She married Ajnabi but atleast a Young One

[Raganimo]

My Point is, Since we can't stop Gabdhaha from marrying whoever they want, atleast lets tell them, I would prefer you marry a Somali man but if you are dying for Ajnabi, marry the educated, muslim and Upscale one who can take care of you. Don't bring crack-head and expect me to support it.

When you go to Eid celebration, All the cadaan and black brothers who come to pray all have Somali Wives. You cannot find them with Indian or Carab or Pakistani girl. The Pakistanis have been in UK for 100 years and you hardly see a Pakistani girl marrying ajnabi. I went there and did not see one. All I see is Halimos marrying Ajnabi. Maybe we kind of more open society to others but discriminate against our own.

That seems to be a UK Salafi phenomenon bro. Plenty of brothers are marrying out as well.

[Amira143]

He is kinda fiiiiiine actually! He sure beats the average 7headed farah. Good for her. They seem to happy together.

[Raganimo]

He is kinda fiiiiiine actually! He sure beats the average 7headed farah. Good for her. They seem to happy together.

Don't make a comment like this and then whine when some of these brothers go in on xoolo such as yourself.

Fyi, the average xaliimo has a giant forehead too.

[Amira143]

He is kinda fiiiiiine actually! He sure beats the average 7headed farah. Good for her. They seem to happy together.

Don't make a comment like this and then whine when some of these brothers go in on xoolo such as yourself.

Fyi, the average xaliimo has a giant forehead too.

Whine and xoolo..? Did I touch a nerve? Stop getting your nickers in a twist, warya! Learn to digest others opinions and move the fuck along.

[AyeeyoH]

Maxay ku jeclaatey talow

[Raganimo]

He is kinda fiiiiiine actually! He sure beats the average 7headed farah. Good for her. They seem to happy together.

Don't make a comment like this and then whine when some of these brothers go in on xoolo such as yourself.

Fyi, the average xaliimo has a giant forehead too.

Whine and xoolo..? Did I touch a nerve? Stop getting your nickers in a twist, warya! Learn to digest others opinions and move the fuck along.

Some opinions are trash and should not be uttered in public. Have some xishood.

[Amira143]

Boo hoo! Cry me a river.

[Raganimo]

Boo hoo! Cry me a river.

[SteadyState]

According to people like Xplaya and others, Halimos have always been marrying any ajnabi they laid their eyes on since time immemorial. Shaykh Darod and Isaac anyone?

We have always been a multicultural people, so this is nothing new. Interracial relationships are the future and it is great seeing Somalis lead the way. The only thing in the end that should matter is deen and compatibility. A individual Somali man or woman doesn't owe their community shit and should marry any Muslim they find they are compatible with. Looking for a compatible spouse is already hard enough without adding the complication of ethnicity.

[SteadyState]

I think we tend to exaggerate the prevalence of this issue. Nobody in my immediate family has married ajnabi. As for my extended family, I got a couple of eedooyin, a bunch of uncles who went to Canada/America in the 80's and married cadaan women and that's about it. I probably got some cousins here and there that I'm not aware of. I suspect that this is the case for the vast majority of us.

I think that this is a classic example of confirmation bias. We're constantly scanning for cases that prove our assumptions.

That said, there is definitely a small, yet loud, minority who marries ajnabis.

You are either an anomaly or purposely downplaying this phenomenon to support your agenda. Practically every family I know has a number of people married to non Somalis. There is a reason why the salafi marriage bandit phenomenon mainly targets Somali women. There is a reason on other Muslim forums Somalis are praised for how open they are to marrying out while Arabs and South Asians are attacked for having traits of jahiliyyah. Not that I disagree as that is a good thing, but our outmarriage rates are definitely much, much, much higher than insular groups like Arabs, Pakistanis, and other Muslim ethnicities.

What I fail to understand is how young Somalis born and raised in the west can be so racist and hateful of these unions when according to our elders we are all a mixed bag of confused people that are the offspring of many different groups. Had it not been for the very same union that you people are frowning upon, we wouldn't even be here according to our culture and oral history.

[Raganimo]

I think we tend to exaggerate the prevalence of this issue. Nobody in my immediate family has married ajnabi. As for my extended family, I got a couple of eedooyin, a bunch of uncles who went to Canada/America in the 80's and married cadaan women and that's about it. I probably got some cousins here and there that I'm not aware of. I suspect that this is the case for the vast majority of us.

I think that this is a classic example of confirmation bias. We're constantly scanning for cases that prove our assumptions.

That said, there is definitely a small, yet loud, minority who marries ajnabis.

You are either an anomaly or purposely downplaying this phenomenon to support your agenda. Practically every family I know has a number of people married to non Somalis. There is a reason why the salafi marriage bandit phenomenon mainly targets Somali women. There is a reason on other Muslim forums Somalis are praised for how open they are to marrying out while Arabs and South Asians are attacked for having traits of jahiliyyah. Not that I disagree as that is a good thing, but our outmarriage rates are definitely much, much, much higher than insular groups like Arabs, Pakistanis, and other Muslim ethnicities.

What I fail to understand is how young Somalis born and raised in the west can be so racist and hateful of these unions when according to our elders we are all a mixed bag of confused people that are the offspring of many different groups. Had it not been for the very same union that you people are frowning upon, we wouldn't even be here according to our culture and oral history.

They're not as prevalent as you are making them out to be that's for sure. The UK Salafi community is not an accurate representation of the average Somali in the West. Almost every wedding I hear of is a Somali marrying another somali. Rarely do you hear of somebody marrying an ajnabi.

Also, choosing to stick with your own in order to preserve your culture is not "racism". This naive "as long as he is Muslim" mentality is the reason why so many young Salafi girls ended up getting used and abused by marriage bandits. You talked about compatibility being important yet cultural incompatibility is the primary reason why many mixed marriages end up failing. People who thirst for ajnabis do not understand the importance of cultural compatibility.

[SteadyState]

They're not as prevalent as you are making them out to be that's for sure. The UK Salafi community is not an accurate representation of the average Somali in the West. Almost every wedding I hear of is a Somali marrying another somali. Rarely do you hear of somebody marrying an ajnabi.

Also, choosing to stick with your own in order to preserve your culture is not "racism". This naive "as long as he is Muslim" mentality is the reason why so many young Salafi girls ended up getting used and abused by marriage bandits. You talked about compatibility being important yet cultural incompatibility is the primary reason why many mixed marriages end up failing. People who thirst for ajnabis do not understand the importance of cultural compatibility.

Possible. More realistically, it could somewhere in the middle between my "exaggerations" and your denial of it at all. Unfortunately we don't have any comprehensive data on this matter and it could be both our realities are simultaneously correct while being explained away by geographical variations and the local culture. Until we have some data on this all we can do is speculate.

As for your second contention, what race are you talking about? I myself am of a completely different stock racially than people like Xplaya and his kin who are in turn say a completely different stock from Shaykh Hyper and his kin. Somalia has always been a nation of immigrants and completely unrelated groups that were bound together by Islam and marry each other only on the basis that "as long as they are Muslim". Kind of ironic and hypocritical to be against marrying "ajanabi" and attacking the "as long as they are Muslim" reasoning when that was the only reason we ever intermarried and even then it was quite uncommon.

[Raganimo]

Ethnic Somalis are pretty much homogenous according to DNA studies. We are definitely not a "nation of immigrants". Unless you're Somali Bantu or one of them cadcads, you and Xplaya likely have the same origins.

[SteadyState]

Ethnic Somalis are pretty much homogenous according to DNA studies. We are definitely not a "nation of immigrants". Unless you're Somali Bantu or one of them cadcads, you and Xplaya likely have the same origins.

IMO, these DNA studies are not yet conclusive and rule out anything just yet. Sample size issues along with other basic methodology problems such as a breakdown by region, clan, etc. still make it pretty premature. There is no data of people of my clan on 25&Me or ancestry.com and I fundamentally believe I am of a completely stock than other Somalis and will continue to do so until a completely comprehensive study published in a reputable journal with appropriate citations emerges.


As far as I am concerned, I and that mentally deficient monkey share absolutely nothing in common and most certainly do not at all have any common origins.

[Raganimo]

What's your tribe? There's plenty of data of Somalis from all regions which strongly indicates that we're pretty much homogenous.

Even if you think the sample is too small, It's still more valid than the oral traditions that you're desperately clinging onto since there is exactly zero evidence to back any of those claims.