Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
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Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
To my understanding, the sole reason for having kids is for them to help you when you grow old and cannot help yourself. Kids in the west do not believe its their responsibility to take care of you. If you get old, you go to nursing home and use your social security money till you die. They will then take you out of the nursing home when you die and burry you. So whats the point of going through all that hard work for them just to have them go about their business when they grow old. I would suggest either take your kids to africa to grow up there or have kids there at all. Waa qasaaro fawqal qasaaro.
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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
You will have good kids if you raise them the way Allah intended. Somali people need to make Islam and our culture the bedrock of bringing up children.
In a Western society, we are keenly aware of its corrupting effect, as are many of the Muslim community. However, this awareness has not stopped many parents underestimating their role, particularly in the early years. Anyone who spends even a short time with children in a state primary school will be shocked at their rudeness, aggressiveness, selfishness and lack of respect – even from the Muslim children. No Muslim could want their child to become like them, hence we send our children to after school madrassahs or Islamic primary schools. However, many children who attend Islamic primary schools also display many of the same bad characteristics, although generally they are less intense.
The children with the best characteristics live in homes where parents are aware of Islamic values, serious about establishing them and attentive to protecting them from the dangerous influences of the Western culture. It appears, that those children who are worst, live in homes where parents are neglectful in any of these aspects, often expecting they will have Islamic personalities later on. Sadly, such children generally adopt the personalities of the people they mix with from the Western society.
In a Western society, we are keenly aware of its corrupting effect, as are many of the Muslim community. However, this awareness has not stopped many parents underestimating their role, particularly in the early years. Anyone who spends even a short time with children in a state primary school will be shocked at their rudeness, aggressiveness, selfishness and lack of respect – even from the Muslim children. No Muslim could want their child to become like them, hence we send our children to after school madrassahs or Islamic primary schools. However, many children who attend Islamic primary schools also display many of the same bad characteristics, although generally they are less intense.
The children with the best characteristics live in homes where parents are aware of Islamic values, serious about establishing them and attentive to protecting them from the dangerous influences of the Western culture. It appears, that those children who are worst, live in homes where parents are neglectful in any of these aspects, often expecting they will have Islamic personalities later on. Sadly, such children generally adopt the personalities of the people they mix with from the Western society.
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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
Somalis just phuk as soon as they feel the heat. no condom, no body knows or use any birth control methods halal wala haram. your question is invalid dad yagaba murqan lagu dhalaad purpose waydiinaysaa. its all about kacsi.com .
arintaa waan ka gabyoo waxan idhi
isku duruga kala duruga uumiga is daaray. lugta dib u yar durkinteeda, takale soo debcinteeda dad (carur) wixii kasoo dhex baxa daayinkaa u miciina.
arintaa waan ka gabyoo waxan idhi
isku duruga kala duruga uumiga is daaray. lugta dib u yar durkinteeda, takale soo debcinteeda dad (carur) wixii kasoo dhex baxa daayinkaa u miciina.
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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
The problem is, somalis have to many kids they can barely take care of.
Caruur aadan waqti iyo maskax toona oo hayn aduunkan ha keenin.Wadanki ehelki ba ku caawinaya, jaariada qabsan karta, mujtamici baa ilmihi toosinaya hadu wada khalad qaato.Laakin qurbaha, waa adiga iyo naagtada iyo daycare jihaad kugala jiro oo rabo ina ilmaha laga qaato.
Just use ur head and teach ur wife about birth control.Problem solved.
Caruur aadan waqti iyo maskax toona oo hayn aduunkan ha keenin.Wadanki ehelki ba ku caawinaya, jaariada qabsan karta, mujtamici baa ilmihi toosinaya hadu wada khalad qaato.Laakin qurbaha, waa adiga iyo naagtada iyo daycare jihaad kugala jiro oo rabo ina ilmaha laga qaato.
Just use ur head and teach ur wife about birth control.Problem solved.
Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
If you think taking your kids to Africa will make any difference then I got some bad news for you son. Its pretty much the same there. Parents from the US, UK, Canada, European countries and even folks from Australia have gathered to send their kids to Africa. Once they're all there, its pretty much the same environment they had in the west, except they have more freedom (legally too, kids drive on major roads with rented cars at 14-15 years old, no license). So it won't make a difference. What's going to make the difference is the amount of effort you put into bringing up these kids, nourishing them, and guiding them. The amount of effort and work you put into anything in life (i.e your kids, your education, your health) will proportionally reflect on the results and success you'll get from it.
Yet sadly most of these Somali parents never figured that out.
Yet sadly most of these Somali parents never figured that out.
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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
salool wrote:The problem is, somalis have to many kids they can barely take care of.
Caruur aadan waqti iyo maskax toona oo hayn aduunkan ha keenin.Wadanki ehelki ba ku caawinaya, jaariada qabsan karta, mujtamici baa ilmihi toosinaya hadu wada khalad qaato.Laakin qurbaha, waa adiga iyo naagtada iyo daycare jihaad kugala jiro oo rabo ina ilmaha laga qaato.
Just use ur head and teach ur wife about birth control.Problem solved.
gabadh waxa jirta aan ilmadeernahay, oo xalay na so buuqatay, waxay leedahay 8 caruur ah! caruurta qaar bay guria kaga timid sababto ah van 9 qof qaada ma jiro, waxan ku idhi maxa ku cadibay, nolosheedii siday noqotay wad yaabaysa, bal ka waran adigu 8 caruur ah ku dhex jira, waba ciqaab aduun, waxay ku leedahay malintay wada waawaynadan ayaad jelous iga noqon doonta
Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
Truer words have never been spokenzeroand80 wrote:If you think taking your kids to Africa will make any difference then I got some bad news for you son. Its pretty much the same there. Parents from the US, UK, Canada, European countries and even folks from Australia have gathered to send their kids to Africa. Once they're all there, its pretty much the same environment they had in the west, except they have more freedom (legally too, kids drive on major roads with rented cars at 14-15 years old, no license). So it won't make a difference. What's going to make the difference is the amount of effort you put into bringing up these kids, nourishing them, and guiding them. The amount of effort and work you put into anything in life (i.e your kids, your education, your health) will proportionally reflect on the results and success you'll get from it.
Yet sadly most of these Somali parents never figured that out.
Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
Somali parents in the US/Canada/Europe should be very careful on how they should raise their kids. It would be ideal to send your children to a private Islamic school, where they could be instilled with the rights values and character.
However, since private Islamic schools are unaffordable to most Somali families, then we should create after-school tutoring programs, duugsis, and weekend programs so that these Muslim kids could associate with each other, learn about their deen, and help build better character. Toronto alone has 10% of it's population being Muslim. That's a good 600,000 people (the size of Bosaso) and it would give us a better ability to pool our resources and create these programs.
However, since private Islamic schools are unaffordable to most Somali families, then we should create after-school tutoring programs, duugsis, and weekend programs so that these Muslim kids could associate with each other, learn about their deen, and help build better character. Toronto alone has 10% of it's population being Muslim. That's a good 600,000 people (the size of Bosaso) and it would give us a better ability to pool our resources and create these programs.
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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
I have seen Somalis who were born and bred in the west who not only have good heads on their shoulders but also have close ties to their Somali culture than the FOB Somalis gangster wannabees thugs with sagging pants all the way to their knees. Its not where you raise your kids, its how you raise your kids, don't make the environment the scapegoat, and please cease this stupidity at once child!
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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
Its true! I have seen too many of Those somali fobs who are either what we call pretty white boy wannabe or ghetto african american wannabes! I have seen many examplatory somali kids in the west speak perfect somali go to the Mosque receive they're education take part in somali affairs
Why do you think asians in general suceed in school and have relatively non existent crime rate! They love they're culture & promote it and put tiresome effort into putting sweat tears and money into their kids to come out as a healthy products that reflect on them the parents.
Environment can be critical factor only when the parents let it be and fail at their job!
Almost moronic to use environment Outside the house as a scapegoat! If you do ur job inside the house as a family you dont have to worry about the corrupt environment Outside infecting ur kids
As i have always said parents should teach they're kids how to Think and not what to think!
Cuz when you teach ur kids at an early age how to think he/she will Then make the correct wise choices on her/his own without you telling them or guiding them!
Somali parents think that they're parenting ends once they put a Roof over their kids head give them food and provide schooling.
Parenting is a obligatory job!
Somalis need to learn how to use a condom or birth control people and stop promoting young kids without a stable career and life to get married and pop dozens of kids!
Why do you think asians in general suceed in school and have relatively non existent crime rate! They love they're culture & promote it and put tiresome effort into putting sweat tears and money into their kids to come out as a healthy products that reflect on them the parents.
Environment can be critical factor only when the parents let it be and fail at their job!
Almost moronic to use environment Outside the house as a scapegoat! If you do ur job inside the house as a family you dont have to worry about the corrupt environment Outside infecting ur kids
As i have always said parents should teach they're kids how to Think and not what to think!
Cuz when you teach ur kids at an early age how to think he/she will Then make the correct wise choices on her/his own without you telling them or guiding them!
Somali parents think that they're parenting ends once they put a Roof over their kids head give them food and provide schooling.
Parenting is a obligatory job!
Somalis need to learn how to use a condom or birth control people and stop promoting young kids without a stable career and life to get married and pop dozens of kids!
Last edited by TheMightyNomad on Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
Spread your genes, make your host country less white. 
Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
It is their....... not they're.TheMightyNomad wrote:Its true! I have seen too many of Those somali fobs who are either what we call pretty white boy wannabe or ghetto african american wannabes! I have seen many examplatory somali kids in the west speak perfect somali go to the Mosque receive they're education take part in somali affairs
Why do you think asians in general suceed in school and have relatively non existent crime rate! They love they're culture & promote it and put tiresome effort into putting sweat tears and money into they're kids to come out as a healthy products that reflect on them the parents.
Environment can be critical factor only when the parents let it be and fail at they're job!

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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
Who cares my phone autocorrects it to they're instead of their!Itrah wrote:
It is their....... not they're.
Trust me Even tho im not a native english speaker i know the difference

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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
Yes let us infest the west with bunch of lost Big forheaded buckteeth Skinny somalis!Itrah wrote:Spread your genes, make your host country less white.
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Re: Having Kids in the west, Whats the purpose
I do not intend to raise children in the west, morality in the west is all relative, what is repulsive today, is admired tommorow. I will raise my future children in a wholesome natural environment.
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