themselves what they think about it..

[thegoodshepherd]

Hawiye have no power south of Marka, they stop at lower shebelle.
Khalid ali you don't know anything about Somalia
Jubaland has refused to be ruled from Xamar, and wants to become like Puntland, autonomous but not independent.

The man with the 2500 SFG army in Jubaland waa Ogaden who supports Jubaland, if Hawiye attack he will demolish them.
Darood have agreed no hutu in Jubaland at any cost!! I say hutu come fight us again, and lose more men
They couldn't take an inch of land from Darood in 23 years, what makes them think they can now??

[sahal80]

I don't think there was a point in that agreement(the joint management of SOMALIAS airspace)

And mogadishu being the head of the committee where ever the office would be located because the system is somalia and carries its code

Secondly as I was told there's a technical problem from the international aviation office

Every country has its airspace in the capitals airport, this office manges nationally all the flights in all the airports


As for somalia, they have some code represents mogadishu(the capital) some thing like Mog ISO 252 not sure though

They should contact through that code

After they found out this the ex interior said to the aviation oh sorry didn't know the system!

I heard that the futherst option that the somali govt could go for it is to transfer the call to the north when a flight heads there so they can deal with it!.

[sahal80]

[quote="sahal80"]double post.

[Somali-Transporter]

Gj Jamac never undersestimate your enemies the daarood might have been beated in 1991 but they game back stronger under Cabdilahi Yusuf and remember what they have done. Right now they are buying time arming themselvs under the supervision of Kenya they are calculating never under estimate darood, this the biggest mistake the Hawiye the darood willl try to find a friction with in hawiye and use it . Jubbaland might look pathatic now but who knows what it looks like in a few years time darood will use both kenya and ethiopia to minimize Mogadishu role.. Yeah sure the hawiyes drove darood into Kenya in 1991 , but what happened next u allowed them back in your homes and they bite you. But Hawiye have to many people who support the cancerous union like Somali transporter who believes he can invade Somaliland with a darood army Your biggest focus is kismayo if Hawiye loses his influances there its done, than darood has won.

How jebertis came stronger under beer doofaar when it was U.S funded Xabashis who destroyed HG/ICU. Ma nin dabadhilif oo la iska dharbaaxi jirey ayaa maanta geesi ka dhigtey. Nigga listen, no somali clan can challenge HAGs, except themselves. Jubbas will always be controlled from Xamar, if there are no foreigners there as the history has shown us. The only thing which is keeping down HAG is AMISOM and arms embargo. When those two things are handled, it will be cake walk after that. Rajadana ma xuma sxb. Waxba annaga hanaga walwalin. Adduunka waxa ka harey waa adiga sxb. taada ku mashquul sxb. Rafaad aktaada ayay buuxdaa. Allaa kuu maqan.

ps. Somali transporter is darood.

GiJamaac aka Khalid ali trying to destroy hag and darood coming together is funny move... this is only the internet! Its all about interest!

[Khalid Ali]

We are not talking about the system and the codes the aviation code of Somalia , we are talking about the initilial agreeement signed by both Somalia and Somaliland to have the joint management airspace control head quarters in Hargeysa as agreed it is written the Mogadishu government wants to go against what they have signed already it was agreed that each side will bring forward 3 persons and the head quarters will be in hargeysa , and they will be jointly managing and sharing the revenues , this was the agreement i dont know if u have another agreeement


Somali transporter Marehxaan are darood Marexaan if the can get Kismayo they will rule it but they cant Kenya does not trust them nor does kablalax they have the vp of jubba land, what the daroods are fighting for is an autonomous darood state in the south that works for the interest of daroods the smaller other clans will be marganilized that is the aim, but than again u are hawiye and u are very slow.

[Khalid Ali]

G jamac i understand cabdilahi yusuf was no libaax but he played his cards well the US the xabashis he used them all its called karti ,, he might have beenslapped around, but as a darood he had to get revenge for what hawiye did to his kith and kin in 1991. i am just saying friction islamism inter hawiye conflict and cabdilahi Yusuf playing his card played all a role and ofcourse the external factors were there 2 but we we all know it has had a tribal dimention to it


and ur right somali transporter sounds darood he said he wishes to empower darood to get back against Somaliland i mean what on earth would a hawiye empower darood to get back at Somaliland when Somaliland is not there to stop Hawiye interest,, he sound very much darood..