Djiboutian your so confused sxb
Check out what you posted they all meet at qays!
Tankale wax aadan aqoon faraha ha la galin!
Waxaan hal deegaan
0104045177.blogspot.com/.../blog-post. ...
1 تشرين الثاني (نوفمبر) 2009 ... نسب الاجداد وشجرة العائلة من الاشراف فخرا بهم ...... البراعصة، الفوايد ، الرماح، الحليقات ، خويلد، الصعيطي، الخرافي، الموالك، المشارقة، الحويطات، الضعفا، المعازة. 8-محافظة جنوب سيناء:
معجم قبائل العرب القديمة والحديثة [الأرشيف] - منتديات الجلفة لكل ...
www.djelfa.info/.../t-727902.html
30 أيلول (سبتمبر) 2011 ... 7-بني سويف : البراعصة، الفوايد ، الرماح، الحليقات ، خويلد، الصعيطي، الخرافي، الموالك،
Al baracisa waa farac al rashayida ah waa taan so post gareeyey dagaalkoodii ay la galeen al cobydat-arabic speaking beja-
Anyways forget about the relationship between them my point was morsi being a foreingner and that his clan have recently arrived egypt!
This is their link do you know more than them?
Before you mention al fawayida a have posted this link
مي ...
برقية الملك فهد رحمه الله - لشيخ آل حيان من البراعصه من الرشايدة ...
Waxaan dhan al xaraabi iyo bani salim bay isaga soo dhacaan marka waa isku mid baracisa iyo al fawayid!
القبائل العربية: قبيلة الحرابى http://bloggeradel12345.blogspot.com/20 ... 2.html?m=1
Xeer Ciise
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Re: Xeer Ciise
Firstly, you claimed Morsi is Palestinian " Falastini "
Thirdly, you said his tribe lives in Sinai and they prefeer to be under Isreal !! And you came to this conclusion because he said " Ahli Wa Cashirati instead of Shacbi "
You called me "confused" although you are the confused one. And kept discussing something which are not related to the topic or even to Morsi lineage . Ma Al Baracsa asalkood ayaan ku waydiiyay?!! Mar waxaad laydahay Al Baracsah wa Rashaydah. Seconds later you said Al Baracsah and Al Fawaydah meet in Al Xaarabi and Bani Saleem!!
Wale meel lagu raaco in aan jirin
Seriously I hate to argue or even debate with Xamarawiis because you guys like to talk in things you know nothing about oo marka danbe qofkii dhama ayaad magaciisa ku qabsan.
I'll do you a favor and tell you who is who so bring your pen.
The story begin with the death of Ja'afar Al Sadiq Bin Mohmed Al Baqar Bin Ali Zayn Al A'abidin Bin Al Husain Bin Ali (Radiyallahu A'anh). Some people declared their imam is his son Musa Al Khadhim Bin Ja'afar Al Sadiq and those have been called " Al ethna A'asharyah". Whereas, others announced his other son Ismail Bin Ja'afar Al Sadiq as their Imam " They are known as Al ethna A'ashariyah". The latter established utopian state named Al Al Qaramidah which both Bani Saleem and Bani Hilaal supported. Their support to Al Qaramidah state was not based on doctrinal reasons but because they wanted to revenge from Al Abbasids Caliphate who deported them to Al Sham because they used to loot passengers in their way to and back from Al Hajj. Bani Saleem and Bani Hilaal along with other tribes have been deported again to Sa'aid Masr "Egypt" few years later. And again they did what they were good at "looting and killing villagers" so to get rid of them Al Fathimi State which was also Ismailiyah sent them to fight Al Muiz Ibn Badis who adopted Sunni Madhab and recognized the Abbasids as the rightful Caliphs. The battle between the Arabian Tribes and Amir Al Muiz Badis, the Amir of Afriqiyah, Tunisia, west of Libya and east of Algeria nowadays took place almost 1000 years ago. Al Muiz Bin Badis army has been defeate. As a result Bani Hilaal took over all the fertile lands in Afriqiyah and even some have emigrated to Morocco and Al Andalus. Whereas, most of Bani Saleem troops came back to settle in Berqa. This is a glance of how Bani Saleem settled in Berqa, East of Libya (When I say Berqa I don’t mean the city but Wilayat Berqa which was always part of Egypt).
Bani Saleem clan always considered Egypt as their new homelands. However, they couldn’t come back to Egypt because there was starvation there but they never missed a chance to emigrate to Egypt whenever the chance come. Hadaba the moryaan attitudes continued and Bani Saleem sub clans kept fighting with their Turkish rulers or with their neighbor tribes even among themselves. As a result kolba kii laga adkaado, and I mean here Bani Saleem subclans and their alliance tribes “Bani Saleem soo raac”, aya dhanka Masr oo soo qaxa marna ka sii qaxa.
Hadaba aan dib oo ku noqone topic-ka. Unlike Bani Saleem, Al Rashidi clan wasn’t deported or emigrated to Africa. In fact, Al Rashidi “Al Rashaydah” was the ruling clan in the whole Najd and North Saudi which all Arabian clans in the whole Arabian Peninsula were afraid of their of their raids. Lakin kibirku mar ba lagu kufa. Al Rashaydah Emarat has been defeated and Al Rashaydah escaped their lives leaving Arabian Peninsula to Eastern Sudan BY BOATS. From there they moved south to Eritrean Northern border with Eastern Sudan and North to its border with Egypt. That’s why Al Rashaydah can be found in Red Sea District in Egypt and they don’t share any degans with any tribes you mentioned above.
Aan dib ugu noqdi beelaha kale aad tirisay. You are confused because of your lack of knowledge about the mentioned tribes and because of the similarity of the sub clans names and nicknames.
And now take notes Xamarawi boy.
1-Al Fawaydah in Sinai has nothing to do with Al Fawaydah of East Libya. Al Fawaydah in Sinai hails from Juhaina tribe.
2-You mistaken Al Fawaydah (Fayd Al Asgar) which is part of Al Haraabi with Al Fawaydah (Faid Al Akbar) which Al Ayad family hails. Fayd Al Asgar Bin Al Dayb Bin A’aqar Bin Al Dayb Bin Abi Al Layl (Part of confederation of Al Harabi with his unlce Harb Bin A’aqar). The other one is: Fayd Bin Barqoot Al Akbar Bin Al Dib.
3- Al Baracsah which is mentioned in all the links you posted is Al Baracsah which had battle with Al Haraabi in Berqa (And for your information Al Baracsah is a confederationand it is not even Arabs but Amaziq although they claim to be Hashimite “Adarisah” ). Most of Al Rashidi who lives in East Sudan and Eritrea hail from Al Baracsah sub clan of Al Rashaydah but it is normal to see many Arabian or even none Arabian tribes which share the same sub clan names.
4- Al Rashaydah clan territories were in North Saudi all the way to Najd and Al Qasim and it has nothing to do with Palestine or Hijaz which was under Ashraf rule.
5- Morsi doesn’t hail from a tribe that consider itself not Egyptian or prefer to be Isreali. No Arabian prefer to be Isreali but I am not sure if you guys do.
6- Since when “Ahli Wa Cashirati” phrase will make someone not Egyptian !! As for the look he looks more Egyptian than reer Hiran look Somali.
7- The liberal novelist Miral Al Tahawi is not related to Morsi. And not every Tahawi is from Hanadi tribe. Al Tahawi is a confederation. And for your information Al Hanadi have been kicked away from even Al Bihayrah by Awlad Ali who control all the western region of Egypt. And then they moved to Al Sharqiyah in 19th century before the Yusuf Pasha ordered to kill them. Those who survived from Al Hanadi moved to Berqa but they came back to settle in Al Sharqiyah again after few years.
8- Al Hanadi emigrated to Egypt from Arabian Peninsula in 19th century!! You must be kidding me. Al Hanadi homelands is Egypt. The Pasha of Egypt who ruled some parts of Bilad Al Sham and Hijaz used Al Hanadi like he used Awlad Ali and other Mooryaan tribes to wipe the tribes in Gaza and to make them busy else they will cause trouble to state.
9- Al Rashaydah iyo Bani Saleem shaqo isku malaha. They never meet in Al Haraabi or whatsoever. I repeat again they meet in Qays Aylan who count few names to Adnan.
10 - Al Ubaydat who fought with Al Baracsah are the descendants of Harb Bin A'aqar (They are from Al Haraabi) not Beja Arabic speaker confused lad.
10- Finally, Al Fawaydah lives in Al Fayum, Al Manya and Bani Suwayf. Whereas, Morsi Family is from Al Sharqiyah. Anyway there is no proof that Morsi hails from Al Fawaydah. Therefore, I said he is Al Ayad (Full stop)
Do I know more than them?
YES I DO AND FOR SURE I KNOW MORE THAN YOU.
War orod oo caga maydho oo iska hurdo tag. Adigo oo alif iyo ba'a toona garanayn ayaad wax aan leqsanahay igu qabsanaysa adigu shalay dhashay.
P.S. The topic is about Xeer Ciise not Morsi origin
Secondly, you claimed he hails from Al Rashidi " Al Rashaydah " clan and that Al Rashidi are from Hijaz and Palestine "Falastine" !!sahal80 wrote:
Former egyptian president morsi is not an original egyptian, he's falastini from a bedouin clan
sahal80 wrote:
You see egypt was ruled by a guy who share origins with al rashayida clan who can be dound in eritrea too? They r from hijaz and falastin
Thirdly, you said his tribe lives in Sinai and they prefeer to be under Isreal !! And you came to this conclusion because he said " Ahli Wa Cashirati instead of Shacbi "
Fourthly, you claimed Morsi is related to Miral Al Tahawy and that Al Hanadi tribe emigrated from Arabian Peninsula in the early 19th century to the Nile Delta provine of Al Sharqiyah!!sahal80 wrote:
As for morsi, yes he belongs to one of the northeasren bedouin tribes wich r not still considered to be egyptians, some of them even prefer to be under israel but their region have been developed unlike of the southreners bc they r coastal tribes
They live in both sids of sinai
Morsi says ahli wa cashirati instead of shacbi!
He looks typical falastini!
محمد مرسي العياط الرشيدي - ..ٌ::ٌ:: النسابون العرب ::ٌ::ٌ.. http://www.alnssabon.com/t37223.html
جـــريدة الوطـــن الإلكترونية http://alwatan.kuwait.tt/mobile/marticl ... ?id=205590
Fifthly, you kept talking nonesene and claimed al Haraabi and Al Rashayidah meet on Bani Saleem !!sahal80 wrote: Lol prez morsis history in egypt goes back to 19 century!
He's related to this woman who became a novelist
Typical palestinian. She studied in lebiya!
http://www.westoestlicherdiwan.de/images/tahawi.jpg
"Miral el-Tahawy - Unveiling the Lives of Egypt's Bedouin Women
Al-Tahawy was born in 1968, daughter of a tribe known as al-Hanadi that emigrated from the Arab Peninsula in the early 19th century to the Nile Delta province of al-Sharqiya. As a child, her friends "
This is his clan, not exactly rashayida but they have connections and live together but this one is found more on egypts borders with lybia
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العياط وعبد الغفار وابو سعيدة وبو جير
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sahal80 wrote: Djiboutian
Sounds like you don't know shyt about the arabic cultures
When I said morsi is a foreigner not an original egyptian and that he belongs to al rashayida you landed here saying no he's al ayat!
I told you he belongs to al fawayid-check out my previous link FB- but has connection with al rashayida how?
Al fawayid is part of al haraabi and al haraabi and al rashayida meet at banu salim!!
This is their branch in the lebya borders
يرجع اصل عائلة خضر الي جدهم خضر بن داود بن" فايد[[1]] بن الذيب الاصغر بن عقار بن الذيب الاكبر بن أبي الليل بن أحمد بن كعب بن على بن يعقوب بن كعب بن أحمد بن ترجم بن حميد بن يحي بن علاق بن عوف بن بهنه بن سليم، فهي تعود الي فايد الذي ضمه اليه عمه حرب بن عقار والد قبائل الحرابي وذلك بعد وفاة ابوه الذيب الاصغر، لذلك تنسب قبيلة فايد - والتي تنسب اليها عائلة خضر- الي الحرابي،وأما"
Nothing have to do with the arabs who spread islam in egypt
http://www.albawabhnews.com/773291
Now why I call them plasteninians?
They have been living in there and in jordan for a long centuries before moving to africa so they look like them
They arrived africa-lebya- in the 17 century and in egypt about the 19 century
They have darker hijazi looking ones as well but the majority of them r lighter than the gulf arabs.
I'm out!.
You called me "confused" although you are the confused one. And kept discussing something which are not related to the topic or even to Morsi lineage
. Ma Al Baracsa asalkood ayaan ku waydiiyay?!! Mar waxaad laydahay Al Baracsah wa Rashaydah. Seconds later you said Al Baracsah and Al Fawaydah meet in Al Xaarabi and Bani Saleem!! Wale meel lagu raaco in aan jirin
sahal80 wrote:Djiboutian your so confused sxb
Check out what you posted they all meet at qays!
Tankale wax aadan aqoon faraha ha la galin!
Waxaan hal deegaan
1 تشرين الثاني (نوفمبر) 2009 ... نسب الاجداد وشجرة العائلة من الاشراف فخرا بهم ...... البراعصة، الفوايد ، الرماح، الحليقات ، خويلد، الصعيطي، الخرافي، الموالك، المشارقة، الحويطات، الضعفا، المعازة. 8-محافظة جنوب سيناء:
معجم قبائل العرب القديمة والحديثة [الأرشيف] - منتديات الجلفة لكل ...
30 أيلول (سبتمبر) 2011 ... 7-بني سويف : البراعصة، الفوايد ، الرماح، الحليقات ، خويلد، الصعيطي، الخرافي، الموالك،
Al baracisa waa farac al rashayida ah waa taan so post gareeyey dagaalkoodii ay la galeen al cobydat-arabic speaking beja-
This is their link do you know more than them?
مي ...
برقية الملك فهد رحمه الله - لشيخ آل حيان من البراعصه من الرشايدة ...
Waxaan dhan al xaraabi iyo bani salim bay isaga soo dhacaan marka waa isku mid baracisa iyo al fawayid!
Seriously I hate to argue or even debate with Xamarawiis because you guys like to talk in things you know nothing about oo marka danbe qofkii dhama ayaad magaciisa ku qabsan.
I'll do you a favor and tell you who is who so bring your pen.
The story begin with the death of Ja'afar Al Sadiq Bin Mohmed Al Baqar Bin Ali Zayn Al A'abidin Bin Al Husain Bin Ali (Radiyallahu A'anh). Some people declared their imam is his son Musa Al Khadhim Bin Ja'afar Al Sadiq and those have been called " Al ethna A'asharyah". Whereas, others announced his other son Ismail Bin Ja'afar Al Sadiq as their Imam " They are known as Al ethna A'ashariyah". The latter established utopian state named Al Al Qaramidah which both Bani Saleem and Bani Hilaal supported. Their support to Al Qaramidah state was not based on doctrinal reasons but because they wanted to revenge from Al Abbasids Caliphate who deported them to Al Sham because they used to loot passengers in their way to and back from Al Hajj. Bani Saleem and Bani Hilaal along with other tribes have been deported again to Sa'aid Masr "Egypt" few years later. And again they did what they were good at "looting and killing villagers" so to get rid of them Al Fathimi State which was also Ismailiyah sent them to fight Al Muiz Ibn Badis who adopted Sunni Madhab and recognized the Abbasids as the rightful Caliphs. The battle between the Arabian Tribes and Amir Al Muiz Badis, the Amir of Afriqiyah, Tunisia, west of Libya and east of Algeria nowadays took place almost 1000 years ago. Al Muiz Bin Badis army has been defeate. As a result Bani Hilaal took over all the fertile lands in Afriqiyah and even some have emigrated to Morocco and Al Andalus. Whereas, most of Bani Saleem troops came back to settle in Berqa. This is a glance of how Bani Saleem settled in Berqa, East of Libya (When I say Berqa I don’t mean the city but Wilayat Berqa which was always part of Egypt).
Bani Saleem clan always considered Egypt as their new homelands. However, they couldn’t come back to Egypt because there was starvation there but they never missed a chance to emigrate to Egypt whenever the chance come. Hadaba the moryaan attitudes continued and Bani Saleem sub clans kept fighting with their Turkish rulers or with their neighbor tribes even among themselves. As a result kolba kii laga adkaado, and I mean here Bani Saleem subclans and their alliance tribes “Bani Saleem soo raac”, aya dhanka Masr oo soo qaxa marna ka sii qaxa.
Hadaba aan dib oo ku noqone topic-ka. Unlike Bani Saleem, Al Rashidi clan wasn’t deported or emigrated to Africa. In fact, Al Rashidi “Al Rashaydah” was the ruling clan in the whole Najd and North Saudi which all Arabian clans in the whole Arabian Peninsula were afraid of their of their raids. Lakin kibirku mar ba lagu kufa. Al Rashaydah Emarat has been defeated and Al Rashaydah escaped their lives leaving Arabian Peninsula to Eastern Sudan BY BOATS. From there they moved south to Eritrean Northern border with Eastern Sudan and North to its border with Egypt. That’s why Al Rashaydah can be found in Red Sea District in Egypt and they don’t share any degans with any tribes you mentioned above.
Aan dib ugu noqdi beelaha kale aad tirisay. You are confused because of your lack of knowledge about the mentioned tribes and because of the similarity of the sub clans names and nicknames.
And now take notes Xamarawi boy.
1-Al Fawaydah in Sinai has nothing to do with Al Fawaydah of East Libya. Al Fawaydah in Sinai hails from Juhaina tribe.
2-You mistaken Al Fawaydah (Fayd Al Asgar) which is part of Al Haraabi with Al Fawaydah (Faid Al Akbar) which Al Ayad family hails. Fayd Al Asgar Bin Al Dayb Bin A’aqar Bin Al Dayb Bin Abi Al Layl (Part of confederation of Al Harabi with his unlce Harb Bin A’aqar). The other one is: Fayd Bin Barqoot Al Akbar Bin Al Dib.
3- Al Baracsah which is mentioned in all the links you posted is Al Baracsah which had battle with Al Haraabi in Berqa (And for your information Al Baracsah is a confederationand it is not even Arabs but Amaziq although they claim to be Hashimite “Adarisah” ). Most of Al Rashidi who lives in East Sudan and Eritrea hail from Al Baracsah sub clan of Al Rashaydah but it is normal to see many Arabian or even none Arabian tribes which share the same sub clan names.
4- Al Rashaydah clan territories were in North Saudi all the way to Najd and Al Qasim and it has nothing to do with Palestine or Hijaz which was under Ashraf rule.
5- Morsi doesn’t hail from a tribe that consider itself not Egyptian or prefer to be Isreali. No Arabian prefer to be Isreali but I am not sure if you guys do.
6- Since when “Ahli Wa Cashirati” phrase will make someone not Egyptian !! As for the look he looks more Egyptian than reer Hiran look Somali.
7- The liberal novelist Miral Al Tahawi is not related to Morsi. And not every Tahawi is from Hanadi tribe. Al Tahawi is a confederation. And for your information Al Hanadi have been kicked away from even Al Bihayrah by Awlad Ali who control all the western region of Egypt. And then they moved to Al Sharqiyah in 19th century before the Yusuf Pasha ordered to kill them. Those who survived from Al Hanadi moved to Berqa but they came back to settle in Al Sharqiyah again after few years.
8- Al Hanadi emigrated to Egypt from Arabian Peninsula in 19th century!! You must be kidding me. Al Hanadi homelands is Egypt. The Pasha of Egypt who ruled some parts of Bilad Al Sham and Hijaz used Al Hanadi like he used Awlad Ali and other Mooryaan tribes to wipe the tribes in Gaza and to make them busy else they will cause trouble to state.
9- Al Rashaydah iyo Bani Saleem shaqo isku malaha. They never meet in Al Haraabi or whatsoever. I repeat again they meet in Qays Aylan who count few names to Adnan.
10 - Al Ubaydat who fought with Al Baracsah are the descendants of Harb Bin A'aqar (They are from Al Haraabi) not Beja Arabic speaker confused lad.
10- Finally, Al Fawaydah lives in Al Fayum, Al Manya and Bani Suwayf. Whereas, Morsi Family is from Al Sharqiyah. Anyway there is no proof that Morsi hails from Al Fawaydah. Therefore, I said he is Al Ayad (Full stop)
Do I know more than them?
YES I DO AND FOR SURE I KNOW MORE THAN YOU.
War orod oo caga maydho oo iska hurdo tag. Adigo oo alif iyo ba'a toona garanayn ayaad wax aan leqsanahay igu qabsanaysa adigu shalay dhashay.
P.S. The topic is about Xeer Ciise not Morsi origin
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Re: Xeer Ciise
Am I clear?
Re: Xeer Ciise
Damn sahal has his work cut out for him aar ninka iska dhici sahaloow
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Re: Xeer Ciise
SAHAL, DONT HIDE. WAR DADKANI WAA IMTIXAAN.
Re: Xeer Ciise
lolMarques wrote:Damn sahal has his work cut out for him aar ninka iska dhici sahaloow
I give up bc he doesn't seem to understand arabic!
I'm right 100%
Since your family moved from yemen and you know arabic these r my points:
Mohamed morsi is not a native egyptian rather from a badw tribe who recently moved to egypt just like the al rashayida case in eritrea-between 18-19 centuries
His own clain is admiting having arrived egypt 3 centries ago-19,20,21 centuries-
A kuwaitian mp who belongs to banu matir bin salim have revealed morsi being al rashayida
So, bc people don't get this while giving an example of how arab societies r mixed too but stick to their countries, I said morsi is more related to al rashadia than then other egyptians!
Mr djiboutian has landed here telling me that he's not from al rashayida and that he's from the tribe of al cayaat
I said to him this is more a family name just like what we call reer but his clan is called al fawayida and have connections with al rashayida through al xarabi federation and banu salim wich is why the kuwaitan mp calles him being al rashayida bc them and them-banu motiir- r banu salim or the al qabail al cabasiya al qaysiya al nazariya al cadnaniya
Look at this chart on the left side: al fawaida r sons of bargouth and hence r called al baragiith, they r next to al xarabi-my old link says al fawayid were annexed by their cousins al xarabi hence r one of them though technically r cousins, its the same hawiye-other samaales case-
This is al fawayida and you see where they hail from; barhouth
http://www.alnssabon.com/t936.html
Finally after he got defeated in this battle, he went to jordan-sina on the side of khalij caqaba- picking some clan who carry the name al fawayida of al juhayna!
Al juhayna r not cadnaniya they r from yemen!
Pls show me any link that shows al cayat being part of al juhayna don't bring here the same story of warsangali fulan and warsangali callaan!
He also said they r not related to al hanaadi and you see the chart shows how they r related!
Al rashayida is part of al xarabi as al baracisa, younger branch/jufo/fakhz
http://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A% ... J_o5Gk&s=1
See left, all al xarabi, al baragith, al hanadi r put together, they all originated in burqa east of lebya at the egyptian borders! Originally from hijaz through jordan
http://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A% ... TFTMg8&s=1
Re: Xeer Ciise
Says al fawayida is part of al xarabi federation and we cant call them a standalone clan!
Means al rashayida/albaracisa and al fawayida being one clan!
Means morsi and al rashayida belong to the same clan!
He doesn't get this!!
ما يقوله المؤرخون والباحثون عن قبيلة فايد:
يقول السنوسي محمد الغزالي في كتابه برقه قديما وحديثا ص 170 أن قبيلة
فايد بن الذئب بن حرب تنقسم إلى خمسة أفخاذ الأول صالح والثاني إبراهيم والثالث
يونس والرابع داود والخامس سعيد مقرهم في الجبل الأخضر يحدهم من الشمال ومن الشرق
قبائل العبيدات ومن الغرب قبيلة البراعصة ومن الجنوب الصحراء وفي وطنهم زاوية
الفايديه الذي يستقر فيها نفر قليل أما كل القبيلة فهي تستقر بالفيوم بالديار
المصرية كما يقول الكاتب الإيطالي هنريكو دي أوغسطيني ترجمة الكاتب الليبي خليفة
محمد التليسي في كتابهمعجم سكان ليبيا الجزء الثاني ص 157 أن قبيلة فايد هي الوحدة
الصغيرة من الوحدات الخمس التي تتكون منها قبائل الحرابي لن نخلع عليها صفة
القبيلة إذ أن الأمر بشانها يتصل بعدد صغير يقيم أغلبه في الوقت الحاضر خارج برقه
تمتد أراضيها نحو الجنوب من أراضي الحاسة ومن التقاليد المتوارثة أن منطقة الحرابي
مقسمة إلى أربعة أقسام وليسي إلى خمسة ربع للاخوين الحاسي وفايد الذين قسماها إلى
قسمين فاسند إلى الأول المنطقة الواقعة بين الفايديه إلى البحر ترك للأخر الباقي
ويتعلق الأمر بشريط ضيق محصور بين شرقي وغربي حدود قبيله البراعصة والعبيدات دون
حدود جنوبية وأراضيهم خصبة حين يجودها الغيث ولهذا كانت منطقة يتردد عليها بصفة
عادية القبائل المجاورة وكانت قبيلة فايد في العهد العثماني تتبع مديريه البراعصة
ومركزها سلطنه وهي الآن تبع مديرية الحاسة ومركزها شحات ولم تكن تتجاوز في ذلك
العهد أربعمائه نسمة كما يبدو وفي منتصف القرن الماضي تقربا وبعد خلاف مع أخوتها
من قبيلة العبيدات (الحرابي) أخذ أعضاؤها ينزحون إلى الفيوم بالديار المصرية وقد
بقي منهم أقل من 200 نسمة عارضوا الاحتلال وحين أحتل مركزهم الرئيسي وهو الفايدية
في يوليو سنة 1913م هجروا منطقتهم بصفة جماعية ولحق قسم منهم باخوتهم في مصر "
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The reason they moved to egypt is due to al rahayida being appointed as the rulers of al xarabi federation by the turkish, this has resulted big war and migration to egypt
This is mohamed ali basha time!
Imagin some one who arrived saylac and berbera under the turkish rule is he a native somali?
http://www.google.nl/url?q=http://ar.m. ... p7pxyYjUmw
Why I call him plastenian then?
Its bigger for our friends horizon to understand this!
They r no more hijaziyiin as they have being living in jordan/falastin for long centuries before spreading to africa!
This is why this historian from his region calls him a plastenian
I know he's pro siisi but the story is true!
Means al rashayida/albaracisa and al fawayida being one clan!
Means morsi and al rashayida belong to the same clan!
He doesn't get this!!
ما يقوله المؤرخون والباحثون عن قبيلة فايد:
يقول السنوسي محمد الغزالي في كتابه برقه قديما وحديثا ص 170 أن قبيلة
فايد بن الذئب بن حرب تنقسم إلى خمسة أفخاذ الأول صالح والثاني إبراهيم والثالث
يونس والرابع داود والخامس سعيد مقرهم في الجبل الأخضر يحدهم من الشمال ومن الشرق
قبائل العبيدات ومن الغرب قبيلة البراعصة ومن الجنوب الصحراء وفي وطنهم زاوية
الفايديه الذي يستقر فيها نفر قليل أما كل القبيلة فهي تستقر بالفيوم بالديار
المصرية كما يقول الكاتب الإيطالي هنريكو دي أوغسطيني ترجمة الكاتب الليبي خليفة
محمد التليسي في كتابهمعجم سكان ليبيا الجزء الثاني ص 157 أن قبيلة فايد هي الوحدة
الصغيرة من الوحدات الخمس التي تتكون منها قبائل الحرابي لن نخلع عليها صفة
القبيلة إذ أن الأمر بشانها يتصل بعدد صغير يقيم أغلبه في الوقت الحاضر خارج برقه
تمتد أراضيها نحو الجنوب من أراضي الحاسة ومن التقاليد المتوارثة أن منطقة الحرابي
مقسمة إلى أربعة أقسام وليسي إلى خمسة ربع للاخوين الحاسي وفايد الذين قسماها إلى
قسمين فاسند إلى الأول المنطقة الواقعة بين الفايديه إلى البحر ترك للأخر الباقي
ويتعلق الأمر بشريط ضيق محصور بين شرقي وغربي حدود قبيله البراعصة والعبيدات دون
حدود جنوبية وأراضيهم خصبة حين يجودها الغيث ولهذا كانت منطقة يتردد عليها بصفة
عادية القبائل المجاورة وكانت قبيلة فايد في العهد العثماني تتبع مديريه البراعصة
ومركزها سلطنه وهي الآن تبع مديرية الحاسة ومركزها شحات ولم تكن تتجاوز في ذلك
العهد أربعمائه نسمة كما يبدو وفي منتصف القرن الماضي تقربا وبعد خلاف مع أخوتها
من قبيلة العبيدات (الحرابي) أخذ أعضاؤها ينزحون إلى الفيوم بالديار المصرية وقد
بقي منهم أقل من 200 نسمة عارضوا الاحتلال وحين أحتل مركزهم الرئيسي وهو الفايدية
في يوليو سنة 1913م هجروا منطقتهم بصفة جماعية ولحق قسم منهم باخوتهم في مصر "
Comments
Posted for him!
The reason they moved to egypt is due to al rahayida being appointed as the rulers of al xarabi federation by the turkish, this has resulted big war and migration to egypt
This is mohamed ali basha time!
Imagin some one who arrived saylac and berbera under the turkish rule is he a native somali?
http://www.google.nl/url?q=http://ar.m. ... p7pxyYjUmw
Why I call him plastenian then?
Its bigger for our friends horizon to understand this!
They r no more hijaziyiin as they have being living in jordan/falastin for long centuries before spreading to africa!
This is why this historian from his region calls him a plastenian
I know he's pro siisi but the story is true!
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