Saints and Whores
Sweeping statements or generalizations don’t sit well with me. I have heard it said on multiple occasions, many if not the majority of Somali girls are down for the count. The popular euphemism out here is “bout it,” which if you are not aware the term implies they are easy or morally flexible. Whatever that denotes? Anyway I try to be objective and remove myself from the equation, so as not to infer bias. I just wish to gain insight like a clinician via personal distance. So I probe my male cousins who seem to be self-proclaimed experts on the topic of Somali females. They explain an 80-20 rule, where 80% of them are “damaged goods” or “bad” and the remaining 20% are “good girls” clearly less riddled with baggage like their damaged sisters. They seem quite confident, although the statistical rigour and validity of their claim comes into question. That and the terms good and bad are subjective and seen in juxtaposition. I have noticed there is no spectrum in their definition and I doubt they see a continuum.
I call into question how they perceive their female relatives and they reply “they are family, so we care about what they are up to but if we aren’t related to them why should they be our problem.”
I then state that girls which aren’t your family are someone’s family. They have people they are accountable to and for i.e. their father, mother, siblings and extended relatives etc. They may or may not be conscious of this all the time. It may not be our business what they are up to, as we outsource them as someone else’s concern. We fall into the trappings of societal individualism of the west, it seems. Anyway, it’s important to understand that irrespective of their past (good or bad) they will likely get married and be someone’s wife. We tend to bad mouth these girls for their unfettered sexuality, or allowing some guy sexual access without marriage. However, we say nothing of the boys who fit into the same category. In fact wider society tends to congratulate that sort of behaviour.
I then asked them would you like to contribute to baggage of a Somali girl, with a “hit and run” or would you rather have a clear conscience and some sexual restraint and carry on? Also, these girls which are thought of as “bad,” what if they end up marrying into your family, or if their child does in the future. That’s when life throws a curve ball. Poetic Justice!
The reality of the matter is it is hard to have an open and honest conversation about what is taboo i.e. sexuality, to do so almost seems as though one is encouraging licentious behaviour, rather than curtailing it. Truth be told there are Somali girls who have never compromised their dignity and integrity to win the affections of a man i.e. given up the goods. And to those that have, we should stop being judgemental and help to push them in the right direction, rather than apathetically wincing or shrugging it off. Exclaiming I’m not their hooyo, or aabo it isn’t my problem.
We are all connected, it should be our problem.
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Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
Whenever this topic comes up I have to make a reference to my post. Face palm.
Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
I said they could end getting used as a cum bucket if they sleep with men that view them strictly as a booty call, for instance, on a one night stand. Why do you think the stereotypical 'he didn't cuddle and put on his trousers' line exists.KnowThySelf23 wrote:@zuumale i agree with you on most of the first post.....and i didn't exactly single out the somali community, i was talking about the general public. but you and every farax needs to stop equating non virgin...with whore. generally anon virgin woman doesnt fuck anything with heart beat so why would you even think of calling them a cum bucket? if your i a relationship with ONE man and you have sex during that relationship...how does that make you a slut or a cum bucket? i dint even.....whatever. and i get that men are dogs that like to stick their micro penis in anything with a hole....but that doesn't make them any less slutty....im sick of men getting a pass, but as you said...its the way this fucked up society works. and that last line i totally agree with, if you are a virgin then you have the right to ask for one...if you aren't then you have lost the right to demand one...
@keyblade preach!!
Secondly, many western women and Somalis who have adopted western norms experiment sexually in their late teens and early twenties. It is not like they do not engage in one night stands.
Lastly, read my reply to phinks and you will clearly observe I did not equate non virgin with whore. I did say you could have a sister who had made a mistake once and repented should not be viewed Somali whore. A woman's attributes are more than her sexual purity but it does rank high among us traditionally minded Somalis.
As for men getting a free ride, that was never in question, another synonym for slut is 'man'. Apart from a few noble ones, most of us like nothing h better to do than go forth and hit that ass. It is biological, if we do not have sex for a fortnight or so, our testicles get full with semen and it is got to come out one way or another.
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'Weey dhilode' is still a term used in the Somali language to refer to a girl who put out before nikax and that cultural mindset still features among some Somalis in the diaspora. It has no religious foundation as all fornicators are called zani. However, chaste maidens are praised in the Quran and they are one of the rewards that awaits pious martyrs in Janna.
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
I think you should narrow down you choice. Remove the unnecessary pre-qualifications You don't need to get married to a somali. If you were born and bred in the west, I think you've got a pretty large pool.sophisticate wrote:Hello Phinks,
You must understand that the older you get the harder it is to find someone your age that's like that. Women have it harder than you, since men are encouraged to be cads. So I ask, what is a lady in similar straits to do? Should she shun the manwhores (a guy with at least 1 sexual encounter) and decide to never get married. I'm leaning toward that at the moment. I'll resign myself to academia. It's hard enough to relate to my peers as it is.
Peace.
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
that's why i will make sure my future wife is a legally certified authentic virgin, because in addition to a medical test, she would have to pass a lie detector test, psychological & behavioral test. i'm willing to pay $50k for these verifications.
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
You're going to ask your future wife to do what?jamal9 wrote:that's why i will make sure my future wife is a legally certified authentic virgin, because in addition to a medical test, she would have to pass a lie detector test, psychological & behavioral test. i'm willing to pay $50k for these verifications.

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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
Agreed. It's interesting how certain obscure aspects of Somali culture still remain among the diaspora.zumaale wrote:Keyblade
'Weey dhilode' is still a term used in the Somali language to refer to a girl who put out before nikax and that cultural mindset still features among some Somalis in the diaspora. It has no religious foundation as all fornicators are called zani. However, chaste maidens are praised in the Quran and they are one of the rewards that awaits pious martyrs in Janna.
@KTS, no worries
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
jamal9 wrote:that's why i will make sure my future wife is a legally certified authentic virgin, because in addition to a medical test, she would have to pass a lie detector test, psychological & behavioral test. i'm willing to pay $50k for these verifications.

Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
All it takes is for you to have an argument while watching a football game in sports cafe and to be put down by a 'We gang banged your wife nigga and she swallowed!'

Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
as long as she uses vagisil and washes her mouth with Listerine she is good to go 
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
Let's be real, all of you faraaxs all it takes is a pretty chick to smile at you and you will marry her. Most of you are weak. A smile and a pretty face remember that.
Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
^ garoweboy who's that man in the gif u posted i like his afro and mosutache
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
BeyondQabil, we are not all the same if that is your cup of tea go for it. I was born and bred abroad but I have discriminating taste and a great affinity for someone like myself. I like what a like and will not be persuaded otherwise.BeyondQabil wrote:I think you should narrow down you choice. Remove the unnecessary pre-qualifications You don't need to get married to a somali. If you were born and bred in the west, I think you've got a pretty large pool.sophisticate wrote:Hello Phinks,
You must understand that the older you get the harder it is to find someone your age that's like that. Women have it harder than you, since men are encouraged to be cads. So I ask, what is a lady in similar straits to do? Should she shun the manwhores (a guy with at least 1 sexual encounter) and decide to never get married. I'm leaning toward that at the moment. I'll resign myself to academia. It's hard enough to relate to my peers as it is.
Peace.
Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
Anybody heard of this story in Minneapolis where a successful financial analyst Somali guy married a semi hijabi former busdown and just 1 year in she got impregnated by liberian guy of all people. The things some of these hoes doing smh
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
So can a guy explain the high net-worth of virginity?
I'm curious because of the way some of you talk about it, it's like "I gotta make sure they're authentic Nike"
I'm curious because of the way some of you talk about it, it's like "I gotta make sure they're authentic Nike"
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Re: Addressing the Elephant in the Room.
Loose females belong with loose males. Righteous ladies with righteous Men. Or just marry your "cousins"/tol to make your life easier/safer.....
Yummy, Virginity indicates purity in self and mind, this is self evident. Vulnerable Divorcees et al are the only exception.
Yummy, Virginity indicates purity in self and mind, this is self evident. Vulnerable Divorcees et al are the only exception.
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