The madness that is Khaatumo...

[Salah Al-Din]

I just watched two videos that made me start to doubt the mental state of the leaders of Khaatumo.

The first video is about using suicide as a form of resistance. This made me think, they are ready to commit acts of terror on a peaceful population. Start listening to the video from the 4 minute mark, at the 4:30 mark the Grand Garad will declare their intention to start exploding themselves as a tactic.



The second video is about the new state of the relations between the citizens of Sool and those of Maroodijeex. The former Khatumo president declares that they have no relations, not Somalinimo, not Islamnimo, not anything at all. Listen from the 2:14 mark.




It doesn't make sense. If the people within Somaliland do not share Somalinimo & Islamnimo how in the world are they asking to keep the former Somali Republic united? If using terrorism like Al-Shabaab is a good thing how come it hasn't helped our neigbhour Somalia become peaceful? How is Ali Khalif becoming a warlord going to change anything on the ground?

Khatumo is an administration in name only just like Awdal State, Maakhir State and any other so called state inside the Terrirtory of the Republic of Somaliland.

There is one way to settle all these disputes and that is through the ballot box. Two independent states joined in 1960*Somaliland & Somalia), to form the former Somali Republic. All that needs to happen is to hold a UN supervised referendum in Somaliland to find out whether the majority want to keep their Sovereignty or to return to the former union with Somalia under the former Somali Republic. The voice of the majority of the citizens will determine this debate in a civilized way. Committing suicide and becoming a new warlord in the 21st century is not a solution.

We have examples in Africa which resemble the Somaliland/Somalia situation. This example is Eritrea. There are many ethnicities that live in Eritrea, just like there are a plethora of clans that live in Somaliland. The Afars that live in Eritrea were categorically opposed to the independence of Eritrea. Once the referendum was done and the majority opted to vote for independence the Afars had no choice but to submit. The minority cannot hold the majority as ransom.

[MarsinQorahay]

Khatumo state is a state recognized by the government in central Somalia ( Mogadishu ) and the UN, the UN told the SNM thugs to clear out from saaxdheer and occupied territories of Khatumo State which means that there is no Somaliland and the UN only recognize Somalia, next place to free will be Maakhir and Awdal right after inshallah, Mogadishu wins, unrecognized burco loses.

[Xildiiid]

Somaliland was never part of Somalia. The UN has no leverage when it comes to SL and these militias will be wiped out.

[lasanodboi]

So men defending their cities and their people from genocide are the mad ones ? yet they ones making the attack are the good ones what a retard. Yes they are right we will figth like the Palestians and use every mean. And in that they have the support of our people from the children to the old people. The decision of Khaatumo state is one we will never return from even if that means not a single one of us will be alive. We are noble men mujahedin this is Jihaad Islam is allowing us to defend your house the men from Somaliland will burn in hell for commiting a crime aganist inocent people, while paradise is waiting for reer Khaatumo dying for Justice. I and my people spit on Somaliland and everything it stands for. We dont want anything to do with you or your Qudhmis project how many times are we going to say it ?

[Xildiiid]

Your people are minority in Sanaag, they don't have one district. In other words, they can't claim that region. I laugh everytime Cali Bile claims Ceerigaabo.

Your people have no legitimate claims to 50% of Sool. The most populous district is Caynaba, inhabited by Isaaq.

Your people have no leverage in Buhoodle district since the majority in that district is Isaaq.

Your leaders can try to create a fake political narrative but it won't compensate for the lack of legitimacy on the ground.

I hope your people wage war. They'll get the lesson they should've got in the 90's when my useless clan the HJ, stopped my reer abti the HY, from annihilating you, out of humanity and deris wanaag but your people are Doofaar Ismaaciil, doofaarkuna abidkii ma daahiro. Kibir baad ka qaadeen but we'll see where it ends. Mogadishu and the gudhuus from Zoomalia won't be able to do shit for you, not even the international community.

[SecretAgent]

Its about oil and expansion for somaliland and clannish for puntland dhulos lose both ways. Xildiid sanag is divided into 2 gobals now 1 for isaaq 1 for hartis with capital shared.

[SecretAgent]

Yalaxow silanyo is not a warlord hes the most pro dhulo president he made taleex new gobal and dhulos have 6mps in erigoba city,hargeisa governor is also a dhulo. Silanyo support comes from hj,hartis,western hy,eastern habar awals.

[Corruption1]

here is a quick guide to step by step ways of Humiliating yourself

[1] Come to S/land

[2] Get chased and run away from Taleex, then run away from saaxdheer

[3] Hide in the bushes

[4] make a youtube inside the bushes

[Xildiiid]

Secret,

Ceerigaabo is not shared. There's a majority and a minority who pushed their luck in the 80's during Afweyne regime and today they live there under the mercy of Isaaq who let them return.

[Xildiiid]

here is a quick guide to step by step ways of Humiliating yourself

[1] Come to S/land

[2] Get chased and run away from Taleex, then run away from saaxdheer

[3] Hide in the bushes

[4] make a youtube inside the bushes

[SecretAgent]

Secret,

Ceerigaabo is not shared. There's a majority and a minority who pushed their luck in the 80's during Afweyne regime and today they live there under the mercy of Isaaq who let them return.

they have their own gobal east sanag they never went anywhere!

[Xildiiid]

Secret,

Ceerigaabo is not shared. There's a majority and a minority who pushed their luck in the 80's during Afweyne regime and today they live there under the mercy of Isaaq who let them return.

they have their own gobal east sanag they never went anywhere!

In the 90's muj. Axmed Mire chased them out and gave them a proper lesson. They're still shook of him even the ones that live with him in the west.

The Warsangeli have their 2-3 districts in eastern Sanaag or the new gobol called Maakhir but Cerigaabo is not shared in any sense and the Dhilbahante are a voiceless minority in Sanaag.

[Ismail87]

Your people are minority in Sanaag, they don't have one district. In other words, they can't claim that region. I laugh everytime Cali Bile claims Ceerigaabo.

Your people have no legitimate claims to 50% of Sool. The most populous district is Caynaba, inhabited by Isaaq.

Your people have no leverage in Buhoodle district since the majority in that district is Isaaq.

Your leaders can try to create a fake political narrative but it won't compensate for the lack of legitimacy on the ground.

Lay down that Christania pipe.

According to the new SL regions we are a clear majority in 3 regions while the sanaag region is shared :pac

At least 3/4 of Sool is Dhulbahante territory and since SL divided the Sool region into Saraar and Sool the only Isaaq that live in Sool are ducaysane's folks in Bohol town. Caynaba district is not 50% of Sool as for the buuhoodle district coodanle and qorilugud moyaane meel kale sheego

Despite all the lies being told here, we all know what happened, Khatumo is still present in Saaxdheer and its surroundings.

Salah Al Din, here's a better idea, you guys can go and vote for an independent Somaliland but we are staying with Somalia.

[Xildiiid]

Ismaaciil Faqash,

Let's have a serious discussion, shall we?

1. I'm not talking about the regions created by Riyaale and cemented by Silaanyo in order to appease different clans. I'm talking about the original regions since my aim is to disprove the fallacious logic of Khaatumo and the federalism project promoted by Zoomalia.

2. When we talk about the original regions, Saraar is part of Sool which makes the region, land wise, 1/3 Isaaq and population wise 45-50%.

3. Sanaag has a clear Isaaq majority. The capital Cerigaabo also being Isaaq majority. Your clan doesn't even have 1 district so how can they claim Sanaag?

4. Buhoodle is part of Togdheer since there's no such thing as Cayn (Cayn is a term applied to the surrounding areas of Caynaba). Apart from that dusty town, Khaatumo has no leverage in that district.

5. Now for arguments sake, if we apply the federalism model;

- How is Khaatumo going to create a federal state when they're only ''majority'' in one region (Sool)?

Ironically the same ''constitution'' that Cali Bile adheres to goes against his futile efforts. If he was serious and not driven by a clanist agenda, there are far more powerful clans living in Sool with his clan and he would open a dialogue if he was a sincere ''nationalists'' as he claims but we all know what he is.

6. The areas your people inhabit was never part of Somalia. If SL officially regains its sovereignty, the border with Zoomalia will be based on the Anglo-Italian treaty just like the border with Djibouti is based on the Anglo-French treaty and there's nothing your people can do about it. If they step out of line afkaa laga tooganeyaa.

Btw. Cali Bile is not in Saaxdheer but Ethiopia and he's crying like a Bitch.

Silaanyo is too weak but if I was president I would chase him down myself and shoot him in the neck, dadkaagana edaab baan bari lahaa.

[Ismail87]

Ismaaciil Faqash,

Let's have a serious discussion, shall we?

1. I'm not talking about the regions created by Riyaale and cemented by Silaanyo in order to appease different clans. I'm talking about the original regions since my aim is to disprove the fallacious logic of Khaatumo and the federalism project promoted by Zoomalia. You mean the original regions of the country you were never a part of? on one hand you are denying that Somaliland was a part and parcel of the Somali Republic and on the other hand you want to use their regions in this argument? Bal dhinac isu raac adigu

2. When we talk about the original regions, Saraar is part of Sool which makes the region, land wise, 1/3 Isaaq and population wise 45-50%. The Caynaba district is no where near 50% of Sool and you know it and I'll tell you again stop using the regions of the country you were never part of. Saraar is your region, embrace the regions created by your non faqash regime.

3. Sanaag has a clear Isaaq majority. The capital Cerigaabo also being Isaaq majority. Your clan doesn't even have 1 district so how can they claim Sanaag?If your clan is Isaaq then my clan is Harti and we settle the biggest towns in Sanaag, including Ceerigaabo.

4. Buhoodle is part of Togdheer since there's no such thing as Cayn (Cayn is a term applied to the surrounding areas of Caynaba). Apart from that dusty town, Khaatumo has no leverage in that district. you didn't mention Togdheer or Cayn in your earlier comment, you clearly said that the Buuhoodle district has an Isaaq majority when you settle two tiny villages on the western side.

5. Now for arguments sake, if we apply the federalism model;

- How is Khaatumo going to create a federal state when they're only ''majority'' in one region (Sool)?

Ironically the same ''constitution'' that Cali Bile adheres to goes against his futile efforts. If he was serious and not driven by a clanist agenda, there are far more powerful clans living in Sool with his clan and he would open a dialogue if he was a sincere ''nationalists'' as he claims but we all know what he is.

6. The areas your people inhabit was never part of Somalia. If SL officially regains its sovereignty, the border with Zoomalia will be based on the Anglo-Italian treaty just like the border with Djibouti is based on the Anglo-French treaty and there's nothing your people can do about it. If they step out of line afkaa laga tooganeyaa.

7. Cali Bile is not in Saaxdheer but Ethiopia and he's crying like a Bitch.

Silaanyo is too weak but if I was president I would chase him down myself and shoot him in the neck, dadkaagana edaab baan bari lahaa.

Everything else you've said is cabaad iyo nacnac. As long as we REMAIN a part of Somalia waxba igama gelin whether we qualify as a federal state or not.