Is it hard to be a Somali single mother in western world?

[grandpakhalif]

My children are not Somali. Ma qasab baa to marry Somali? Who wants to marry into a society which deems your child a different tribe entirely to you unless you marry your cousin?

my cousin is somali through and through and wallahi our family raised her. She will get angry if someone tells her shes not Somali. Those who say mixed somalis arent somalis should get a life...

[gedo_gurl]

I agree 100%, Somali is through luuqadda and how you're raised. How can people accept Yemeni cadcad who worship Yemen as home but not mixed Somalis who see Somalia as their true home? I follow this Chef on instagram and he's half African American, he looks like a lot of the Somalis I see in Mogadishu videos..he said "Somalia is my true home"....He's never been, never raised there....and he went to meet Hassan Sheikh as well...that's more than a lot of diaspora raised 20 somethings can say.

[Basra-]

I agree 100%, Somali is through luuqadda and how you're raised. How can people accept Yemeni cadcad who worship Yemen as home but not mixed Somalis who see Somalia as their true home? I follow this Chef on instagram and he's half African American, he looks like a lot of the Somalis I see in Mogadishu videos..he said "Somalia is my true home"....He's never been, never raised there....and he went to meet Hassan Sheikh as well...that's more than a lot of diaspora raised 20 somethings can say.

Akhaaas Tuuuuf! Adooon lover!

[gedo_gurl]

Chef Roble

[Bandit]

I agree 100%, Somali is through luuqadda and how you're raised. How can people accept Yemeni cadcad who worship Yemen as home but not mixed Somalis who see Somalia as their true home? I follow this Chef on instagram and he's half African American, he looks like a lot of the Somalis I see in Mogadishu videos..he said "Somalia is my true home"....He's never been, never raised there....and he went to meet Hassan Sheikh as well...that's more than a lot of diaspora raised 20 somethings can say.

Mix does not exist you are what your dad is if this black has somali father his somali if not his not somali how hard is it to understand

[Hyperactive]

I agree 100%, Somali is through luuqadda and how you're raised. How can people accept Yemeni cadcad who worship Yemen as home but not mixed Somalis who see Somalia as their true home? I follow this Chef on instagram and he's half African American, he looks like a lot of the Somalis I see in Mogadishu videos..he said "Somalia is my true home"....He's never been, never raised there....and he went to meet Hassan Sheikh as well...that's more than a lot of diaspora raised 20 somethings can say.

cause his father is somali dear. we follow our father's name and tribe and country.

if his mother was somali, that is whole different story.

[gedo_gurl]

Hooyo counts for nothing miyaa? 9 months of growing the baby, 18 hours of giving birth, 2 years of breastfeeding, a lifetime of worry....none of this means anything? Now you know why I didn't marry a Somali. My kids are half me and whatever I am, they are 50% of it.

[Firefly]

Hooyo counts for nothing miyaa? 9 months of growing the baby, 18 hours of giving birth, 2 years of breastfeeding, a lifetime of worry....none of this means anything? Now you know why I didn't marry a Somali. My kids are half me and whatever I am, they are 50% of it.

In Islam lineage is traced through the father, so we can't claim a lineage that we are not. If the child is conceived through a halal marriage, he/she will attributed to the father because Islam came to protect and preserve lineage. With that said, the Deen doesn't dictate what culture or nationality you have, which means you can be culturally Somali even if your father isn't Somali - there's nothing wrong with embracing the culture, customs, and language of your mother. So it isn't really a Somali issue but an Islamic issue because Somalis are Muslims it is also part of our culture and we follow this method.

Of course, the mother matters. She matters a great deal and Islam has bestowed on her an honoured position.

[gedo_gurl]

Hold on a minute...you can protect the lineage of your father, while still honouring that your mother is responsible for half of your genes. Why a kid be half Somali half X? How does that erase lineage? In our culture, your mum still has a clan and they are your reer abti, not erased...why not the same treatment for reer abti from X country?

[Firefly]

Hold on a minute...you can protect the lineage of your father, while still honouring that your mother is responsible for half of your genes. Why a kid be half Somali half X? How does that erase lineage? In our culture, your mum still has a clan and they are your reer abti, not erased...why not the same treatment for reer abti from X country?

Even in Somali culture, if the father is from qabiil A, and the mother qabiil B, then that child claims qabiil A. He is not half A and half B. That's not how it works, that's a Western concept. However, you should show respect and honour your reer abti and among Somalis a lot of respect and honour is reserved for reer abti in any case. You can't say I'm half this or half that. You are X qabiil, you are X ethnicity etc.

[Bandit]

Any half breed with somali mother is considered outcast
the somali ethnic dna comes from the father not the mother she is merely a vessel for the baby.
Any outcast has no home in somalia

[Itrah]

Unemployed single mothers get more money from the government than what employed minimum wage workers are paid around here. The system is a joke.

They also get preferential treatment in the housing market.

The government incentivizes people to just have kids. They are that desperate.

[Ismail87]

Hooyo counts for nothing miyaa? 9 months of growing the baby, 18 hours of giving birth, 2 years of breastfeeding, a lifetime of worry....none of this means anything? Now you know why I didn't marry a Somali. My kids are half me and whatever I am, they are 50% of it.

Why are you acting like this is something new to you? If the kids don't have a Somali father, they don't belong to a Somali clan. Stop blaming it on Somali culture, we are not the only patrilineal tribe in the world.

[gegiroor]

Hooyo counts for nothing miyaa? 9 months of growing the baby, 18 hours of giving birth, 2 years of breastfeeding, a lifetime of worry....none of this means anything? Now you know why I didn't marry a Somali. My kids are half me and whatever I am, they are 50% of it.

In Islam lineage is traced through the father, so we can't claim a lineage that we are not. If the child is conceived through a halal marriage, he/she will attributed to the father because Islam came to protect and preserve lineage. With that said, the Deen doesn't dictate what culture or nationality you have, which means you can be culturally Somali even if your father isn't Somali - there's nothing wrong with embracing the culture, customs, and language of your mother. So it isn't really a Somali issue but an Islamic issue because Somalis are Muslims it is also part of our culture and we follow this method.

Of course, the mother matters. She matters a great deal and Islam has bestowed on her an honoured position.

Maasha'Allah, it is great to have people like Firefly here who can remind us the basics. The site (Somalinet) is really live again with people like you. Thank you!

[gegiroor]

Unemployed single mothers get more money from the government than what employed minimum wage workers are paid around here. The system is a joke.

They also get preferential treatment in the housing market.

The government incentivizes people to just have kids. They are that desperate.

Itrah bro, a single mom with several children should get more money from someone who makes minimum wage due to the raising cost of living and inflation. However, if the person making the minimum wage has a family, they report their income to the social services and they get more help from the government as well. Therefore, in my view, the system is balanced.

We should also remember in Europe, there is a generational gap where many families opted not to have kids, and the European governments don't have a choice but to support those families who are having children in order to narrow the generation gap. Isn't that so?

Thanks!