Did you know that prophets Ciisa and Musa AS were black?

[JamalAddow]

Bukhari relates that Ibn Umar said:

“No! I swear by Allah that the prophet (pbuh) didn’t say that Jesus was light-skinned, but he said ‘While I was asleep, I was walking around the Kaaba when I saw an adam (black-skinned) man with non-kinky hair between two men. I asked who the man was and I was told that he was Isa (Jesus) the son of Meryem.’…” Sahih Bukhari - Book 60, Hadith 111


حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ الْمَكِّيُّ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ بْنَ سَعْدٍ قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي الزُّهْرِيُّ عَنْ سَالِمٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ قَالَ لَا وَاللَّهِ مَا قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لِعِيسَى أَحْمَرُ وَلَكِنْ قَالَ بَيْنَمَا أَنَا نَائِمٌ أَطُوفُ بِالْكَعْبَةِ فَإِذَا رَجُلٌ آدَمُ سَبْطُ الشَّعَرِ يُهَادَى بَيْنَ رَجُلَيْنِ يَنْطِفُ رَأْسُهُ مَاءً أَوْ يُهَرَاقُ رَأْسُهُ مَاءً فَقُلْتُ مَنْ هَذَا قَالُوا ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ


Ibn Abbas said that the prophet Mohamed (pbuh) described Musa’s (Moses’) appearance as follows:

أَمَّا مُوسَى فَرَجُلٌ آدَمُ جَعْدٌ

As for Musa (Moses), he was black-skinned and kinky-haired. (Muslim, hadith 243)

Here, Adam-complexioned means black-skinned. Fundamentally telling us the pre-islamic Arabs believed Adam AS was black. But we know from the hadiths that Adam AS was made from clay/dirt from all parts of the world, so we shouldn't speculate on this one.

And as for those who swear and look down at people with large noses and kinky hair, remember that you'll never amount to anything next to our prophets AS which some of the best were black.

There's nothing beautiful about Caucasian features while at the same time there's nothing ugly about black features.

[JamalAddow]

At the same time there were a lot of Sahaba ra that were black, and I'm not talking those with Habashi ancestry but the pure Arabs. For example, Zayd ibn Harithah who was the adopted son of the prophet pbuh, and many others. Most of the pure Arabs(Qahtanites) are really dark unlike the arabised arabs(Adnanite) which mixed even more with Syrians, Turks, Jews and middle-easterners just before and after Islam.

Islam came to rid of supremacy through lineage and skin-complexion, we shouldn't feel superior to anyone as that'll lead to arrogance which leads to hell.

[Basra-]

I am sorry--NO ONE WILL believe that crap. ALL prophets EXCEPT Muhammad saw---were descendant of the Judai--Tribe. Meaning, they were Jews. I don't know any Jews who is a native of the Galaleo land--who had features of a black man. Total crap.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

I am sorry--NO ONE WILL believe that crap. ALL prophets EXCEPT Muhammad saw---were descendant of the Judai--Tribe. Meaning, they were Jews. I don't know any Jews who is a native of the Galaleo land--who had features of a black man. Total crap.

so hadiith the Word of prophet sc is a Total Crap according to you faty basra ???

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal.

[Basra-]

Dr. Yala


The Hadith above is RIDICULOUS. I think it is FAKE. Words like "Kinky Hair" did not exist until 19th century. Get out of here waraa! ALl Prophets were Jews. Especially Prophet Musa saw. LOL

[jalaaludin5]

What difference does that makes?

Islam came to rid of supremacy through lineage and skin-complexion, we shouldn't feel superior to anyone as that'll lead to arrogance which leads to hell.

Obviously your trying to convince yourself that Arabs are not superior and as a black skinny... Ilaahay waad u siman tihiin.



There are lots of brothers that became so disillusioned with the impotence of Arabs and what's going on in the world today especially the middle east to the point where their belief-cage is rattled . Whether the prophets were Arabs or Mongols makes no difference. Their message is what's important and no amount of worthless black/brown or white shade should make a difference.

Besides, it's not like your black anyway.
Black is just a worthless color and a paint job for this shell of a body.
The soul is what counts so let me know if you have any info on the shade of our essence.

Stupid Somalis will soon be calling themselves black Muslims. inalilahi wainalilahi rajiun

[Phinks]

I call bullshit on this one.


Other racial groups were advancing in science/technology/medicine and building/conquering empires and expanding their cultural/religious influence while on the other hand, Africans were waiting for their dinner to fall from the trees and then going home to sleep in their makeshift huts made of cowshit.


Ah well.

[GeoSeven]

I didn't know about Issa but Moses' complexion is a no brainier. The Jews were in Egypt for half a millennium, Moses' progenitors had a span of 500 years to savour the native bronze skinned delicacies to their satisfaction.

[Basra-]

I call bullshit on this one.


Other racial groups were advancing in science/technology/medicine and building/conquering empires and expanding their cultural/religious influence while on the other hand, Africans were waiting for their dinner to fall from the trees and then going home to sleep in their makeshift huts made of cowshit.


Ah well.

Da truth!

[JamalAddow]

These are sahih hadiths which you can't actually argue against, and their original arabic is right there for anyone who understands it. And obviously you can search up the hadith number.

And for those ignorant racist comments, I'll make dua for youse.

[Phinks]

These are sahih hadiths which you can't actually argue against, and their original arabic is right there for anyone who understands it. And obviously you can search up the hadith number.

And for those ignorant racist comments, I'll make dua for youse.

Keep denying it.

[nasradiin32]

if the person can,t understand any part of hadith or quran "he /she should go and sit with ulama or islamic scholars and ask them "that what alah commands us "fasaluu ahla dikri"
translation between two languages always not same word by word "
when we look at the translation of faadam"it is not black it is between white and brown "
when the arabs and israels children born are white but when the person grew up specially in the middle east with hot sun his colour changes "brown"or similar because of sun nad heat

zaid bin haritha was not black but his son usama was because his mother was abasinian or habasha "peace be upon them all"

"basra"The Hadith is notRIDICULOUS. and it is not FAKE but the way he demonstrate is wrong"
وجاء من حديث ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما قوله صلى الله عليه وسلم: ( وأما موسى فآدم جسيم سبط كأنه من رجال الزط ) [رواه البخاري].

إذن فوصف موسى عليه السلام في هذه الأحاديث النبوية الشريفة يفيد أنه رجلٌ أسمر اللون جسيم البدن من غير سُمنة وأنه متناسق الشعر وأنه ذو مهابة. والرجل الذي في النقش، والذي نقول أنه موسى عليه السلام، يبدو أنه جَسيمٌ طويل القامة، وهذا قياساً على ضخامة وطول الرأس الذي يظهر في النقش ، ويبدو شعر رأسه متناسقاً وتبدو عليه المهابة والقوة واضحة

Came from Ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with them saying peace be upon him: (As Moses brown particle (huge)body like a tribe of men Zt) [Bukhari].

So Moses, peace be upon him, described in this hadith stating that the brown color man particle of the body is obese and that Harmonic hair and it is feared. The man who in the inscription, which say that Moses, it seems that particle tall, this analogy to the magnitude and the length of the head that appears in the engraving, and his hair seems consistent look and it prestige, power and clear
this is a correct meaning of hadith" hope understand

[JamalAddow]

Lool. Nigga there are different scholars, and they translate it in different ways. So you're allowed your opinion.

But the mainstream say adam means brown like the mud, and if it meant normal middle-eastern colour it'd have red-faced.

Actually the hadith negates the fact that Isa as was normal middle-eastern skin colour, but rather brown like dirt/mud.

Anyways, for Musa as the hadith says it has tight kinky hair, giving you hints of what he looks like.

[ZubeirAwal]

Aadam doesn't mean black, aadam meants the colour of sand/dirt, so you can say he was brown, just like most assyrians. As for Musa (AS), the hadith doesn't say he had kinky curls, it said he had curly hair and was dark brown, there is also another riwaya in which the prophet compares Musa to a tribe from southern Yemen.

[sahal80]

Bullshit!!

Jamal I advise you to learn more arabic before posting such a afro-centeric crap!!

Jacd is an arabic/semitic feature/malami3 arabiya asilah!!

It means to crul, its the opposite of sabt(stright) so adam had sabt hair while mose was ajcad

Here are the sources from lisan al arab, ibnu manzour etc


The black/jareer hair is called mofalfal/qatit
إِلاَّ أَن يكون قَطِطاً مُفَلْفَلاً كشعر الزَّنج والنُّوبة فهو حينئذ ذم؛ قال الراجز

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المعاني الجامع - معجم عربي عربي

أجعدُ ( اسم ):
الجمع : جُعْد ، المؤنث : جَعْداءُ ، و الجمع للمؤنث : جَعْداوات و جُعْد
صفة مشبَّهة تدلّ على الثبوت من جعُدَ
أَجْعَدُ ( اسم ):
أَجْعَدُ : فاعل من جَعُدَ
جَعُدَ ( فعل ):
جعُدَ يَجعُد ، جُعودةً وجَعادةً ، فهو جَعْد وأَجْعَدُ
جَعُدَ شَعْرُهُ : تَقَبَّضَ ، اِلْتَوَى ، تَلَبَّدَ
جَعُدَ : قَصُر
جَعَّدَ ( فعل ):
جعَّدَ يجعِّد ، تجعيدًا ، فهو مُجعِّد ، والمفعول مُجعَّد
( فعل : رباعي متعد ) جَعَّدَ ، يُجَعِّدُ ، مصدر تَجْعِيدٌ جَعَّدَ شَعْرَهُ : صَيَّرَهُ مُشَعَّثاً ، مُلَبَّداً ، جَعْداً
جَعَّدَ الشَّعرَ وغيره : جمعه
حَيْسٌ مُجَعَّدٌ : غليظ مجتمع
جعَّدَ ( فعل ):
جعَّد الشَّعرَ : لواه وثناه
جعَّد وجهَه : جعل فيه غضونًا ، أزال منه النَّضارة والحيويّة جعَّدت وجهَه متاعبُ الحياة ،
جعَّد القماشَ

[ سبط ]

سبط : السبط والسبط والسبط : نقيض الجعد ، والجمع سباط ؛ قال سيبويه : هو الأكثر فيما كان على فعل صفة ، وقد سبط سبوطا وسبوطة وسباطة وسبطا ؛ الأخيرة عن سيبويه ، والسبط : الشعر الذي لا جعودة فيه . وشعر سبط وسبط : مسترسل غير جعد . ورجل سبط الشعر وسبطه وقد سبط شعره ، بالكسر ، يسبط سبطا . وفي الحديث في صفة شعره : ليس بالسبط ولا بالجعد القطط ؛ السبط من الشعر : المنبسط المسترسل ، والقطط : الشديد الجعودة ، أي كان شعره وسطا بينهما . ورجل سبط الجسم وسبطه طويل الألواح مستويها بين السباطة ، مثل فخذ وفخذ ، من قوم سباط إذا كان حسن القد والاستواء ؛ قال الشاعر :

فجاءت به سبط العظام كأنما عمامته ، بين الرجال ، لواء

ورجل سبط بالمعروف : سهل ، وقد سبط سباطة وسبط سبطا ، ولغة أهل الحجاز : رجل سبط الشعر وامرأة سبطة . ورجل سبط اليدين بين السبوطة : سخي سمح الكفين ؛ قال حسان :


Blacks hair is called mofalfal, ja3d/jacd is common in the arabs, semites, southren europians

Most of somalis hair falls under jacd, some habasha its not a black hair at all! Its a unique hair of its own!.

قال المبرد: "العرب كانت تفتخر بالسمرة و السواد و كانت تكره الحمرة و الشقرة".

قال ابن منظور في لسان العرب: "سبوطة‏ ‏الشعر‏ ‏هي‏ ‏الغالبة‏ ‏‏على‏ ‏شعور‏ ‏العجم‏ ‏من‏ ‏الروم‏ ‏و‏ ‏الفرس.‏ ‏و‏ ‏جعودة‏ ‏الشعر‏ ‏هي‏ ‏الغالبة‏ ‏على‏ ‏شعور‏ ‏العرب"


ماذا ترى غير عربي في ملامحه؟



في لسان العرب



ْ قال الأَزهري: إذا كان الرجل مداخَلاً مُدْمَج الخلق أَي معصوباً فهو أَشد لأَسره وأَخف إِلى منازلة الأَقران، وإِذا اضطرب خلقه وأَفرط في طوله فهو إِلى الاسترخاءِ ما هو. وفي الحديث: على ناقة جَعْدة أَي مجتمعة الخلق شديدة. والجَعْد إذا ذهب به مذهب المدح فله معنيان مستحبان: أَحدهما أَن يكون معصوب الجوارح شديد الأَسر والخلق غير مسترخ ولا مضطرب، والثاني أَن يكون شعره جعداً غير سبط لأَن سبوطة الشعر هي الغالبة على شعور العجم من الروم والفرس، وجُعودة الشعر هي الغالبة على شعور العرب، فإِذا مدح الرجل بالجعد لم يخرج عن هذين المعنيين. وأَما الجعد المذموم فله أَيضاً معنيان كلاهما منفي عمن يمدح: أَحدهما أَن يقال رجل جعد إذا كان قصيراً متردد الخلق، والثاني أَن يقال رجل جعد إذا كان بخيلاً لئيماً لا يَبِضُّ حَجَره، وإِذا قالوا رجل جعد السبوطة فهو مدح، إِلاَّ أَن يكون قَطِطاً مُفَلْفَلاً كشعر الزَّنج والنُّوبة فهو حينئذ ذم؛ قال الراجز: