White girl and the Somali Clans !!

[Deqa111]

white girls wrote this offensive remarks !

First of all, i just want to emphasize that this thread is not meant to elicit any provocation against Somalis of this forum, it is only meant to determine if my own stereotypical observation of the different clans of Somalis is also consistent with how different Somalis clans perceive each other.

Darood

Darood seems to show a tendency of arrogance and a paternalistic attitude toward other clans of Somalia, and they perceive them selves as the Alpha-Omega and king makers of the country. furthermore, they consider people from the Hawiye clan in particular as hillbilly while they see them selves as sophisticated and street smart city people. An acquaintance of mine who hails from the darood clan for instance, told me jokingly that in Bosaso, the locals don't do nothing but chewing chat and relaxing while hard and manual labor is done by Hawiye, he even took his own mother as an example and boastfully, he claimed she has 2 hawiye house maid to maintain her needs.


Isaac

Most of the Somalis i know hails from the Isaac and i get along with them very well. During the course of our discussion in reference to the somali people in general , they label people south of Somaliland as Dangerous and unpredictable and the same time, they admire the same people as risk takers and bold. a Half Yemeni and Half Somali once told, among the somali clan, isaac are very trustworthy and they understand a deal is a deal regardless how you flip flap it while other somalis try to change the rule of the game after the deal which eventually ends with either physical or verbal confrontation. On the down side, according to him, The isaac are very liberal, once they arrive in the west, they try to act and behave more Europeans than the Europeans themselves.

Hawiye

Very conservative, and above the surface, they try to project themselves as God fearing and religious people. a feeling of victimization among the hawiye toward their Northern kinship in particular Darood is evident.

Dir

I have encountered 3 Dir Somalis in my life

[waraabe251]

his reads like something of a lord of the rings legendarium. the isaaq are the superior cultured high elves, the darood majerteen/warsangeli being the powerhungry egotistical humans, the ogaden being the brutish orcs, etc

I agree but what is missing is that north of the peninsula was always controlled by isaaq while the south is controlled by hawiye

so in essence the two dominant somali qabiils/clans are isaaq and hawiye who have always had the control position, we have darood who became known in 1960 ( they are not wealthy or as influential as other qabils) trying to establish themselves as big player in somali affairs, hence they always have sided with anti somali crusaders and even invited xabashi soliders to take revenge on hawiye in 2006 as hawiye always oppressed them, lets not forget they got white south african pilots and mercenaries to fight isaaq and still lost.

Dir is the third most dominant and influential somali clan after hawiye and isaaq, they are the third wealthest (isaaq the richest and then hawiye) issa is the richest sub clan and gadabuursi is the most educated sub clan.

[incognito1]

DAROOD= ESSAY

ISAAQ= ESSAY

HAWIYE= A SENTENCE

YOUR NOT BIASED AT ALL, THANKS FOR BEING SO OBJECTIVE

[zumaale]

his reads like something of a lord of the rings legendarium. the isaaq are the superior cultured high elves, the darood majerteen/warsangeli being the powerhungry egotistical humans, the ogaden being the brutish orcs, etc

I agree but what is missing is that north of the peninsula was always controlled by isaaq while the south is controlled by hawiye

so in essence the two dominant somali qabiils/clans are isaaq and hawiye who have always had the control position, we have darood who became known in 1960 ( they are not wealthy or as influential as other qabils) trying to establish themselves as big player in somali affairs, hence they always have sided with anti somali crusaders and even invited xabashi soliders to take revenge on hawiye in 2006 as hawiye always oppressed them, lets not forget they got white south african pilots and mercenaries to fight isaaq and still lost.

Dir is the third most dominant and influential somali clan after hawiye and isaaq, they are the third wealthest (isaaq the richest and then hawiye) issa is the richest sub clan and gadabuursi is the most educated sub clan.

Warabe, I like how Isaaqs like you speak up for Dir. Stop the act and Irjaac Ila Aslaak. Maxa no kala saare?

[waraabe251]

his reads like something of a lord of the rings legendarium. the isaaq are the superior cultured high elves, the darood majerteen/warsangeli being the powerhungry egotistical humans, the ogaden being the brutish orcs, etc

I agree but what is missing is that north of the peninsula was always controlled by isaaq while the south is controlled by hawiye

so in essence the two dominant somali qabiils/clans are isaaq and hawiye who have always had the control position, we have darood who became known in 1960 ( they are not wealthy or as influential as other qabils) trying to establish themselves as big player in somali affairs, hence they always have sided with anti somali crusaders and even invited xabashi soliders to take revenge on hawiye in 2006 as hawiye always oppressed them, lets not forget they got white south african pilots and mercenaries to fight isaaq and still lost.

Dir is the third most dominant and influential somali clan after hawiye and isaaq, they are the third wealthest (isaaq the richest and then hawiye) issa is the richest sub clan and gadabuursi is the most educated sub clan.

Warabe, I like how Isaaqs like you speak up for Dir. Stop the act and Irjaac Ila Aslaak. Maxa no kala saare?

dir are cool people and they are in my family as well as my neighbors but they need to start following us and stop always submitting to outsiders

[Even123]

white girls wrote this offensive remarks !

First of all, i just want to emphasize that this thread is not meant to elicit any provocation against Somalis of this forum, it is only meant to determine if my own stereotypical observation of the different clans of Somalis is also consistent with how different Somalis clans perceive each other.

Darood

Darood seems to show a tendency of arrogance and a paternalistic attitude toward other clans of Somalia, and they perceive them selves as the Alpha-Omega and king makers of the country. furthermore, they consider people from the Hawiye clan in particular as hillbilly while they see them selves as sophisticated and street smart city people. An acquaintance of mine who hails from the darood clan for instance, told me jokingly that in Bosaso,the locals don't do nothing but chewing chat and relaxing while hard and manual labor is done by Hawiye, he even took his own mother as an example and boastfully, he claimed she has 2 hawiye house maid to maintain her needs.

Isaac

Most of the Somalis i know hails from the Isaac and i get along with them very well. During the course of our discussion in reference to the somali people in general , they label people south of Somaliland as Dangerous and unpredictable and the same time, they admire the same people as risk takers and bold. a Half Yemeni and Half Somali once told, among the somali clan, isaac are very trustworthy and they understand a deal is a deal regardless how you flip flap it while other somalis try to change the rule of the game after the deal which eventually ends with either physical or verbal confrontation. On the down side, according to him, The isaac are very liberal, once they arrive in the west, they try to act and behave more Europeans than the Europeans themselves.

Hawiye

Very conservative, and above the surface, they try to project themselves as God fearing and religious people. a feeling of victimization among the hawiye toward their Northern kinship in particular Darood is evident.

Dir

I have encountered 3 Dir Somalis in my life

Wallahi this must one of the most Biased and Offensive thread i have ever read, its evidently clear that you are Darood (which i have no prob with), but please don't ever generalize us Hawiye again, and just for the sake of asking (by the way, i have been to Garowe,Bossaso and Galkacyo, and i know all there is to know about Puntland, so dont lie to me) which of the so called Hawiye's clans have you and your ''acquaintance'' seen in bossasso, name me one sub Clan you have seen that labours or serves your beesha in the name of Hawiye, i dare you, NAME ME ONE (pretty please, say HG or Mudolood).


There are Four things you will definitly always see in Puntland (and i know those that have been to Puntland will concur with me);

1.Beggers, (all are D&M)
2.Labours and Shoe shiners, (They are all Jareer)
3.Puntlanders sitting outside in mass in every corner watching SNTV ''hillbilly' 'Hawiye politics with envious eyes.
4.and Goats, everywhere you go in puntland there is goats all about.

Im in Garowe right now, and there is only 3 Hawiye, which is me (HG), abgaal masjid leader, and Duduble that works for puntland dowlada hoose.

As for Hawiye's feeling like Victims, oooooh Please ,.........................we all know who's title that is in Somalia.

[zumaale]

Warabe, I like how Isaaqs like you speak up for Dir. Stop the act and Irjaac Ila Aslaak. Maxa no kala saare?[/quote]

dir are cool people and they are in my family as well as my neighbors but they need to start following us and stop always submitting to outsiders[/quote]

Warabe, only the Samaroons followed Siyad Barre, the Issa and Southern Dir offered what they could if not moral support. Marka, where is this they should not follow outsiders coming from. Man, if you guys threw your heart in the ring and nominated yourselves for presidency of Somalia, we would all vote for you.

[theyuusuf143]

Darood

Darood seems to show a tendency of arrogance and a paternalistic attitude toward other clans of Somalia, and they perceive them selves as the Alpha-Omega and king makers of the country.

its true that daroods are politically the most influencial somali clan in the horn (somalia,ethiopia,Somaliland and kenya) although they rule none of the those countries . if you ask any isaaq tigray hawiye or kikuyu rulers whats the most difficult political situation you are dealing with ? he/she will defenitely tell you something about daarood rebellion.

a Half Yemeni and Half Somali once told, among the somali clan, isaac are very trustworthy and they understand a deal is a deal regardless how you flip flap it while other somalis try to change the rule of the game after the deal which eventually ends with either physical or verbal confrontation. On the down side, according to him, The isaac are very liberal, once they arrive in the west, they try to act and behave more Europeans than the Europeans themselves.

From my personal point of view thats true. Isaaqs are honest and trustworthy and yes they are liberal compare to many other somali clans. isaaqs are usually seem very humble and naive towards particular clans which they share something (dhulbahante,samaroon and some Ogs ) thats mainly related to their Somaliland nationslism and some other cultural reasons. take that as a sign of peace and love but dont try to fool them.

Dir

Unlike the isaaqs the dir particularly isse are naturaly very sweet towards all humans not just for particular people or clans. most somalis love and respect their dir brothers and they too harm no body. Dir unity is not as strong as the isaaqs or daarods and you may sometimes confuse who is dir and who is not they only share leanage but not a lot about politics nationality and culture.

Hawiye
Very conservative, and above the surface, they try to project themselves as God fearing and religious people. a feeling of victimization among the hawiye toward their Northern kinship in particular Darood is evident.

in my experince hawiyes are socially the least qabiilist people although they fight the most about qabiil, i have never seen hawiyes laabta garaacanaya . unlike other clans only small percentage of hawiyes are well aware of the current political situationn back home. and they are the least nationalistic ask any hawiye when are you going back to home ? he/she will say to you I am not going there kkkk you can rarely see any isaq or darod who are not interested back home. Hawiyes can integrate to any society on earth.

[incognito1]

the division between darood has been a blessing to its enemies,
somaliland exists because of it, and hawiye has gotten much from the power vacuum.

without majeerteens hate of mareexan power would darood hegemony ever be challenged?

never ever ever period!!!!!

without dhulbahante& Warsengeli betrayal would there ever be a somaliland?

neveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer!!!

without ogadeens unwillingness to fight would hawiye get to the weapon stockpile they use to subjugate the south?

absolutely not.

without mareexan cooperation would hawiye gain a foot hold in the luscious south?

never!!!!

so you see even at our weakest we had to aid you in furthering our demise sad .

since the creation of the somali state there was one government that wasnt led by darood, and it was a puppet state left behind by the italians to suck the land of its resources. while the people starved, it took a darood to realise this and nationalized every single thing. while at the same time creating a nation that made history, hawiye and isaaq speak of it until this day.

now darood is back again on top of things while still at war with itself lool, in a short time it created the federal system that somalia will be ruled by, it created juballand a land so beautiful many hawiye died for it in vein.

now our abgaal brothers are working with us, but isaaq doesnt want to be dominated. he wants to hold on to somaliland because in somaliland he is majority lool, but darood, hawiye and the world are telling them no no no no. on top of that khatumo that came about yesterday is recognized hahahaha, and borama has always said its part of somalia. so what does that leave burco, hargeysa and barbara could the triangle be a power onto itself naaah. but we can all dream right yes we can yes we can

[thehappyone]

Wallahi this must one of the most Biased and Offensive thread i have ever read, its evidently clear that you are Darood (which i have no prob with), but please don't ever generalize us Hawiye again, and just for the sake of asking (by the way, i have been to Garowe,Bossaso and Galkacyo, and i know all there is to know about Puntland, so dont lie to me) which of the so called Hawiye's clans have you and your ''acquaintance'' seen in bossasso, name me one sub Clan you have seen that labours or serves your beesha in the name of Hawiye, i dare you, NAME ME ONE (pretty please, say HG or Mudolood).


There are Four things you will definitly always see in Puntland (and i know those that have been to Puntland will concur with me);

1.Beggers, (all are D&M)
2.Labours and Shoe shiners, (They are all Jareer)
3.Puntlanders sitting outside in mass in every corner watching SNTV ''hillbilly' 'Hawiye politics with envious eyes.
4.and Goats, everywhere you go in puntland there is goats all about.

Im in Garowe right now, and there is only 3 Hawiye, which is me (HG), abgaal masjid leader, and Duduble that works for puntland dowlada hoose.

As for Hawiye's feeling like Victims, oooooh Please ,.........................we all know who's title that is in Somalia.

I apologise for calling you a sheegato

[LobsterUnit]

Walahi, meeshan xoolo ka buuxa.why get emotional about wax gabadh cad qortay?smh.i bet deqa made wrote this himself.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

And why on god's green earth should I give a shit about the opinion of some cadaan woman? Yaa ilaahi, it's like I have been dropped onto the set of planet of the apes and they're all falling over themselves to look good in front of gaalo. This deeqa creature suffers from a big inferiority complex.

[YummyMummy]

^ walal I find you most amusing, sincerely wallahi, xumaan ha iga moodin

Every Isaaq-bashing thread, Somali-development (and bashing) thread, Somali-woman-bashing thread, Somali-men-bashing thread, "wan gaalowbeye kaalaya idaawada"-bashing thread, "wan isqarxinayaaye kaalaya idaawada"-bashing thread, "my ancestors graveyard is larger than yours"-bashing thread... waligaa intad soo istaagtid bad adoo woojiga cambusan oo huruufayya tidhahdaa "why should I give a damn?", oo why bad u soo gashay?

And no I didn't see your face, but that's what comes to mind whenever I see your name posting on the Board Index

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

If you see something wrong you should point it out. I see something wrong with somali caring about the opinion of an irrelevant cadaan woman (if she even exists and is not this deeqa creature).

[YummyMummy]

waa sax walal