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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?

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TheMightyNomad wrote:Bilis don't bother answering her! She is ignorant troll! She won't comprehend the facts & logic even stats you bring
Sax walaal. :up:
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Bilis wrote:
mahoka wrote:somali is nigger (skinny)

be proud of niggerness brothers and sisters

dr mooryan yalawax bintu digir post some pics of somalis
Let him, and I'll be sure to return the favor. 8-)

True Hamitic Somalis won't be misrepresented just because you personally may have some Bantu/Nilote jareer folks in your family tree.
i am the lightest and most beutiful of somali race, i am of the noble and esteemed house of isaaq the richest and most powerful.

i have a light sexy skin but majority of somali are not like me, most are very dark
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?

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mahoka wrote:
Bilis wrote:
mahoka wrote:somali is nigger (skinny)

be proud of niggerness brothers and sisters

dr mooryan yalawax bintu digir post some pics of somalis
Let him, and I'll be sure to return the favor. 8-)

True Hamitic Somalis won't be misrepresented just because you personally may have some Bantu/Nilote jareer folks in your family tree.
i am the lightest and most beutiful of somali race, i am of the noble and esteemed house of isaaq the richest and most powerful.

i have a light sexy skin but majority of somali are not like me, most are very dark
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?

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mahoka wrote:i am the lightest and most beutiful of somali race, i am of the noble and esteemed house of isaaq the richest and most powerful.

i have a light sexy skin but majority of somali are not like me, most are very dark
Sure you are. :lol:

It's one of the common tactics of the Afrocentric types to claim that they are proper Hamitic Somalis when they have been found out (though they of course are nothing of the sort).

By the way, skin tone doesn't necessarily correlate with beauty. The Bajuni artist Asha Abdow is quite light-skinned, yet few if any Hamitic Somalis would consider her attractive. This is mainly due to her Negroid features, which lie well outside of the Somali beauty standard spectrum:

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They would instead regard an actual ethnic Somali like Halima Ahmed as beautiful, no matter how dark- or light-skinned she may be. This is because her actual features do, by contrast, fit comfortably within the Hamitic Somali range:

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Bilis wrote:
mahoka wrote:i am the lightest and most beutiful of somali race, i am of the noble and esteemed house of isaaq the richest and most powerful.

i have a light sexy skin but majority of somali are not like me, most are very dark
Sure you are. :lol:

It's one of the common tactics of the Afrocentric types to claim that they are proper Hamitic Somalis when they have been found out (though they of course are nothing of the sort).

By the way, skin tone doesn't necessarily correlate with beauty. The Bajuni artist Asha Abdow is quite light-skinned, yet few if any Hamitic Somalis would consider her attractive. This is mainly due to her Negroid features, which lie well outside of the Somali beauty standard spectrum:

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They would instead regard an actual ethnic Somali like Halima Ahmed as beautiful, no matter how dark- or light-skinned she may be. This is because her actual features do, by contrast, fit comfortably within the Hamitic Somali range:

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go away you confused mj rat
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mahoka wrote:go away you confused mj rat
Oh, so now I'm the confused one? :lol:

Do me a favor will ya? Plug in your personal photo into this match algorithm, and post your results here.

If you are indeed who you claim to be, your highest lookalike matches should probably be with Indian types. This is because they are the main people in that system who have both brown skin tone and Caucasoid features, like the average Somali (there are unfortunately few other HOA folks in it at the moment, so that's the best it can do). If your features are more angular, you may instead get highest matches with some Euro types. Before you do so, also try and choose an image where you are facing forward, the lighting is adequate, and your features are discernible.

Here's an example of what you should get:

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Bilis wrote:
Robotic wrote:My ancestors doesn't need to point out to me the obvious, that we are black. At that time people never thought about those things. All they were thinking about was their own survival. Do you need to follow everything you ancestors did back then? If you did, why are you muslim because our ancestors were never muslims all the way back.
How exactly is that obvious to you? Are you referring to skin tone? If so, you should know that a slight majority of Somalis, Ethiopians and Eritreans actually carry the same main gene for lighter pigmentation as found in all West Eurasian populations, not the ancestral pigmentation allele that is carried by most Sub-Saharan Africans, Aboriginal Australians, etc.:

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Ironically, modern studies on ancient peoples have now established that many old populations outside of Africa were dark-skinned, including in parts of Europe. This is because all human populations were originally swarthy, carrying the ancestral pigmentation variant. The lighter skin pigmentation allele evolved only a few thousand years ago.

So even if most Somalis didn't carry that allele, it wouldn't have changed their actual ancestry one bit:
“The result of HLA class I and class II antigen frequencies show that the Somali population appear more similar to Arab or Caucasoid than to African populations. The results are consistent with hypothesis, supported by cultural and historical evidence, of common origin of the Somali population. This study will serve as a reference for further anthropological studies, as well as studies of associations between HLA and disease.”
Further proof of this is that only around 30% of Afars carry the lighter pigmentation allele. Yet despite this, they too, like Somalis and other Afro-Asiatic-speaking Horn groups, are still essentially of Puntite descent.

By the way, if you want to know what the Puntites themselves actually looked like, see the murals on the Hatshepsut temple; they were virtually identical to the ancient Egyptians.

Puntite King Perahu, Queen Ati and a Puntite royal official:

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Other Puntite royal attendants:

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Or see the Keftiu wall paintings from the tomb of Rekhmire, who was the Vizier to Pharaoh Thutmosis III. The Puntites are the reddish folks at the top, near the Nilotes; the other reddish individuals are Cretans, Kushites and Ancient Egyptians:

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Or see the actual Puntite statuettes that were recently excavated in northern Somalia:

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Robotic wrote:If you did, why are you muslim because our ancestors were never muslims all the way back.
Sweetheart, ancestral Somalis (the Puntites) practiced a religion closely related to that adhered to by other Afro-Asiatic populations in the Middle East, just like modern Muslim Somalis do now. Even the old Somali term for God, Ebbe, is the same in Aramaic: :lol:

"While the Cananite god ‘Pal’ was still present in Somalia in the same sense in one or two words, the ancient Aramaic name for the almighty, EBBE, was to this day the most commonly used names for God besides the Islamic ‘Allah’[...] Pagan Arabia’s most important god, HUBAL, was none other than the Somali HUBAL, co-opted and given an Arabised sound."

http://sayidka.blogspot.ca/2006/01/land ... omali.html
I swear there is something that I can remember as a young man growing up in a nomadic life: When children are playing and one of them is chased, we used to cite "Baaloow i bixi". I've never thought of what 'Baal' stood for, but today I can relate to what Bilis is saying. The 'Baal' is the 'Pal' that Bilis cited here.

Another thing that Somali nomads were doing at the beginning of the rainy gu' (spring) season is, they celebrate "Nowruz" (Neyruush in Somali). People used to throw things into fire and used to say "Shuushoow bax, sharow guur, Neyruush". Ask any Somali nomad or someone who grew up in nomadic life, and he (or she) will confirm it.

Alhamdulillaah, we're Muslims today, and not Zoroastrians, but at least we can put things in perspective.

I will dig into more into Hubal and see if we cite anywhere in Somali culture.

Thanks Bilis. You're well-informed fella. Is it ok if I called you a sister as the name suggests?
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gegiroor wrote:I swear there is something that I can remember as a young man growing up in a nomadic life: When children are playing and one of them is chased, we used to cite "Baaloow i bixi". I've never thought of what 'Baal' stood for, but today I can relate to what Bilis is saying. The 'Baal' is the 'Pal' that Bilis cited here.

Another thing that Somali nomads were doing at the beginning of the rainy gu' (spring) season is, they celebrate "Nowruz" (Neyruush in Somali). People used to throw things into fire and used to say "Shuushoow bax, sharow guur, Neyruush". Ask any Somali nomad or someone who grew up in nomadic life, and he (or she) will confirm it.

Alhamdulillaah, we're Muslims today, and not Zoroastrians, but at least we can put things in perspective.

I will dig into more into Hubal and see if we cite anywhere in Somali culture.

Thanks Bilis. You're well-informed fella. Is it ok if I called you a sister as the name suggests?
Cool sxb, but I'm a dude (like the Sultan in my avatar). Bilis means noble; nothing more, nothing less. :)

Nayruus celebrates the Persian New Year, Nowruz. It was introduced to parts of konfuurta in antiquity by Persian settlers. Unlike Ebbe and Baal worship, the festival isn't part of ancient Afro-Asiatic tradition (Persians are Indo-European).
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Bilis wrote:
gegiroor wrote:I swear there is something that I can remember as a young man growing up in a nomadic life: When children are playing and one of them is chased, we used to cite "Baaloow i bixi". I've never thought of what 'Baal' stood for, but today I can relate to what Bilis is saying. The 'Baal' is the 'Pal' that Bilis cited here.

Another thing that Somali nomads were doing at the beginning of the rainy gu' (spring) season is, they celebrate "Nowruz" (Neyruush in Somali). People used to throw things into fire and used to say "Shuushoow bax, sharow guur, Neyruush". Ask any Somali nomad or someone who grew up in nomadic life, and he (or she) will confirm it.

Alhamdulillaah, we're Muslims today, and not Zoroastrians, but at least we can put things in perspective.

I will dig into more into Hubal and see if we cite anywhere in Somali culture.

Thanks Bilis. You're well-informed fella. Is it ok if I called you a sister as the name suggests?
Cool sxb, but I'm a dude (like the Sultan in my avatar). Bilis means noble; nothing more, nothing less. :)

Nayruus celebrates the Persian New Year, Nowruz. It was introduced to parts of konfuurta in antiquity by Persian settlers. Unlike Ebbe and Baal worship, the festival isn't part of ancient Afro-Asiatic tradition (Persians are Indo-European).
Actually Dabshid is actually the real somali new year and the south call it dabshid. The north loaned a word from persians, but celebrate the same thing. The north celebrate it for Waaq and north celebrate it fro Ebbe.
Somalia: Dab Shid – An ancient pre-Islamic culture that evolved into religion and culture

its a misconception to think Dabshid was introduced by persians, there is no evidence of it beyond a persian loan word which is used interchangably from region to region.

i read it in a book that somalis call their new year'' The feast of the pharaoh''. Can you or anyone confirm this for me?

and hoobaal is a song or a prayer of some sort



Hoo Baale in literall translation means ''Here God''

its a song somalis used to cite to pay tribute to god.

song goes:

Eeho Heebaallow haaya waaye
Hoobaallayey Hoobaallayey
Hoobaallayey Hoobe
Ey hoobaallaayow HooBaall
Ey hoobaallaayow HooBaall
Hoo Baalley.
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?

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Lol. Baal is a pronounced BA'AL (the apostraphe corresponds to the Somali "c" sound or 3ein in arabic and is a Syrio-semitic storm-god. It has nothing to do with the Somali word Hoobaal.
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