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Wadani&UCID waiting in the wings in vain....

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100% They have no policies besides take shots at the ruling party's every policy regardless of its benefits. They only consistent message is that they will use any means to get the seat even if it damages our national interests.....



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And what's kulmiye's policies?

Dealing with tahriib epidemic - No
Dealing with the currency problem and cracking down on black-market exchanges which cost the country billions of dollars in valuable hard currency - Nope
Dealing with internal enemies and nabadiids - You must be kidding.
Developing infrastructure and the economy - not a chance in hell.
Overhauling and restructuring the armed services - Hahaha nope.
Restricting qaat imports and sale as well as increasing tax on it - What are you smoking?

:ohhh: So why vote for Kulmiye? Oh that's right, they built the ugly circus "airport" whilst pocketing the lions share of the money donated. And also they're HJ.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:And what's kulmiye's policies?

Dealing with tahriib epidemic - No
Dealing with the currency problem and cracking down on black-market exchanges which cost the country billions of dollars in valuable hard currency - Nope
Dealing with internal enemies and nabadiids - You must be kidding.
Developing infrastructure and the economy - not a chance in hell.
Overhauling and restructuring the armed services - Hahaha nope.
Restricting qaat imports and sale as well as increasing tax on it - What are you smoking?

:ohhh: So why vote for Kulmiye? Oh that's right, they built the ugly circus "airport" whilst pocketing the lions share of the money donated. And also they're HJ.
Bro, regardless of Kulmiyes ''tribe'' it's been a breath of fresh air....

It built infrastructure roads/airports etc

it has brought more land under somaliland and solidified out original gains

it has brought in free school for everyone

it has increased tax collection increasing the budget more

it has organised the army better with ranks for everyone

it was increased and informed the somaliland shilling with places like burco and erigabo now using it instead of the somali shilling...

Now Kulmiye could do better but under the current toxic somaliland political seen and the conditions its under i think it's doing quite well...
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:And what's kulmiye's policies?

Dealing with tahriib epidemic - No
Dealing with the currency problem and cracking down on black-market exchanges which cost the country billions of dollars in valuable hard currency - Nope
Dealing with internal enemies and nabadiids - You must be kidding.
Developing infrastructure and the economy - not a chance in hell.
Overhauling and restructuring the armed services - Hahaha nope.
Restricting qaat imports and sale as well as increasing tax on it - What are you smoking?

:ohhh: So why vote for Kulmiye? Oh that's right, they built the ugly circus "airport" whilst pocketing the lions share of the money donated. And also they're HJ.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:And what's kulmiye's policies?

Dealing with tahriib epidemic - No
Dealing with the currency problem and cracking down on black-market exchanges which cost the country billions of dollars in valuable hard currency - Nope
Dealing with internal enemies and nabadiids - You must be kidding.
Developing infrastructure and the economy - not a chance in hell.
Overhauling and restructuring the armed services - Hahaha nope.
Restricting qaat imports and sale as well as increasing tax on it - What are you smoking?

:ohhh: So why vote for Kulmiye? Oh that's right, they built the ugly circus "airport" whilst pocketing the lions share of the money donated. And also they're HJ.
Some of your points are valid, some are not. But supposing they were all true, what exactly do you expect Jamal and cirro will do differently? There is a Somali proverb: Wax aadan saacad ku garan sanado kuma baratid. If you seriously think the alternative is any better then caqligu futaduu kaaga jiraa ee please re-locate it to its rightful place adigoo raali ah. Haye, bal maxaad noo sheegeysaa marka liquid-hydrogena waad la baxdee? Xayawaan fowqal xayaan. HJ ilaahay baa idiin soo diray, dadkani waa awliyo, al xam dulilah iska dhaha oo madaxda adeeca walaalayaal.
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Everything I have said is true. Otherwise bring proof that the issues I have raised have been dealt with or are being dealt with. I did not say cirro or jamaal will deal with them. I'm sure they will be just as useless and corrupt as kulmiye. My point was to highlight the joke Somaliland has become. It's a population of ignorant geeljires and unambitious and corrupt politicians. 23 years and still nothing to show for it. Being better than xamar is not something to brag about. Deepite xamar being a shithole warzone, you don't get the levels of tahriib we get. If people don't even want to live in this "democratic" paradise that is the greatest condemnation you can get.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:And what's kulmiye's policies?

Dealing with tahriib epidemic - No
Societal problem. There are some people who can easily manage getting three meals a day and a place to sleep and still choose to risk their lives on a tiny boat in the ocean. Idiots, - we can all do without them, I say let them die. Qurbo joog who work as xamaals and cleaners oversease, and go back home with bling bling and few dollars are also part of the problem. They make it out as if these foreign countries are heaven on earth. There are some people who have more money than the average qaxooti and still obsessed with dhoof. Well I'm sorry but that is not something any government can do anything about. Too bad if the people are not nationalistic enough to stay in and build their country.
LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Dealing with the currency problem and cracking down on black-market exchanges which cost the country billions of dollars in valuable hard currency - Nope
There is some truth to this, but the government is working on it. There was a media conference from the interior minister not long ago on this very problem. Like few days ago, I trust you can find the link yourself.
LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Dealing with internal enemies and nabadiids - You must be kidding.
A load of rubbish.Habar fadhida legdin wax uga fudud, you are like an old sitting fat lady who passess judgement on the wrestling abilities and techniques of professionals.

LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Developing infrastructure and the economy - not a chance in hell.
Give me a fukcing break! They did limit corruption and increas the budget from 35 million to 250 million, and so far as infrastructure goes more factories and other facilities have been built in the last 4 years than the previous 14.


LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Overhauling and restructuring the armed services - Hahaha nope.
That was actually one of the first things they did when they came to power. They increased their wages and not long ago were hoping to restructure them and give them propper ranks. Not sure if the seccond part of that task is yet completed. In anycase you got that one miserably wrong.



LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Restricting qaat imports and sale as well as increasing tax on it - What are you smoking?
Now this is the only valid point you made so far. But again this is a societal problem which only education and community awareness can completely fix. Nevertheless the government needs to do something about it ASAP. Hell, I would go so far as to suggest qad should be banned all together, and if the people protest lets unleash the notorious RRU on them and this time give them permission to use life ammunition. Feed the useless chewers some lead instead. How else is the country going to make any progress if roughly 25% of males are drugs at any given time?


LiquidHYDROGEN wrote::ohhh: So why vote for Kulmiye? Oh that's right, they built the ugly circus "airport" whilst pocketing the lions share of the money donated. And also they're HJ.
No evidence what so ever on pocketed money or corruption. Not a shred. And of course they are not all HJ, you idiot! :roll:
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Walaal, your're not talking to a child but an adult capable of thinking for himself instead of swallowing the shit the government tell him. I have been to the country three times in recent years. I also have brothers who live in the country and they are telling me the place is a shambles. They work in the government or own businesses and I don't mean to be rude but I trust their words and my own experiences more than what you've typed up. All I see are excuses. You're trying to make it out as if these lowlives are dealing with highly intricate and worldwide problems. I swear I could deal with most of those issues in matter of months and all of them within a year. I'm not blowing my own horn, I'm indicating the incompetence of the SL politicians. Like I said, none of those issues have evn been attempted let alone dealt with.
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Kulmiye is useless.

Wadani is useless.

Ucid is useless.
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Xildiiid wrote:Kulmiye is useless.

Wadani is useless.

Ucid is useless.
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I think whats even more useless is people who from their western subsidised welfare housing pass judgement on individuals who are out on the ground making a difference. Regardless how little their contribution is it still significantly better than each and everyone of us...
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What difference? Some of the ministers work an hour a day doing nothing.

Some places in SL has not seen proper governance and if the people didn't have common sense like our neighbors down south there would be chaos everywhere.

What individuals are out there making a true difference? Bal inoo sheeg kuweey yihiin?
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Going for ad hominems when you can't bring a single useful and tangible proof that kulmiye is not as bakhti as the other "politicians". No wonder these people win elections and stay in power, they have people like you drinking the Kool-Aid. An people with common sense and pride would've dragged the whole lot out and shot them.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Going for ad hominems when you can't bring a single useful and tangible proof that kulmiye is not as bakhti as the other "politicians". No wonder these people win elections and stay in power, they have people like you drinking the Kool-Aid. An people with common sense and pride would've dragged the whole lot out and shot them.
Adigu horta your ashamed of A) being black and B) being Somali. I have yet to see a single post EVER of you posting anything positive about Somalia/Somaliland. Must of your posts have a single them;criticism and on the whole negative. So yes I have a problem with somebody who lives in the west constantly belittling the little achievements by Somaliland and its people. We have a young democracy and we have a long way to go and progress will be measured in fractions and not double digits as you would wish. Mistake will be made but screaming from the sideline like you know better reminds me of those football fans who after the game is finished talk like they know it wall whilst singling out player X claiming she should have done this or that.

Now returning to your current target Kulmiye; it has done a lot in its time more than the last party and maybe the next party will even do better than Kulmiye, but I personally think we are going the right direction...
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skywalker25 wrote:
LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:Going for ad hominems when you can't bring a single useful and tangible proof that kulmiye is not as bakhti as the other "politicians". No wonder these people win elections and stay in power, they have people like you drinking the Kool-Aid. An people with common sense and pride would've dragged the whole lot out and shot them.
Adigu horta your ashamed of A) being black and B) being Somali. I have yet to see a single post EVER of you posting anything positive about Somalia/Somaliland. Must of your posts have a single them;criticism and on the whole negative. So yes I have a problem with somebody who lives in the west constantly belittling the little achievements by Somaliland and its people. We have a young democracy and we have a long way to go and progress will be measured in fractions and not double digits as you would wish. Mistake will be made but screaming from the sideline like you know better reminds me of those football fans who after the game is finished talk like they know it wall whilst singling out player X claiming she should have done this or that.

Now returning to your current target Kulmiye; it has done a lot in its time more than the last party and maybe the next party will even do better than Kulmiye, but I personally think we are going the right direction...
I have never ever said or indicated I'm ashamed of being black or somali, so don't put words in mouth. The second thing, SL has no achievements. Sorry to break it to you but "peace" which just means "not killing eachother" is not considered an achievement by any stretch of the imagination. You could understand the significance of israelis and palestinians settling for peace because they are neither the same religion, ethnicity, culture or language nd before 1945, they didn't even know eachother. But when a somali brags about not killing another somali, it's just fcking sad. I have posted many positive things about Somalia, unfortunately the postive things that can be said about the people are scarce.

You do not have a democracy. You have a tribal fiefdom, slightly better than PL. People who speak against the government are imprisoned or exiled. Opposition are bullied and impeded. When a man is not even allowed to visit the grave or funeral of his parent, that's sick and petty. Also, I think you already know I don't really give two shits about democracy. I care about wealth and quality of life. China is a one party dictatorship which cracks down on dessent and opposition, yet the average Slander would would still rather live in China because of opportunities and quality of life. Silly childish soundbites like "democracy" and "freedom" are about as useful and relevant as toilet paper when compared to high income, education and better opportunities for work and leisure.

You, and those like you, are everything that is wrong with the somali race. Complacent and pointless. Any criticism is seen as an insult and anybody with initiative or a brain is despised and sidelined. My little brother know more about how to run a country than you uncle. Lakiin keep cheering for him. And my greatest proof would be the state of the country. If I was a betting man, I would bet that if the country was given 100 years the situation would be no different. Actually 90% of the population would have fled long before.
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