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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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Samatr wrote:Food shortage I can understand being a problem
but not having clean water is just a shame, when you have the longest coast line in Africa; it's not too expensive to utilize the water from the coast and turn into drinkable water.
Making ocean water drinkable, on which planet have they invented this technology
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thehappyone wrote:
Samatr wrote:Food shortage I can understand being a problem
but not having clean water is just a shame, when you have the longest coast line in Africa; it's not too expensive to utilize the water from the coast and turn into drinkable water.
Making ocean water drinkable, on which planet have they invented this technology
Need billions to do it but Somalia should get desalination plants!
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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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thehappyone wrote:
Samatr wrote:Food shortage I can understand being a problem
but not having clean water is just a shame, when you have the longest coast line in Africa; it's not too expensive to utilize the water from the coast and turn into drinkable water.
Making ocean water drinkable, on which planet have they invented this technology
It's very possible, do a little research.


Fah

I think billions is a small price to pay if your saving all those lives; especially the young people; you never know what a child is going to become they might become the doctor who cures cancer or another terminal illness.
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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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Boiling sea water and capturing the smoke isn't viable u dimwit, it's energy intensive, energy Somalia doesn't have, if you had that amount of energy you'd be better of selling it and creating tap water from aquifers, fuck outta here with your billion dollar pipedream

Anyway, I have to fill some shelves at my local supermarket, I'll be back in couple hours
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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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thehappyone wrote:
Samatr wrote:Food shortage I can understand being a problem
but not having clean water is just a shame, when you have the longest coast line in Africa; it's not too expensive to utilize the water from the coast and turn into drinkable water.
Making ocean water drinkable, on which planet have they invented this technology
It's called desalination, it's doable but very expensive. The world leaders in desalination tech is Israel which gets half of its water from seawater desalination. Most of Israel is a desert with long droughts like Somalia. Right now Israeli desalination firms are solving California's water crisis by building desalination plants on the west coast.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination#Israel

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-1 ... ought.html


But at this point desalination is out of the question for Somalia, it doesn't have the billions to build or maintain even 1 desalination plant. The manmade famine problem is a consequence of stupidity on the part of all actors in Zoomalia, and ignorant people with poor preparation for cycles of drought.

What do you expect to happen when you're fighting in the breadbasket of the country, burning down farmers' villages, preventing aid from reaching starving people because it's from kaffirs, burning your sparse greenery to be exported as charcoal to Arabs, not planning ahead by storing water and grains for the future and stubbornly sticking to a nomadic lifestyle from the stone age? Then when the world can't stomach letting hundreds of thousands of people just perish, you respond by killing those that come to save your Zoomalian ass. Kidnapping and killing volunteer doctors so much that MSF has to quit a country for the first time ever. Caku Zoomali :down:
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Desalination is only inefficient when you live in a country with little-to-no natural energy resources and other cheaper methods of supplying water e.g western countries with high rainfall and low amounts of sunlight. It's cost-effective in Somalia because it has huge potential in Solar power and energy, tidal, wind and nuclear. Sure, it'll cost billions and we wouldn't see a windfall immediately. But like someone said, it's worth it to save millions of lives and provide a clean water source to not only people's households but to businesses who will help the economy grow. Better water/food supply and storage methods and healthcare will mean a bigger population. Bigger population means more tax revenue and a larger pool of educated and trained individuals to absorb into the workforce.

But that is also ignoring the huge amounts of underground aquifiers, especially in Northern Somalia. Extracting that would be our main source of water and desalination plants would only have to be complimentary for hundreds of years.
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Desalination becomes an option when you're an oil-rich Arab state with enough security to guarantee building and maintaining plants.

There are very simple alternatives that aren't such a reach like basic irrigation schemes on seasonal wadis, feed and water storage, using a little of that remittance revenue for a few wind turbines as an alternative energy source to precious-trees-into-coal instead of using it to buy Ethiopian/Kenyan khat, and agreeing on basic levels of humanity in warfare.
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There are thousands of alternatives. However, energy and food/water are different. Desalination would work in the arid and sun-scorched northern and central coasts of Somalia which has a very high average sunlight exposure. Wind power would also be useful in the North due to speeds being one of the fastest in the world and could be utilized to reliably power electricity in small towns and villages across the region. But those are not huge largescale projects and endeavours required to provide power, water and food to a whole nation. Somalia needs to utilize fossil fuels and once we've reached a state of maturity economically and technologically, we need to invest in nuclear power and hydrogen which is the future. Fossill fuels will slowly become, scarcer, more expensive and inefficient. Southern Somalia also has highly fertile and arable land with large rivers. It could be the breadbasket of the region, with investment in farming technology and knowhow. I'm already hearing of southerner businessmen and farmers using solar energy to desalinate and irrigate water to use for growing crops. It's encouraging and it shows they have more initiative than us northerners.

Somalia's a rich country run by apes. The huge amounts of currency that falls into the pockets of the ethiopian and kenyan governments through Khat imports could be life-changing. The billions of dolllars that flow in and out of the country thanks to remittance could be taxed and used to fund these projects. But the apes are not interested.
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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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many55 wrote:there is no famine in somalia , i am from jamaame near the river , food is available all year , its scam trust me
Yeah, everyone, don't worry it IS all just a big scam, trust him

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22380352
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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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Stop deforestation and start planting more trees. Somalis back home have no idea the amount of damage cutting trees for coal is actually creating.
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All am gonna say is FAO is on a mission and it is not in the interest of Somalia :lol:
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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Khalid Ali wrote:Oo No not this again , the whole world has to see Somalias ceeb again and the rest of the world is going donate to Somalia , how shameful it was back in 2011 we will have world leaders going to Somalia and Arab and Turkish officials oo isku ag sawirya caruur gaajoonaya how shameful

One would say with all the fertile land the 2 rivers how is it possible to have a famine.

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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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its man made and its behind by these so called leaders who control these regions. but these ppl should be taught to farm and fish and grow their own food and stop being posturalists, who move around and starve if there is no rain. also these gangsters and corrupt criminals that control the resources of these region should take the blame.
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Re: Famine declared in Somalia... again

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IRONm@N wrote:its man made and its behind by these so called leaders who control these regions. but these ppl should be taught to farm and fish and grow their own food and stop being posturalists, who move around and starve if there is no rain. also these gangsters and corrupt criminals that control the resources of these region should take the blame.
Farm where? Beesha Jareerweyne already owns those lands and have been growing like maxaa kaa galay in the last years :| . Native Ethnic Somalis on the other hand have been either dying of starvation or busy killing each other :(
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