Opportunities that we missed out...

[Maroodijex]

In my opinion, the iidoor have missed a lot of opportunities that have come pass us during the Somali civilwars.

The biggest reason why we missed these opportunities is this notion of building a country called Somaliland. This project not only pacified the clans by removing all armoury and fighting men... but also instilled a Religion which is called "Keeping Peace".

In early 1990s the Somali regime and the Ethiopian regime led by Afweyne and Mingiste were ousted from power. This event presented the biggest opportune moment for any long sighted visionary never before seen. It was the moment when those who have power and arms could have made a difference.

In 1990s, the SNM was the most organised and had access to the most arms. Already in place, the machinery to take the biggest advantage of the situation that was unfolding.

Instead of siezing that opportunity we instead like little b!tches disarmed our men and made peace with the neighboring clans.


what if we could have taken advantage of the situation?

Not only inside Somaliland could we had settled old scores. But also inside Ethiopia. Our borders could have expanded in any direction that we wanted. Instead we sat on our butts and choosed to eat Qaad and dream of "Recognition" and "Peace". Look where you are now.

[HooBariiska]

Sxb i wish i could rewind time. I would have done lotta things differently

[Siciid85]

Wa wax qornaa sxb. We learn and keep moving. Never dwel of what could have been. Al Qadru min Allah.

"You can't change the past, but you can ruin the present by worrying about the future"

Said by Some wise person

[theyuusuf143]

That was the only choice sxb, and I believe it was the right decision. We couldn't afford To sacrifice thousands of young isaaqs for the sake of taking power in Mogadishu. We gambled by declaring Somaliland unanimously and have nothing to loose. So far so good.

In Ethiopia we couldn't annex hawd because it was suicide game to claim the two territories at the same time, at least we challenged ONLF and opposed their desire to make goday or qabridahare the capital of the new formed Somali state. It would have been good opportunity if ONLF and SNM could work together, To challenge The weak new tigray. Unfortunately ONLF failed to form alliance with other Somali clans, The tigray take this opportunity To support Non Ogaden Party under the leadership of Abdimajid. if power and wealthy makes any sense Isaaqs where the dominant Somali clan in Ethiopia at that time politically and economically.

[BlueBlood]

at least we challenged ONLF and opposed their desire to make goday or qabridahare the capital of the new formed Somali state.

Godey was the capital of the somali state from 1992-1994...it was moved to jigjiga coz of security reasons when TPLF Rejected the referendum results (100% somali voted for independence) and ONLF started the independence movement since TPLF broke the agreement.


Ps ONLF were the leaders though they were not armed

[Rambie]

So what would you do diffrently?
Send SNM to take over the capital? Or side with USC Mahdi/Caydid faction?
Caydid sold us out and we had nothing to do with Mahdi. Why would we sacrifice more
of our people for Xamar, seriously dude fok that place, we already know where they end up.
If we wasted any chance it would've been in 1960. We also had a long shot in 1991-1995 but we blow it away with our infighting.

Anyhow, no point of crying about past, we need to focus on the present and how can we change the current idle statues quo.

[theyuusuf143]

at least we challenged ONLF and opposed their desire to make goday or qabridahare the capital of the new formed Somali state.

Godey was the capital of the somali state from 1992-1994...it was moved to jigjiga coz of security reasons when TPLF Rejected the referendum results (100% somali voted for independence) and ONLF started the independence movement since TPLF broke the agreement.


Ps ONLF were the leaders though they were not armed

Once ONLF made that attempt, the government supported abdimajid Hussein founded todays illey party (Ethiopian Somali People's Democratic Party) which was Originally non Ogaden at that time. the non Ogaden clans especially western ones (isaaq ciise jidwaaq and gadabursi) wanted jijgjiga or diridhaba as the capital, Ogaden where never oki with this. In fact the decision Ethiopia relocated Somali regional capital to jigjiga fueled the flames of the conflicts between Ogaden and the government.

[BlueBlood]

Yusuf bro Ogaden were not against moving the capital but we wanted xornimo..we lost thousands of men...MALEZ played the somalis very well..made them to antagonize each other.

Espd was a a merger between esdl (non ogaden clans) and ONLF splinter group

[Maroodijex]

Lets face it falks, taladii Isaaq niman aan talin jirin ayaa ka taliyay, marka nin aan talin jirin taliyo, nin talin jiray ayaa taga. Waa maahmaah Soomaliyeed.

We never learn from our previous mistakes. We are a people who base their decisions on impulse and not on strategy. We rushed into the 1960s union with our eyes blindfolded and wedded ourselves like a virgin. Gabadh aamuska ayaa lagu guursada. We got raped and we cried like little b!tches.

Instead of thinking big and stragetically, when the same opportunity arrived in 1991, again we based on our decision on impulse and haste.

Imagine if the tiny Tigre tribe of Northern Ethiopia decided to follow our decision and declare themselves an independent Tigre region and not even bother taking over Addis Abeba? They could have been in the same situation as we are today, still crying for recognition. Instead, the visionary Meles Zenawi played politics and his military like the chess master that he was. Today, the Tigre tribe is not only powerful but also their region better off and their people better off because of that bold decision.

I don't think the Tigre of 1991 was any better than the SNM of 1991. I used to live in Addis Abeba in those years and I have first hand when they captured the capital.

Anyways, my point is, we f*cked up. And it is about time we wake up and smell the coffee.

Had we played big time politics, we had chances to aim for the stars and even if we didn't make to the stars we could still make it to the moon.

I mean, even if we didn't succeed, we could have had bigger land than we have today.

For example, I would have asked all the iidoor Refugees in Ethiopia to not leave Ethiopia to begin with. Instead with a sizeable army to protect them, I would have moved them to Jigjiga, Degaxbuur and even as far as Godey and make a new reality on the Ground.

Equally, I would have played big with Mogadishu and sided with one of the big players there. Having 40,000 SNM men in Mogadishu sized with one of the players could have changed the dynamics of that conflict. No pain No gain as they say. Today, you could have been the King.

[Rambie]

Well Tigre were united & had a powerful outside alley the US, what's ours Mocamar Al Qadafi?
You seem to forget that just like Hawiya, Isaaq were (and still are) divided after taking out the SNA. Our low
intensive civil war lasted from 1991-1992 and resurfaced in 1994-1995. I think it's commendable achievement that we
eventually come up with census in these crucial settings without animus external intervention while H & D-blocks were
fighting full scale cross regional proxy war on the sub clan level.

Sending the whole of SNM to to Xamar ...and who would keep SL armed youth from killing each other or keep an eye on the front lines, elders?

[Sowda12]

The rebellious groups greatest opportunity was in 91. Siad Barre left the country for them, so they had a whole nation for themselves.
They could have made peace agreements, and ruled the country.

To be honest, I would rather have continued where Siad Barre left off, negotiated with the other groups, been the leader of Somalia, instead of creating a seccesionist poor state that will most likely never receive recognition.

Any rebellious group would have taken advantage of that situation, too bad they were not smart enough to do that.

[Rambie]

The rebellious groups greatest opportunity was in 91. Siad Barre left the country for them, so they had a whole nation for themselves.
They could have made peace agreements, and ruled the country.

To be honest, I would rather have continued where Siad Barre left off, negotiated with the other groups, been the leader of Somalia, instead of creating a seccesionist poor state that will most likely never receive recognition.

Any rebellious group would have taken advantage of that situation, too bad they were not smart enough to do that.

Warya Mr. I have more than 30 nick, kindly

[X.Playa]

Other then missing the chance once and for all bitchh slapping the Dhilos in SL, the rest can still be accomplished.

[Sowda12]

The rebellious groups greatest opportunity was in 91. Siad Barre left the country for them, so they had a whole nation for themselves.
They could have made peace agreements, and ruled the country.

To be honest, I would rather have continued where Siad Barre left off, negotiated with the other groups, been the leader of Somalia, instead of creating a seccesionist poor state that will most likely never receive recognition.

Any rebellious group would have taken advantage of that situation, too bad they were not smart enough to do that.

Warya Mr. I have more than 30 nick, kindly

Why not rule a country, that was still progressing like any other African nation, strongest militia in Africa, etc, instead of creating a little secessionist state up north who will never receive recognition? These people are pushing SL idea because they are afraid of being a minority in Somaliweyn, but they had the opportunity to rule a whole nation for themselves in 91.
Opportunities like that happens rarely, so if I were in their position, I guess I would have taken advantage of it

[Rambie]

The rebellious groups greatest opportunity was in 91. Siad Barre left the country for them, so they had a whole nation for themselves.
They could have made peace agreements, and ruled the country.

To be honest, I would rather have continued where Siad Barre left off, negotiated with the other groups, been the leader of Somalia, instead of creating a seccesionist poor state that will most likely never receive recognition.

Any rebellious group would have taken advantage of that situation, too bad they were not smart enough to do that.

Warya Mr. I have more than 30 nick, kindly

Why not rule a country, that was still progressing like any other African nation, strongest militia in Africa, etc, instead of creating a little secessionist state up north who will never receive recognition? These people are pushing SL idea because they are afraid of being a minority in Somaliweyn, but they had the opportunity to rule a whole nation for themselves in 91.
Opportunities like that happens rarely, so if I were in their position, I guess I would have taken advantage of it

Than why didn't SNF, SPM, SSDF or any Darood faction do that since you make it so rosy and smooth?