charlie hebdo, The west and revolutionary Morality

[Typhoon]

There is a sickness at the hearth of western man.
The sickness is liberalism that took man from god worshiping being to a base-material being.

We derive our morals from god and the western man derives his morals from custom, meaning if you had 2 western man, one from 16 century and the other 2015, both would be white, both would have the same human need, but will have different morality and ethics.
Why, read karl marx quote

the whole Idea of progress is linking technological progress with the progress of the human "self," which is not the case.
humans haveregressed in terms morality and are no different from animals,while man has progressed in terms of technology.

Western man is becoming less of a human everyday and more of a machine.
Western man is striving to be a machine, so welcome to the world of Terminator T-800

Liberty may be endangered by the abuse of liberty, but also by the abuse of power.
James Madison

For the Age has itself become vulgar, and most people have no idea to what extent they are themselves tainted. The bad manners of all parliaments, the general tendency to connive at a rather shady business transaction if it promises to bring in money without work, jazz and Negro dances as the spiritual outlet in all circles of society, women painted like prostitutes, the efforts of writers to win popularity by ridiculing in their novels and plays the correctness of well-bred people, and the bad taste shown even by the nobility and old princely families in throwing off every kind of social restraint and time-honoured custom: all of these go to prove that it is now the vulgar mob that gives the tone.”
― Oswald Spengler

Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.
Thomas Sowell

I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means -- except by getting off his back.
Count Leo Tolstoy

[TheMailMan]

I wish I could give you a million thumbs-up for this thread. I totally and completely agree. The West is amazing when it comes to economic growth and technological innovation.....but their morality is lacking and the foundation of their civilization is crumbling. It's a sad sight to see.

[Togdeer]

I agree.
But the problem is worse than we though its not just the west, but the entire world seems to care more about this life than the hereafter.
Women want to be like men, nudity and homosexuality is becoming a normal thing for the majority of the world.
Mothers are giving birth to their slave masters, women would rather seek wealth than spend time with their children.

So many sign brother, the world is coming to an end. And Muslims are among the worse people right now. Many Muslims lost their faith. And most people have a wrong idea about Islam, there are extremists and hypocrites...

But Islam is my shield against all evil.

[TheMailMan]

These cursed and godless secularists need the Guidance of Allah. They need the Wisdom and Justice of Islam to govern their lives and their daily affairs. In the 1st World Nations today, you see suicide-rates amongst these Non-Muslims skyrocketing. More people die due to suicide than they do due to murder. In Northern European countries, suicide rates are sky-high. And the same goes for North America and East Asia. They may be prosperous financially, and they may live in technologically advanced civilizations, but these people are absolutely miserable wallahi.

Just look at this:



And this is what happens to you when you sever your link to your Creator. Or if you worship and put trust in others except Allah. The Hindus are misguided because they've deceived themselves into worshiping stone idols. The Christians are worshiping a statue of a dead man on a cross. They've made false gods out of idols, and pray to them and this only increases their misguidance and despair. Put your trust in Allah, your Creator and Sustainer. The Muslims in the past have done this, to extraordinary success.

And when we Muslims return to practicing our religion in the correct manner, we will skyrocket and build the greatest, most prosperous societies. We've done so before under the Islamic Caliphates, and we can do so again bi'ithnillahi ta'ala

[SahanGalbeed]

Well you cannot really compare yourself { whomever that "you" is here } to the "white" man , for "you" haven't really made the equivalent/corresponding progress he did between the middle ages and 2015 . You see the problem here is , "YOU" inserting yourself in the picture , for your argument could have otherwise had its own merit which is what makes " you " backward. Note that your references concern HUMANS not the western man or the " YOU man "

[Typhoon]

Well you cannot really compare yourself { whomever that "you" is here } to the "white" man , for "you" haven't really made the equivalent/corresponding progress he did between the middle ages and 2015 . You see the problem here is , "YOU" inserting yourself in the picture , for your argument could have otherwise had its own merit which is what makes " you " backward. Note that your references concern HUMANS not the western man or the " YOU man "

sahan galbeed are you drinking again, I thought you were in rehabilitation centre.
didn`t you tell us you quite somalinet

anwayz welcome back but what you wrote is bulshit, sheekeyo marfish hargeisa ba la timid.

[original dervish]

Answer the point being made......by resorting to insults you lose any debate.

[Typhoon]

Answer the point being made......by resorting to insults you lose any debate.

there is no foking debate dude, this is a dictation, so take a note and keep walking.

[SahanGalbeed]

, being drunk or intoxicated is a momentary loss of one's faculties , your problem on the other hand my friend seems to favor a more permanently defective course . Do not mistaken me for one of your little pathetic congregates who reinforce each other no matter how big the nonsense .

[AbdiJohnson]

You people boast about the camels you rob from rival neighboring clans and justify diverting food aid and corruption. You have nothing to teach about morality

I am,

Charlie

[TheMailMan]

, being drunk or intoxicated is a momentary loss of one's faculties , your problem on the other hand my friend seems to favor a more permanently defective course . Do not mistaken me for one of your little pathetic congregates who reinforce each other no matter how big the nonsense .

Don't mistake us for one of your Richard Dawkins sheep who parrot whatever that delusional man says on the microphone. Time and time again, on Somali forums and on non-Somali forums, I've noticed that you Kaffirs have a unique ability to not think critically and to parrot whatever you hear said in the media. Even your arguments are identical.

If you want to ignore the overwhelming body of knowledge/evidence which exists that favors Islam, then go right ahead. But just don't accept the rest of us to follow along in your delusional way of thinking.

May Allah Guide you, and in Allah is who we put our Trust. Ameen.

[KnowThySelf23]

These cursed and godless secularists need the Guidance of Allah. They need the Wisdom and Justice of Islam to govern their lives and their daily affairs. In the 1st World Nations today, you see suicide-rates amongst these Non-Muslims skyrocketing. More people die due to suicide than they do due to murder. In Northern European countries, suicide rates are sky-high. And the same goes for North America and East Asia. They may be prosperous financially, and they may live in technologically advanced civilizations, but these people are absolutely miserable wallahi.

Just look at this:



And this is what happens to you when you sever your link to your Creator. Or if you worship and put trust in others except Allah. The Hindus are misguided because they've deceived themselves into worshiping stone idols. The Christians are worshiping a statue of a dead man on a cross. They've made false gods out of idols, and pray to them and this only increases their misguidance and despair. Put your trust in Allah, your Creator and Sustainer. The Muslims in the past have done this, to extraordinary success.

And when we Muslims return to practicing our religion in the correct manner, we will skyrocket and build the greatest, most prosperous societies. We've done so before under the Islamic Caliphates, and we can do so again bi'ithnillahi ta'ala

LOL suicide rates? and muslims are at the bottom? please....are you forgetting about the muslim terrorists suicide bombers? and the ones killing innocent including each other? I'm sure their suicide rates are no match when compared to other religions or lack thereof....

[TheMailMan]

LOL suicide rates? and muslims are at the bottom? please....are you forgetting about the muslim terrorists suicide bombers? and the ones killing innocent including each other? I'm sure their suicide rates are no match when compared to other religions or lack thereof....

LOL It's funny because you actually think you've said something smart. You do realize that suicide bombings don't count, because that's not a traditional suicide. Suicides are usually done by people to kill themselves out of despair. You can't include some terrorist who wants to blow himself up as a tactic. You're confusing the two.

And even if you include suicide bombings, Muslims STILL have by far the lowest suicide rates. By far. Suicide bombings--contrary to popular belief--are NOT that common. Suicides however, are so common that they're one of the leading causes of death in the Western World. Even in the rest of the world (like India and China)...suicides are a real epidemic and is often the LEADING cause of death in certain demographics.

But what do you know....

[SahanGalbeed]

Si kastoo u durdur iyo dabaal galo doofar weligii ma daahiro.


Somali saying the equivalent of no matter what forms or shape{ litterally how many times it washes itself} a pig embraces , it never becomes halal

[KnowThySelf23]

@mail man....i agree, but you using that as a reason to entice people to join your religion is wrong...fear isn't the way..in your previous post you said that "And this is what happens to you when you sever your link to your Creator. Or if you worship and put trust in others except Allah".....your implying that everyone other then a muslim is likely to kill himself...when in fact most people who do that shit are white gay people trying to get attention, and bullying from homophobic people...(in the west atleast) and that could just as easily be anyone...you constantly here a little white kid killing themselves over petty shit, but hardly a muslim...becouse they're not that stupid and liberal obsessed....but religion is definitely NOT what drives these people to their death...its the stupid society they live in...

anyways i partially agree