Do you agree with Nimco Dareen?

[AwRastaale]

Nimco is a firm believer in the five separate Somali entities; Somalia, Djibouti, Somaliland, Somali Region, and Kenya's NFD.

She calls ONLF the enemy. Is it personal or politics? We know ONLF members before attacked her in Nairobi.



Discuss.

[smooth]

She doesn't really believe in this, she is just going with the mood of others and what's best for her pockets, any Somaliweyn stuff will hurt her pockets tremendously and rightly so, putting NFD and Ogadenia into this discussion is pointless as they are part of Ethiopia and Kenya

However I agree with the premise on S/land and throw in P/Land as well, but it's pointless as it will never be supported, the Xabashi's biggest nightmare is several independent Somali state's on it's doorstep, It's a far worse nightmarish scenario for them then a single unified Somalia.

It's suicide for any African state to support this and it will never happened, neither will the rest of the world whom have nothing to gain from 3 Somali states.

So the same tactic of playing different groups against each other as done in Ethiopia will be done in Somalia, different mini and micro states against each other, government will forever be irrelevant, it's already irrelevant in Somaliland and to some extend P/land

Soon Galmudug, Jubaland, Hiiraan will join the fold as they grow in power, the government doesn't have any troops in these states anyway and Hiiraan has already rejected the government, then the sleeping giant Benadir whom hasn't revolted because of the presidency will decide enough is enough with all these bombing and tax being waisted and form their own super state, that will be the end of any presidency.

The Arms embargo will continue so no qabiil state will ever be able to challenge the Xabashi Kikuyu hegemony, the currency is already meaningless but will go down further, so will the passport, few decades later full annexation, the Xabashi's a decade ago began giving thousands upon thousands of Somali students in these mini states free education were they learn the language.

They have been doing this for over a decade now. The stage and conditions are already set, the last hope is a changed Shariif/Hillary ticket, the only guy that can unite people particularly the Ahla sheikh crew whom are much more level headed then the Damjadiid short sighted morons, if HSM is re-elected, it's time to learn Af Xabashi.

[original dervish]

Too late to be a patriot......you should have thought about the consequences of wanton destruction years ago.
What you describe is already a fait accompli.......the game is over, Somalia as a unified entity is finished.

[AwRastaale]

Some good points there Dr Dahir Alasow.

I agree with many points you said and to be honest today it is clear. Somalis though past the murky era, somehow they are still handicap to take any effort or action in the right direction.

Wax yalo xasaasi ah ba jira oon halkan ka sheegen lakin I'm glad Konfuur is waking up rather than write 1000 blogs about Dahabshiil, 2000 letters to blockade food from kids in Hargeisa.

The Somali Region is not gone and there is still hope. Waxanu haysana a window of maximum 30 years. If we fail in that era, RIP.

OD,

uu kadi ninyo.

Somalinimo iyo Somalia wa kala laba. They don't have to be attached. They can run in series or in alternating like power grid.

Daqadu mid uun maha.

[original dervish]

No my friend.....without a unified country Somalia will forever be dominated by Kenya/Ethiopia.There is no half way house.
In thirty years there will be Ethiopians in space....while the Somali statelets will still be having pis sing contests.

[SahanGalbeed]

No , because Aw rastaale and smooth being both a prime example of the diaspora somalis also have the tendency to run their mouth in an irresponsible fashion which tend to contaminate and propagate the disease instead of solving the problem .
Count on somalis to try everything before they choose the obvious , a federation of the somalis. When kids can't do it for themselves there's usually somebody around to show them how to

Most somalis today have a myopic vison , an instantly gratifying outlook on their plight , they will "sober" up , I believe it as firm as I believe in God .. When in Rome , do as the romans do but when among the Somalis use your brain

[original dervish]

Somalia has gone beyond the point of no return at least a decade ago.
Unfortunately from here on in......mad max Somalia is as good as it's gonna get.

[SahanGalbeed]

We got your point the first time around ^

[Lancer]

She's a firm believer in money..she sings for any political event like all singers do.

[theyuusuf143]

What money are you talking about Somaliland government never invited her. She is just happy her DDSI which is very much against "Somali weyn" that's why people who believe in DDSI have nothing against Somaliland. In other words she is just saying lakum diinakum waliya diin. Respect !

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Her reer abti are landers

[jalaaludin5]

Like I said before....Unity doesn't necessarily have to be Somaliweyn. Just like in prayer where there are individuals all praying to the same thing yet each for his own salat somali can be 5 with common interest. One can argue That five separate state are more vulnerable than unified one. So are those in jamac prayers always vulnerable to the wispers of the Shaydan . lol

What do you do when you come to the mosque and just missed the prayer? You pray with who ever is there that also missed it. Sometimes you might even pray on your own

Somaliweyn today is a missed prayer. Somaliland came in. Realised they just missed it, so they had to perform their salat on their own . Then puntland came just in time to see Somaliland say...asalamu caleikum waraxmatulah, asalamu caleikum waraxmatulah.... arms raised doing duca, and got up to leave. So puntland also did their obligation and performed their salat....(each one waajibaadkoodi wey guteen and inshallah Allahna waa ka aqbalay).

Jalaaludin Bulaale. The wandering Sufi.
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[AwRastaale]

The two waqooyi diin analogy is hilarious



@ Lakum diinakum waliya diin - theyusuuf

Jalalaadin says aan sulka isa sarno lakin each Somali reads his own fataxa quietly in his own way.

Walee iyo bilee rag wax fahmay.

That's what's up.

[smooth]

Ina Baxar

You confusing fadhi ku dirir which was always a tradition we had to an actual disease, the former happens in every society, everyone that I have seen partake in fadhi ku dirir out of every 20 maybe 1 has the actual disease, the rest is all frustrations stemming from actual grievances they have whether we agree with it or not, why we are in such a shit hole, there is some truth to everyone's account.

This sort of discourse is healthy and needed, what's a disease is the people celebrating the suffering, bombing and rape of Somali's like Guban, Mohake and at times Hawdian in the past, but everyone else is letting out their grievances in a healthy way, I don't take any offence to it whatsoever because we all collectively played our parts in the destruction.

You need to make this important distinction, I have this sort of conversation with my close friends all the time and we are great finds and go for coffee/dinner after and laugh about it, we are all tribalistic people by nature no need to try to hide this and be hypocrites because doing that is what really fuels the resentment and makes it grow, you were a hardcore triablist yourself in the past

[smooth]

Hawdian

This is common knowledge, 30 years is way too optimistic, I expect annexation at that time period, why because the pro union secessionist that were alive during the glorious days and held posts ala Siilaanyo whom have some sympathy will no longer be here soon, before the next decade that generation will become extinct, 70% of the population now were born after the 90's

They have no recollection of the past and are taught nothing but hate for Koonfur, in 30 years these guy will be retirement age and a new generation even worse will be spawn, the most vitriol Anti Somalia are those born after the 90's, what do you think will become of their kids?

In Puntland there is already growing voice for secession even some coming out wanting to Join Ethiopia outright, in any annexation they will be first to go, in the past it was only HG against their presidency, they had many other allies but today due to the horrific politic's of Gaas and Faroole and sheer greed they have managed to literally PISS off everybody including their own Harti, whom prefer S/land over them

THEY WILL never have any hope of gaining presidency just like HG because of the legacy of those two man, successive Abgaal presidents literally bended over for them, one even going as far as naming a contested airport after their deceased leader, holding every conference in Garowe and signing Garowe 1 and 2, even going as far as being OK for putting the Capital up for vote, only to end up being viciously stabbed in the back by them. Nothing will please the old lady but for her to rule, a chance she squandered so her fate is pretty much sealed.

The only hope for any resurgence if it takes place rests on Koonfur, I don't see this happening in NFD, Somaliland, Puntland or Ogadenia, Somaliland had a great chance between 1995-2006 to take the bull by the horn, move the capital to Hargaisa but was short sighted busy with flimsy Ictiraaf that any smart person knew would never come, Koonfur waliba Hawiye went to them several times to meditate but shown the door.

If HSM whom I believe has done a lot of good as well as bad gets his Damjadiid crew heavily infiltrated and supported by the Ethiopian's re-elected, it's game-over, the people in Benadir will revolt, Hiiraan has already revolted, Puntland will cut whatever remaining ties it has and the government will fall apart shortly after, it will be back to feudalism, Micro state, Mini state, the point of absoluely no return unless a miracle comes from the skies, the people of Benadir are already on the VERGE of a great revolt.