The Rise of Wahabism in Somalia after 1990

[TheFuturist]

war slow down the futurist. you just going too for it. no one winding up or anything.

"Winding up", "pulling your leg" hadii aad maqashid it means joking. It doesnt mean anything bad sxb

[jalaaludin5]

Let me guess, the practise of hazing forumers was invented after I made my account?

Hyper was being uncharacteristically stern and winding you up.

But Jalaaludin/Gegiroor and a few others are known to defend Wahabbism. They intentionally conflate Wahabbism with Islam and try to shut down threads that disagree with their Wahabi views. So u gotta watch out for those two

Baseless accusation.

But understand. The hypocrisy I mean.
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[Hyperactive]

who said I was joking tho ? lol

ps; this guy is carbon copy of you, I though was you. his topics same as yours.lol

[shimbiraale]

who said I was joking tho ? lol

ps; this guy is carbon copy of you, I though was you. his topics same as yours.lol

Now that you know we're not the same person, can you stop deleting my posts?

[TheFuturist]

Let me guess, the practise of hazing forumers was invented after I made my account?

Hyper was being uncharacteristically stern and winding you up.

But Jalaaludin/Gegiroor and a few others are known to defend Wahabbism. They intentionally conflate Wahabbism with Islam and try to shut down threads that disagree with their Wahabi views. So u gotta watch out for those two

Baseless accusation.

But understand. The hypocrisy I mean.
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Two questions:

Do you think that you tend to inadvertently defend Wahabism, not because you support it, but because you think people are attacking Islam?

Do you think people should be able to disagree with and criticise Wahabism?

[Inaayah]

Why are people so obsessed with what people are wearing and what names they name their children?

Someone just posted a topic about a Somali mother (who was pregnant) that died of gaajo iyo haraad owgi.

Go obsess over that. That's real shit.

[TheFuturist]

who said I was joking tho ? lol

ps; this guy is carbon copy of you, I though was you. his topics same as yours.lol

We even have the same writing style, though I dont tend to talk about Wahabbism anymore because the topic has been debated to death and most people have deeply entrenched views about it. I also dont bother writing full sentences anymore. Maybe i'm posting from the future... Deja vu.

[jalaaludin5]

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[jalaaludin5]

The Futurist

the answer to your first question, is in there.

The second question is an insult and one should not dignify it with a response.
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[shimbiraale]

I had been hoping to help revive this forum but a mere thread or two about Somali culture and the hivemind jumps down your throat.

How can a forum expect to survive if people are discouraged from posting and contributing?

[shimbiraale]

We even have the same writing style, though I dont tend to talk about Wahabbism anymore because the topic has been debated to death and most people have deeply entrenched views about it.

Since the last time I read snet was a few years ago, I didn't know the landmine I was walking into.
No wonder the forum is on a decline.

[Hyperactive]

who said I was joking tho ? lol

ps; this guy is carbon copy of you, I though was you. his topics same as yours.lol

We even have the same writing style, though I dont tend to talk about Wahabbism anymore because the topic has been debated to death and most people have deeply entrenched views about it. I also dont bother writing full sentences anymore. Maybe i'm posting from the future... Deja vu.

I remember your early topics. you were not offensive or disrespectful. actually I enjoyed you few topics.

[TheFuturist]

who said I was joking tho ? lol

ps; this guy is carbon copy of you, I though was you. his topics same as yours.lol

We even have the same writing style, though I dont tend to talk about Wahabbism anymore because the topic has been debated to death and most people have deeply entrenched views about it. I also dont bother writing full sentences anymore. Maybe i'm posting from the future... Deja vu.

I remember your early topics. you were not offensive or disrespectful. actually I enjoyed you few topics.

I dont think the op has been offensive or disrespectful at all. If anything he's been politite and courteous. But when I first joined, I did say some things that I now regret. I've since apologised to people (in public) so we're all cool now.

But one of the most interesting debates we had when we joined was about this question: is a muslim woman's salah (prayer) accepted if she prays without a headscarf?

[Hyperactive]

I am not talking about op too./ but about you. I never remember, I forget a lot, have any problems here with others either. I don't knw why you stopped writing.

[zumaale]

As for emulating the dress of Gulf Arabs, it is just a bloody item of clothing. Which is more alien to the Somali, Western or Arab dress codes? Somalis traditionally shared more with the Arabs as a result of trade and religion than with Europeans but it is only due to the cultural and political dominance of the West that their dress code has subconsciously become the 'norm' in most of the world.

I for one do not wear a Khamis nor did I wear one when spent part of my childhood in the Middle East. Personally, I find it and the Macawis restrictive but to label it a foreign item of clothing whilst ignoring the other foreign dress codes we have imported is utter hypocrisy. To each his own me thinks.

Zuumale you're a sensible guy, the fuck outta here with this horseshit.

The Western dress code is found the world over, a by-product of shared history of colonialism and an extension of the West's softpower, waa wax aduunka aad laqabtid. I can understand that.

You can not argue for the Saudi khamiis. We do have ties with Arabs as a result of trade and religion but why the Saudi attire and not say, Egyptian? Moroccan? Algerian? Sudanese?

Would you not find it odd if Saudis started to dress up like Somalis around their mosques?

It is because of the perceived piety it supposedly emits whilst you wear it. Why do you think all of the Al Shabab militants in your regions just happen to also be from this puritanical Wahabi death cult?

Stop with the nonsense.

I never stated that Somalis do not associate the Khamis with piety, the premise of my argument was that there is no longer a distinct Somali dress code so why criticise only those that wear the Khamis? Why not rail against the Somalis political and intellectual 'elite' who have aped our colonisers and dress up in ill fitting suites to look sophisticated? Just because the rest of the world is doing it does not make it any more agreeable from a philosophical viewpoint.

Would it make a difference if pious Salafi Somalis wore Sudanese Khamis designs instead of Gulf Arab ones? Would that be more reasonable to you? Whether one likes it or not, the Prophet Mahamad SAWS was an Arab and the Khamis has a long history in the Middle East. If they think they are emulating how the Prophet SAWS dressed, rightly or wrongly, then I do not see why it should be anybody's concern how they dress as long they are not queuing up to blow up innocent civilians in a mistaken belief that they are going to heaven. It is folly to associate wearing a Khamis with terrorism; that is something one would expect from an ignorant Chav who identifies Islam with terrorism just because a few misguided Muslims commit heinous crimes. It is also weak to associate Salafism with terrorism as mainstream Salafi scholars have categorically stated that terrorist organisation are Neo-Khawarij so lay off the stereotyping.