Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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PureQ wrote:Ethiopia attacked Somalia first during ICU era and birthed Al Shabab. Kenya was not in presence at all that time.

However, ever since their intervention in 2011, Al Shabab managed to attacked Kenya inside their soil and even, the capital Noirobi the next day which affected them hugely in terms of economic, tourism etc, they were dragged upon and became even more vulnerable today.

There was never terrorist attack in Ethiopia at all. Even when they have more troops in Somalia, uses Somali politicians as puppets and controls AMISOM indirectly. Yet, Al Shabab has no intention of attacking them?

Why?
Al itihad attacked ethiopia as a result they got obliterated at their main base in gedo.

No somali is brave enough to fuk with ethiopia since said barre aun.
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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AwRastaale wrote:It's all to do with the fact that Ethio shares more active border with SL and Djib whilr most southerners infiltrate Kenya.

If southerners were coming into Ethio same rate as Kenya then Ethio would be hit hard.

Ethio understands this and only allows people to enter Djib and SL especially students, businesses and travellers hence why Ethio airline flies to SL 3 times weekly.
Lmao Al Shabab is a terrorist organisations which recruits internationally A. It has many members from somaliland B. It has members from ethiopia itself

You analysis is BS ! But go ahead keep sukin amxaar anal seepage waxaad ka faiido aan aragno :)
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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Adali,

That's the truth son. It's all about neighbors. If you have stable neighbor, you will be stable.

Southerners have a taste for violence, corruption and lawlessness.

With or without al shabab, the south will always be violent and the violence will spill over into Kenya.

On top of that Kenya is as corrupt as the south and its security is always jeopardised by officers willing to accept bribes from the south be it violence or illegals.

Ethio just has better neighbors where it counts. Its security is tough too. People are loyal to Ethiopia unlike Kenya.
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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AwRastaale wrote:Adali,

That's the truth son. It's all about neighbors. If you have stable neighbor, you will be stable.

Southerners have a taste for violence, corruption and lawlessness.

With or without al shabab, the south will always be violent and the violence will spill over into Kenya.

On top of that Kenya is as corrupt as the south and its security is always jeopardised by officers willing to accept bribes from the south be it violence or illegals.

Ethio just has better neighbors where it counts. Its security is tough too. People are loyal to Ethiopia unlike Kenya.
Both ethiopia and Kenya commit massive human right abuses and they target somalis. South north makes little difference. At the end of the day somali is somali. I appreciate you want to distance yourself from south ugandishu and kikuyu-kismaayo. Even I as a southie will tell you politics is dirty and corruption is very high. But the problem is your lack of responsibility for somalinimo and legacy of your ancestors. I have some dignity. You are far above habesho
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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your answer Taxes
Ethiopia pays Taxes to alshabaab, According to A report, al-Shabaab's support in Somalia was often based on financial considerations rather than religious or ideological ones, especially among its rank and file fighters. These were paid US$100-300 with a US$400 bonus for new recruits.

Ethiopia and shabaab have an agreement, and as long as Ethiopia pays taxes they are free from attacks.
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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Geographic - North Kenya is all desert and lawless apart from few guards so it makes it easier for Al Shabab to bypass it. Southern Somalia lies on the territories of Ogaden region I think so the security is tight in the Ogaden which makes it impossible to infiltrate.

Intel - Kenyan intelligence operatives can't be compared to Ethiopia who have been operating in the HOA for many decades due to US support. Kenya on the other hand, chose to become imperialistic just recently because of the war on Somalia.

Allies - Puntland and Somaliland are allies of Ethiopia so they make sure Al Shabab won't gain foothold of these two autonomous regions which lies on the borders of E.Ethiopia where checkpoints on both sides are active.

Strategic - Al Shabab are not stupid to attack them because they know TPLF will make another excuse to invade Somalia again and they can't afford taking different enemies in all corners. They chose Kenya because their troops are mostly in the strategic Southern parts where their strongholds are.
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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I see. I see. Thanks for the response to all!
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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Kudo wrote:Ethiopia has close contact with the leadership in the amniyat group of Alshabab.
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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So many conspiracies on ethiopia working with al shabaab, but where is the evidence?
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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Revolutionary wrote:Geographic - North Kenya is all desert and lawless apart from few guards so it makes it easier for Al Shabab to bypass it. Southern Somalia lies on the territories of Ogaden region I think so the security is tight in the Ogaden which makes it impossible to infiltrate.

Intel - Kenyan intelligence operatives can't be compared to Ethiopia who have been operating in the HOA for many decades due to US support. Kenya on the other hand, chose to become imperialistic just recently because of the war on Somalia.

Allies - Puntland and Somaliland are allies of Ethiopia so they make sure Al Shabab won't gain foothold of these two autonomous regions which lies on the borders of E.Ethiopia where checkpoints on both sides are active.

Strategic - Al Shabab are not stupid to attack them because they know TPLF will make another excuse to invade Somalia again and they can't afford taking different enemies in all corners. They chose Kenya because their troops are mostly in the strategic Southern parts where their strongholds are.
Yes, almost correct besides al shabaab in galgala, puntland :up:
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Re: Why is Kenya a victim of terrorism but not Ethiopia?

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The real reason has to do with proximity and relations, kenya is closer to al shabaab stronghold in southern somalia. somalia and kenya are also known for wide scale corruption leaving the border open to al shabaab to cross easily with bribes. Also puntland still struggles against al shabaab (now daacish) in battles at galgala which is near bosaso, northern eastern tip of somalia.

while on other hand ethiopia major city road links connect directly to somaliland, where al shabaab doesnt have a foothold at all. And the two states work together to maintain peace and stability in the horn of Africa.

somaliland is ethiopia and djibouti's last line of defense against somalia's anarchy.

It depends on you and your neighbors how you get along and work together, that's all.
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