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Re: A Thread dedicated to the Arab Lovers

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Itrah wrote:
sahal80 wrote:I have posted my relatives pics before and they look like nothing bantu otherwise I would have claimed being black. cadcads first settled in us when they were pure and we mixed only with other somslis like my clan

thats the difference do you get that?

this is how they look like when they mix with bantu

http://different-strands.com/2013/11/04 ... med-ali/ot though some of them who r related to my subsubclan look like pure caucasians who claim being natives who got mixed

so in theory im mixed and my clan call us their cadcads and want to find out my ancestry
War Reer Xamar and Barwaani are Swahili trash you moron. Just because they are light due to Arab input does not remove their Swahili part.
read the history again!

you probably know dna but not the history

sawahili country starts from barawe and bajuni but not all of them r mixed

the south had cushitic speaking population so we look like somali and plus
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zumaale wrote:
BlackVelvet wrote:
I think if a family member did the things you mentioned you would definitely know. Uma bahnid odayal to tell you

I plan on ensuring any children I have are ethnic somalis

You on the other hand could marry an Indonesian and they would still be Dir. Since women don't matter....apparently
So that rules out certain folk :mrgreen:

The bloodline flows through males. So my kids, whatever the Hooyo is, will always belong to my Qoolo and will be Somali by default.

There are some experiences that can only be obtained from primary sources who are not necessarily relatives or being in a war zone as they occur.
I wouldn't rule out that it may have happened but I don't think many people would do things like that. Yes when backed into a corner almost everyone is capable of doing whatever it takes in order to survive but people aren't that evil for no reason


Btw the entire point of this conversation. I'm trying to tell you without having to spell it out that dunya is an illusion. When it comes down to it and you are brought before your maker you will hooyo tiris. And that's what counts; women :mrgreen:
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Itrah, where does it state in Sanchez et al, the T arrived in the Horn 5000 years ago? Please, enlighten me.

Secondly, if it is still being referenced in 2014 how does that make it scientifically redundant? Until more research comes out, we are stuck with it and the 2014 study.

So Herr Itrah, what makes you so adamant that we migrated together and have you written a scientific journal that proves this?

Anyway, like I said only Allah knows how my ancestors arrived in the Horn, all we have is theories from the scientific community.

Bottom line is a Dir T haplogroup carrier and a Darood E-V32 carrier are not of the same bloodline. Plain and simple.
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BlackVelvet wrote:
zumaale wrote:
BlackVelvet wrote:
I think if a family member did the things you mentioned you would definitely know. Uma bahnid odayal to tell you

I plan on ensuring any children I have are ethnic somalis

You on the other hand could marry an Indonesian and they would still be Dir. Since women don't matter....apparently
So that rules out certain folk :mrgreen:

The bloodline flows through males. So my kids, whatever the Hooyo is, will always belong to my Qoolo and will be Somali by default.

There are some experiences that can only be obtained from primary sources who are not necessarily relatives or being in a war zone as they occur.
I wouldn't rule out that it may have happened but I don't think many people would do things like that. Yes when backed into a corner almost everyone is capable of doing whatever it takes in order to survive but people aren't that evil for no reason


Btw the entire point of this conversation. I'm trying to tell you without having to spell it out that dunya is an illusion. When it comes down to it and you are brought before your maker you will hooyo tiris. And that's what counts; women :mrgreen:
The Raxanweyn, Bantu and Cadcads never backed anyone into a corner yet they felt the full force of the Barre Regime and USC wars :mrgreen: .

Anyway, this is the Dunya young lady, in Akhira it will be all about saving our black asses from hell. Not Ma Reer Black Velvet Ba Tahay?
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zumaale wrote:Itrah, where does it state in Sanchez et al, the T arrived in the Horn 5000 years ago? Please, enlighten me.
A compromise Hodgson pulled out of his ass between the various dates provided in the references.
zumaale wrote:Secondly, if it is still being referenced in 2014 how does that make it scientifically redundant? Until more research comes out, we are stuck with it and the 2014 study.
So Herr Itrah, what makes you so adamant that we migrated together and have you written a scientific journal that proves this?
You are making it seem more significant than it actually is. Hodgson does not care about haplogroups and that is not his expertise. His expertise is whole genome analysis and that is where the de novo analysis of that study was. No STRs were analyzed whatsoever. So, I don't even understand why you are bringing it up to support your claims.

Scientists can sometimes be idiots when it comes to things outside their field. Look at this Harvard scientist claiming basically all of the West Eurasian ancestry in the Horn of Africa came with the Semites 3 kya.

http://arxiv.org/abs/1307.8014

I e-mailed him about this providing evidence that it is impossible and subsequently told me that he is working on a new study on East Africa with a better model.
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zumaale wrote:Itrah, where does it state in Sanchez et al, the T arrived in the Horn 5000 years ago? Please, enlighten me.

Secondly, if it is still being referenced in 2014 how does that make it scientifically redundant? Until more research comes out, we are stuck with it and the 2014 study.

So Herr Itrah, what makes you so adamant that we migrated together and have you written a scientific journal that proves this?

Anyway, like I said only Allah knows how my ancestors arrived in the Horn, all we have is theories from the scientific community.

Bottom line is a Dir T haplogroup carrier and a Darood E-V32 carrier are not of the same bloodline. Plain and simple.
I dont know why he holds you back lol

the bottom line is t has no african ancestry while e is native to africa. canza tribe is closer to you than the african tribes ancestry wise

this supports the story of zumaali ram nag

your cushan not cush
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Itrah, it don't matter whatever they come up with next as I have constantly argued only Allah truly knows how we ended up together in the Horn as things stand because outside the Horn, E-V32 and T are not found together in the same numbers. The Sudanese study springs to mind.

What matters to me is bloodline and what is certain is that we belong to two different ancestries.
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zumaale wrote:Itrah, it don't matter whatever they come up with next as I have constantly argued only Allah truly knows how we ended up together in the Horn as things stand because outside the Horn, E-V32 and T are not found together in the same numbers. The Sudanese study springs to mind.

What matters to me is bloodline and what is certain is that we belong to two different ancestries.
I am willing to bet $1000 that the Dir T/other Somali T does not have a separate origin from the E-V32 migratory wave entering the Horn. If I am still around on this forum and this is disproven, you will get that cash. The chances are extremely low that you will be proven right. :mrgreen:
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Remember this is a one way bet Itrah. We will use Baasto's paypal account. Deal.

All current evidence points to you coughing up LOL.

Sahal

Do the test bro because the more results we have, the better picture we get of how different Somali clans are related.
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zumaale wrote:
The Raxanweyn, Bantu and Cadcads never backed anyone into a corner yet they felt the full force of the Barre Regime and USC wars :mrgreen: .

Anyway, this is the Dunya young lady, in Akhira it will be all about saving our black asses from hell. Not Ma Reer Black Velvet Ba Tahay?
That is the most important day of all our lives and yes that day your kid will be counted as your wife's child, you become irrelevant :| :lol:


So given that you've changed the subject to innocent but unrelated bystanders. Does that mean you agree that wiil oo diley habar yartiis is really not something that could have happened in the scale that you initially claimed :mrgreen:
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That is the most important day of all our lives and yes that day your kid will be counted as your wife's child, you become irrelevant :| :lol:


So given that you've changed the subject to innocent but unrelated bystanders. Does that mean you agree that wiil oo diley habar yartiis is really not something that could have happened in the scale that you initially claimed :mrgreen:
Huuno, I was not referring to barbarity of that proportion. I was talking about individuals taking part in clan wars against their Reer Apti and partaking in the savagery that followed.

I would be lying if I said I have come across a Habaryaro Killer :lol:.

You can have Akhira BV, on this earth thou shalt be an incubator for a Farax belonging to Qabil X. I pity that fool because I cannot see you making him Landheer by popping one out biannually. :mrgreen:
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zumaale wrote:Remember this is a one way bet Itrah. We will use Baasto's paypal account. Deal.

All current evidence points to you coughing up LOL.

Sahal

Do the test bro because the more results we have, the better picture we get of how different Somali clans are related.
yeah im glad we have hindo-kushan stock. i have decided and will be ready for it soon then I will post the results but its the autosomal dna.
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sahal80 wrote:yeah im glad we have hindo-kushan stock. i have decided and will be ready for it soon then I will post the results but its the autosomal dna.
If you take 23andMe, you will get your Y-lineage and MT-lineage for free alongside au-DNA.

You will probably get a high West African score instead of ''hindo-kushan'', lmao.
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zumaale wrote:
Huuno, I was not referring to barbarity of that proportion. I was talking about individuals taking part in clan wars against their Reer Apti and partaking in the savagery that followed.

I would be lying if I said I have come across a Habaryaro Killer :lol:.

You can have Akhira BV, on this earth thou shalt be an incubator for a Farax belonging to Qabil X. I pity that fool because I cannot see you making him Landheer by popping one out biannually. :mrgreen:
It's a good thing I am not attracted to short-sighted men then :mrgreen:
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Re: A Thread dedicated to the Arab Lovers

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Itrah wrote:
sahal80 wrote:yeah im glad we have hindo-kushan stock. i have decided and will be ready for it soon then I will post the results but its the autosomal dna.
If you take 23andMe, you will get your Y-lineage and MT-lineage for free alongside au-DNA.

You will probably get a high West African score instead of ''hindo-kushan'', lmao.
kkkkkk you just jealous. I know looking like your former healthy minister sucks lol
heres my close relatives
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