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CasualFarah wrote:
AwRastaale wrote:Nah man Arab is treated like Garhajis coz of the closeness while growing up but he is a man of his own. He is not son of Garhajis (Ismail). Garhajis had two sons; Daud (Eidagale) and Yonis (Hbr Yonis).

They are called Garhajis coz the rest of the fam used to come to him for disputes thus solving issues (gartu xegin jiray).
Daud's brother was Said not Yonis.

Daud Ismail(Eidagle) Said Ismail(HY). Arab and Garhajis(Ismail) were Twins.

The name Yonis comes from the mother of Ismail Arre and Muuse Arre, she was aabo Yonis Darod.
Sax :up:

I didn't know they twins. That explains their historical closeness ilen it was twin intuition.
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MRnutritionist wrote:Some Somali clans have two main grouping interns of clan tree why is that?

guess who are this i will answer the popular one that most people know.


Waxasame iyo Kuceli

Midigsame iyo Minlaawe

Sabdi iyo Foorculus

Cabdale iyo Cawareere = Sacad

Farax iyo Dashame

Wacdaan iyo Nabad waa
As I expected there are no Saruur HG Somalinet Members.

Wacdaan iyo Nabad waa = Saruur HG.

Above clans who split to two main groups have less inner conflicts when it comes to power shering, what ever it given to them they split by two where as Abgaa, MJ, Ceyr HG, Mareexaan, and so on, because of they don't split to two main groups many sub clans are given nothing and one or two takes every thing. This is why they complain inner in justice
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There is no Xawadle ?

Midigsame iyo Minlaawe = Xawadle
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Habar toljecle majority reer galbeed but many books confused it with habar jeclo.

The smaller the tribe the better they are that's how I see it.
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Foorculus = fiska
Sabdi = Kabayare
Sabdi iyo Foorculus = Murudsade.
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MRnutritionist wrote:
MRnutritionist wrote:Some Somali clans have two main grouping interns of clan tree why is that?

guess who are this i will answer the popular one that most people know.


Waxasame iyo Kuceli

Midigsame iyo Minlaawe

Sabdi iyo Foorculus

Cabdale iyo Cawareere = Sacad

Farax iyo Dashame

Wacdaan iyo Nabad waa
As I expected there are no Saruur HG Somalinet Members.

Wacdaan iyo Nabad waa = Saruur HG.

Above clans who split to two main groups have less inner conflicts when it comes to power shering, what ever it given to them they split by two where as Abgaa, MJ, Ceyr HG, Mareexaan, and so on, because of they don't split to two main groups many sub clans are given nothing and one or two takes every thing. This is why they complain inner in justice
Responding to your own post? There is one saruur snetter
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AwRastaale wrote:Nah man Arab is treated like Garhajis coz of the closeness while growing up but he is a man of his own. He is not son of Garhajis (Ismail). Garhajis had two sons; Daud (Eidagale) and Yonis (Hbr Yonis).

They are called Garhajis coz the rest of the fam used to come to him for disputes thus solving issues (gartu xegin jiray).
Correction: habar Yonis=siciid.
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GubanOgoJSL wrote:Habar toljecle majority reer galbeed but many books confused it with habar jeclo.

The smaller the tribe the better they are that's how I see it.
There is no such thing as habar toljeclo. Habar Habusheed is split into 4. Ahmed sheikh Isxaaq (toljeclo). Ibrahim sheikh Isxaaq (sanbuur), Mohamed sheikh Isxaaq (cibraan), and Muse Sheikh Isxaaq (Habar Jeclo). Ahmed sheikh Isxaaq was the oldest son of the great sheikh. Ahmed went with his tol (habar magaadle), that is were the name comes from tol-jeclo. Toljeclo were the first Sultaans of Isxaaq, they were also the largest family. Unfortunately they had internal conflict, hence why they became small, and lost the crown to Garxajis. Because toljeclo went with their tol, they reside in western Somaliland, hargeisa and the surrounding areas.

The other 3 brothers Sanbuur, Cibraan and Muse stayed with their mum. That is were the name comes from Habar Jeclo. Over the years Muse sheikh Isxaaq, the youngest son grow so much in numbers. They make up 90 - 95% of Habar Jeclo. Habar Jeclo live amongs each other Muse, Cibraan and Sunbuur. They cover vast land that stretches from Berbera to Xiis iyo maydh, Burco to Cerigaabo, sibidley to oog. And from Bali Haleelo deep inside Ethiopia (Hawd) to the gulf of Aden.
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Togdeer my bad I meant tol jeclo
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FarhanYare wrote:
MRnutritionist wrote:
MRnutritionist wrote:Some Somali clans have two main grouping interns of clan tree why is that?

guess who are this i will answer the popular one that most people know.


Waxasame iyo Kuceli

Midigsame iyo Minlaawe

Sabdi iyo Foorculus

Cabdale iyo Cawareere = Sacad

Farax iyo Dashame

Wacdaan iyo Nabad waa
As I expected there are no Saruur HG Somalinet Members.

Wacdaan iyo Nabad waa = Saruur HG.

Above clans who split to two main groups have less inner conflicts when it comes to power shering, what ever it given to them they split by two where as Abgaa, MJ, Ceyr HG, Mareexaan, and so on, because of they don't split to two main groups many sub clans are given nothing and one or two takes every thing. This is why they complain inner in justice
Responding to your own post? There is one saruur snetter
are you Saruur? My questions are open and since no one answered except Isaaq I have to answer my self
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Togdeer wrote:
GubanOgoJSL wrote:Habar toljecle majority reer galbeed but many books confused it with habar jeclo.

The smaller the tribe the better they are that's how I see it.
There is no such thing as habar toljeclo. Habar Habusheed is split into 4. Ahmed sheikh Isxaaq (toljeclo). Ibrahim sheikh Isxaaq (sanbuur), Mohamed sheikh Isxaaq (cibraan), and Muse Sheikh Isxaaq (Habar Jeclo). Ahmed sheikh Isxaaq was the oldest son of the great sheikh. Ahmed went with his tol (habar magaadle), that is were the name comes from tol-jeclo. Toljeclo were the first Sultaans of Isxaaq, they were also the largest family. Unfortunately they had internal conflict, hence why they became small, and lost the crown to Garxajis. Because toljeclo went with their tol, they reside in western Somaliland, hargeisa and the surrounding areas.

The other 3 brothers Sanbuur, Cibraan and Muse stayed with their mum. That is were the name comes from Habar Jeclo. Over the years Muse sheikh Isxaaq, the youngest son grow so much in numbers. They make up 90 - 95% of Habar Jeclo. Habar Jeclo live amongs each other Muse, Cibraan and Sunbuur. They cover vast land that stretches from Berbera to Xiis iyo maydh, Burco to Cerigaabo, sibidley to oog. And from Bali Haleelo deep inside Ethiopia (Hawd) to the gulf of Aden.

That makes sense. So Muse, Sanbuur and Cibraan stayed with their mother and Ahmed moved with Habar Magadle to the west.
It explains why Habar Habsheed live in Sool & Sanaag while Habar Magadle are more concentrated in Woqoyi Galbeed, Toghdheer and Hawd.


I just knew Muse splits into 2 other linage Muse Abokor, Maxamed Abokor, Samane abokor and Cumar Jibriil.
Do you know the size of Samane Abokor and Cumar Jibril? I know the later was involved in recent clashes in Caynabo.

And who is the larger Maxamed Abokor or Muse Abokor?
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Rambie wrote:
Togdeer wrote:
GubanOgoJSL wrote:Habar toljecle majority reer galbeed but many books confused it with habar jeclo.

The smaller the tribe the better they are that's how I see it.
There is no such thing as habar toljeclo. Habar Habusheed is split into 4. Ahmed sheikh Isxaaq (toljeclo). Ibrahim sheikh Isxaaq (sanbuur), Mohamed sheikh Isxaaq (cibraan), and Muse Sheikh Isxaaq (Habar Jeclo). Ahmed sheikh Isxaaq was the oldest son of the great sheikh. Ahmed went with his tol (habar magaadle), that is were the name comes from tol-jeclo. Toljeclo were the first Sultaans of Isxaaq, they were also the largest family. Unfortunately they had internal conflict, hence why they became small, and lost the crown to Garxajis. Because toljeclo went with their tol, they reside in western Somaliland, hargeisa and the surrounding areas.

The other 3 brothers Sanbuur, Cibraan and Muse stayed with their mum. That is were the name comes from Habar Jeclo. Over the years Muse sheikh Isxaaq, the youngest son grow so much in numbers. They make up 90 - 95% of Habar Jeclo. Habar Jeclo live amongs each other Muse, Cibraan and Sunbuur. They cover vast land that stretches from Berbera to Xiis iyo maydh, Burco to Cerigaabo, sibidley to oog. And from Bali Haleelo deep inside Ethiopia (Hawd) to the gulf of Aden.

That makes sense. So Muse, Sanbuur and Cibraan stayed with their mother and Ahmed moved with Habar Magadle to the west.
It explains why Habar Habsheed live in Sool & Sanaag while Habar Magadle are more concentrated in Woqoyi Galbeed, Toghdheer and Hawd.


I just knew Muse splits into 2 other linage Muse Abokor, Maxamed Abokor, Samane abokor and Cumar Jibriil.
Do you know the size of Samane Abokor and Cumar Jibril? I know the later was involved in recent clashes in Caynabo.

And who is the larger Maxamed Abokor or Muse Abokor?
Mohammed Abokor and Muse are roughly the same size, they make up at least 85% of Habar Jeclo, that includes cibraan and sanbuur. Muse Abokor and Cumar Jibril live together, while the rest of Habar Jeclo live together. Cumar Jibril and Samane or not very big, Muse Abokor sub land such as Biciide and reer Yoonis are bigger than both of them combined. Same for the Mohammed Abokor subclass such as Ahmed Farah, reer Dahir and Solo Modow. This is how the tree looks like.

1. Sheikh Isxaaq
2. Muse
3. Abokor
4. Jibril
5. Cumar (Cumar Jibriil)
5. Abokor
6. Muse (muse Abokor)
6. Mohammed (Mohamed Abokor)
7. Samane
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MujahidAishah wrote::wtf: hawdian I know your xabashi but :mindblown:

Why you exposing us waa bila awal iyo ayub isla xishoo inadeer. :meles:


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