Puntland Independence NOW

[BigBreak]

a freind of mine who is a ciise maxamuud supporter of mr farole told me after the terror attack in garowe today on monday 20th april 2015 and also the killings of its people in south-central somalia e.g. federal lawmakers killed in mogadishu, and claiming northern mudug etc. ..... does it not make sense that puntland still wants to be associated with the south-centre and their lawlessness/terrorism and not be free, prosperous and peaceful like its neighbour somaliland as well as other somali territories such as ddsi and djibouti

should puntland declare unity has failed and secede, if so when will the 'puntland independence movement' i hear about be reactivated/formed

[BigBreak]

the choice is either centralism within zoomalia or secession - federalism of any kind wont work

[GAMES]

LooL Qaldaan waalan iga dheh. Adigaa Ictiraaf kuwaalatay, markaasaas rabtaa qof kula waasho.

Not everyone abandons their country in the first sign of a trouble.

Lay off the Khat.

[SiennaEarth]

What's with the increase of idoors bootyshaking for Puntland seperation of Somalia? Why do you care you are not even one of them?. I've got a suggestion why don't puntlanders and idoors join forces and get ictiraf together, you surely won't be missed

[Bandit]

The only way mj land would ask for recognition would be if the hawiye government recognize isaaqland and if that happens Jubbaland would ask for recognition then the non hawiye state then the hawiye government would only have hawiye regions as a country
the likely odds of this happening is close to zero

[Halmog]

big break, quit obsessing with us nigga

What's with the increase of idoors bootyshaking for Puntland seperation of Somalia? Why do you care you are not even one of them?. I've got a suggestion why don't puntlanders and idoors join forces and get ictiraf together, you surely won't be missed

Nah, PL Will go solo

[Cunaaye25]

LooL Qaldaan waalan iga dheh. Adigaa Ictiraaf kuwaalatay, markaasaas rabtaa qof kula waasho.

Not everyone abandons their country in the first sign of a trouble.

Lay off the Khat.

Waryaa put the bottle down alcololic guy lacagtii Yareed the Walmart ku Siisey wax ku cun
wax ebola ku dhacdey ayuu u egyahay

Waryaa even the usa 0.5 ayaa food voucher lagugu siyaa,

I mind fucked him in the tinychat, har iyo habeen asgoo soo jeedo ayuu qarwaa darood,Mj, puntland this and that maskaxda ayey kaaga kaadiyeen

[Buraanbur]

LooL Qaldaan waalan iga dheh. Adigaa Ictiraaf kuwaalatay, markaasaas rabtaa qof kula waasho.

Not everyone abandons their country in the first sign of a trouble.

Lay off the Khat.

Waryaa put the bottle down alcololic guy lacagtii Yareed the Walmart ku Siisey wax ku cun
wax ebola ku dhacdey ayuu u egyahay

Waryaa even the usa 0.5 ayaa food voucher lagugu siyaa,

I mind fucked him in the tinychat, har iyo habeen asgoo soo jeedo ayuu qarwaa darood,Mj, puntland this and that maskaxda ayey kaaga kaadiyeen

[Bari14]

goboloda Puntland has done nothing for my kinsmen in Dhur Duri who are having to defend themselves against land grabs from Arabs who are in desperate search for fertile land. Khaatumo, Puntland, Somaliland its all the same shit.

Somalia waa hal

[Buraanbur]

goboloda Puntland has done nothing for my kinsmen in Dhur Duri who are having to defend themselves against land grabs from Arabs who are in desperate search for fertile land. Khaatumo, Puntland, Somaliland its all the same shit.

Somalia waa hal

What makes you think Puntland owes you anything? The government has done next to nothing for the people of Eastern/coastal Bari, but you don't see them flip-flopping. Loyalty is a concept that is foreign to people like you.

[LeJusticier]

Where's Xamud.?

Xamud is the mod to clean Pl section. He should protect this section trolls like Bigbreak who's only purpose is to troll.

[theyuusuf143]

The truth is mjs and isaaqs share more political views than the rest of other somalis. we have the exact same ambition just different approaches. we isaaqs tell what's in our hearts and minds straight away without thinking about the consequences, when say we we dont want to share a country with somalia we genuinely mean it. at the other hand the mjs are political minded they think before they do. when they act like they are defending Somalia unity its complete deception actually we have more soft spots for somalia than the mjs. they are LEECHES the worst type of separatists they just don't want to declare their independence because they don't want to take any risk or loose one penny of any benefits in the name of somalia. in the future they will always keep demanding more autonomy and at the end they will declare their own country if their future resources matchs their expectations. they will never ever contribute any thing to the somalia federal government.

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[Buraanbur]

Let's take a step back. You said

we isaaqs tell what's in our hearts and minds straight away without thinking about the consequences...at the other hand the mjs are political minded they think before they do

In the context of politics, which one is the correct approach? I think you would agree that it is not only clever, but in ones interest to consider all avenues and every possible consequence before settling on a single course of action. Why is that such a negative thing?

You said

when they act like they are defending Somalia unity its complete deception actually we have more soft spots for somalia than the mjs.

How when Puntland has and continues to take in more internally displaced people than Somaliland? There was a huge scandal when Somaliland wanted to politicize the situation and wanted the IDPs to be declared refugees. We have even taken in more Somalis fleeing the conflict in Yemen. I personally don't believe in fake Somalinimo and see it as a tool opportunistic individuals utilize to further their own political ambitions, but if there is anything called Somalinimo it is helping another Somali even when there is no real gain or benefit for you. Puntland has done just that.

You said

they are LEECHES the worst type of separatists

Tell me how Puntland leeches off of Mogadishu? Does PL get a cut of their taxes? Does the Mogadishu government fund humanitarian projects in the region? Are they helping poor fishermen in Bari fight off trawlers? There is absolutely nothing to leech off of, unless you're talking about AID given in the name of all of Somalia. In that case, Somaliland also gets it cut so why fault Puntland for getting theirs too?

You said

in the future they will always keep demanding more autonomy

Puntland is already semi-autonomous and supports any state that is formed based on the requirements outlined in the constitution ( i.e. SW State and Jubbaland). Self-determination and autonomy for everyone.

You said

they will never ever contribute any thing to the somalia federal government.

Tell me who contributes anything to the SFG? They're funded by a foreign entity, protected by a foreign entity, and can't even make any moves politically without the consultation and approval of the real President of Somalia, Nick Kay.

You have a lot to learn.

[Xamud.]

Where's Xamud.?

Xamud is the mod to clean Pl section. He should protect this section trolls like Bigbreak who's only purpose is to troll.

He might be a troll but as far as I can see he has not done anything wrong as of now. He just asked a simple question.