Lughaya Is Our Land.

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Insha allah the people will continue to live in peace. No to colaad and nabadiids.
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lughaye is samaroon degaan,there is a reason it is in awdal,iidor land grabbing is unacceptable,.
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Judging from your comments, I'm pretty sure none of you set foot in the region you are talking about.

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Maxa ku dhex dhigay labada nin ee kaftamaya. Na xishood u raga ka dhex bax.
AwRastaale wrote:Lughaya is SL but in terms of reer, it is Ciise territory.

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Stick to Tigray affairs. You know nothing about Lughaya.
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blood wrote:lughaye is samaroon degaan,there is a reason it is in awdal,iidor land grabbing is unacceptable,.
Not you too blood don't join the bandwagon :comeon: awdal and sool was made by afweyne in 1984 while he was battling snm so don't believe everything is so clear cut, before afweyne and zoomalia gov people use to live peacefully and coexist, anyways your from zoomalia it's better you focus on how you can stop darood kicking you out the jubba or completing hiraan and shabelle, so mind your business.
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lughaye is gadabruusi degaan and with ciise mamaasan minority...nearest sacad musa degaan is sabowanag on the coast in between lughaye iyo ceel shiekh... which is several km away and is settled by bah-gabo iyo some makahill...tolkay kibirka waa lagu kufaa...
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Djiboutian,

I assume you resent the Issa and Gadabursi because they way they may have treated you in Djibouti but no Isaac is going to back injustice.

Personally I have no idea who dominates Lughaya but I know there are Issa there and that whole region is neglected by SL.

Most Issa left for Djibouti to find better services.

I never heard of SM in Lughaya but that doesn't mean they don't live there.

If you have facts share it and hopefully Issa not accepting you as a Djiboutian won't cloud your judgement.
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I keep telling yall there is ciise, gadabursi, sacad muuse in lughaya it doesn't matter who is more because none of them are not going give up the land.
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SayyidUmar wrote:lughaye is gadabruusi degaan and with ciise mamaasan minority...nearest sacad musa degaan is sabowanag on the coast in between lughaye iyo ceel shiekh... which is several km away and is settled by bah-gabo iyo some makahill...tolkay kibirka waa lagu kufaa...
and apparently gadabursi was the ones that got shot at the other day.
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AwRastaale wrote:Djiboutian,

I assume you resent the Issa and Gadabursi because they way they may have treated you in Djibouti but no Isaac is going to back injustice.

Personally I have no idea who dominates Lughaya but I know there are Issa there and that whole region is neglected by SL.

Most Issa left for Djibouti to find better services.

I never heard of SM in Lughaya but that doesn't mean they don't live there.

If you have facts share it and hopefully Issa not accepting you as a Djiboutian won't cloud your judgement.
Resent!! :o
Reer Somaliland waxay ku maahmaahan "Caruuri waa ciil laga waynaado". Waxay kale u ay ku maahmaahan "Rag waxa ugu liita ciil kama baxe iyo calooshiisa la ciyaare". Caruur iyo nin liitana ma ihi ee bal hadalka u fiirso.

Reer aan necebahay ma jiro. Xaq darada necebahay. Ninka dalinka col baanu nahay walaalkayna ha ahade. Ninka gar-darada necebna tol baanu nahay Xabashi Falashana ha ahade. Unlike you, I don't beg others to accept me. Respect is earned not given my Xabashi snetter. We are not minority like Tigray nor we are powerless like Oromo. Don't let the political representation foul you.

Dadka af Somaliga ku hadla dhaqan waxay u leeyihin in ay meel kasta iska sheegtan maca meesha u askari kale ah ka joogo taasina waa dhibta ugu weyn u geeska Afrika ka taagan. Wana wax yalaha aan kaga duwanahay dadka kale. Dhaqan uma lihin inaan dhul aan lahayn iska sheegano. Waxa dhacaysa in Hargeysa misa Burco aad maqashiid nin ba dhulki lagu haysta. Hasayeeshi waliga arki maysiid nin sheesheeye ah aya dhulki lagu haysta. Taasina waxay ku cadiinaysa in aan dadka laga tirada badan yahay xaq dhawrno.

Hadaan sheekada Lughaya kuso noqdo. Hadaad rayigayga ee waydeesiid anigu shaksiyaan waxaan aaminsan yahay inay ay dawlada leedahay dhulka u dhan marka laga reebo dadka wax cadeeya inay dhulka ay degan yihin iibsadiin. So since reer miyi have nothing to prove that they own the lands they live in then its government property. But if you asked me what European explorers said, then here are some of their accounts

C. J. Cruttenden, Indian Navy, Assistant Political Agent at Aden visited Somaliland in 1848:-
The Haber Awal, as I have before stated, occupied the
lowlands between Berbera and Zeyla, a fertile tract of country
with several low ranges of hills, and averaging perhaps
40 miles in depth, to 90 in length.

Six years later, in 1854, Sir Richard Burton visited Somaliland.
The Habr Awal occupy the coast from Zayla and Siyaro to the lands
bordering upon the Berteri tribe. They own the rule of a Gerad, who
exercises merely a nominal authority. The late chief’s name was “Bon,”
he died about four years ago, but his children have not yet received the
turban. The royal race is the Ayyal Abdillah, a powerful clan extending
from the Dabasanis Hills to near Jigjiga, skirting the Marar Prairie.
He also said:
During my short stay at Zayla six or seven murders were committed close to the
walls: the Abban brought news, a few hours before our departure, that two Eesas
had been slaughtered by the Habr Awal
At the same year, Lt William Stroyan drew a map of Somaliland ( Notice who lived in the maritime plain ).
https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/b/burton ... t_0044.jpg

Martin Theodor von Heuglin, the German explorer who journeyed through the African side of the Red Sea, and along the Somali coast, drew another map in 1857 in which you could find in the name of all the coastal cities in Somaliland and each sub sub clans that settled there.

The other two clans were inland tribes. Have you ever wondered why all seamen and those who traveled abroad even before the British colony hail from certain clans?!

I don't wanna go through what your beloved, Siad Barre, injustice committed which disturbed the peace between the clans that live in the western regions of Somaliland. But I bet anyone to name me one tiny coastal town inhabited by the clan that claim Awdal region? All I want is a name of a tiny tuulo. Please don't say Zayla or Lughaye. Both are cosmopolitan towns. It doesn't make sense claiming to own Lughaya and Zayla but not living anywhere between them.

You said you never heard of a certain sub clan living in Lughaya. Forget about Lughaya, I want you to ask around who were the guardians of Zayla town till few years back. Hint: It was a sub sub sub sub clan (RX).

P.S. Ujeedadi laga laha diiwaan-galinta waxa waaye inu qof kasta ku ciil-baxo codkiisa. Hala isdiiwaan-galiyo sii ay tuulo iyo magaalo kasta waxay xaq u lahayd u heesho :up:
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Long essay. Summarise it and tell me the main points.

Thnx
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AwRastaale wrote:Long essay. Summarise it and tell me the main points.

Thnx
https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/b/burton ... t_0044.jpg
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theyuusuf143 wrote:
I openly advocate that Ciise should come back to awdal, why would I cry when you know we isaaqs do the same . adigu basbaad baad ka hadlaysaaye waaraado ayaa lagu soo guraa reer hawdka. aad baan igu hanbalyeynaa in ciise fahmay dimuquraadiyada oo ay codkooda Ku ciil baxayaan. Sanadkii hore way u qaadan waayeen markii laga badiyey waayo samaroonku systemka dalkay aad uga yaqaaniin ciisaha.
Bal labada aad isbarbar dhigaysid eeg.

Dadka Hawd dega sow lama gayn meel ay jifadooda hoose degan yihin misa dad kala la dul kiinay? Dhamaan tuuloyiinka hawd ee gumaysiga haysto laga heli maayo qof aad isku da' tihin u ku dhashay.

Dadkan laga soo raray Jabuuti 5%na kumay dhalan Somaliland.

Hadi aad power sharing doonaysiid maad ka bilawdid Dhoqoshay.
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