How do you think this seemingly new stance by Turkey will effect the Somaliland-Somalia talks? Have they realised that Somaliland is more of a viable partner than the clown government in Xamar?sahal80 wrote:Woow turkey govt has offered to somaliland that it will accept its passport as travel document if the former closed the Nile accademy
Do you know that gulen was invited by erdogan to somalia during his first visit in 2011 with other Turkish businessmen? They were on good terms back then...clashed by 2013
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2016/July/w ... 106890.htm
turkey to SL choose between gulen and erdogan!
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Re: turkey to SL choose between gulen and erdogan!
To stay relevant on these boards, he has to bad mouth Abgaal.Warsheekh wrote:Lol cabaaaad weynidaa. There is not a day that goes without u mentioning us. You aint shit sxb. Laangab xun oo ooynaya baa tahay. Nin rag iska dhig. Waxa tahay ninki yiri we will vote for xalweyste. Inan guumeed. Imstead of voting for a jeberti why dont u vote for a xawadle? .. oh shit i forgot they r irrelevant.sahal80 wrote:theyuusuf143 wrote:If erdogan government is offering good alternatives we won't hesitate to please the sultan , we can even execute them if he wishes . We are poor and we have no morals . Sorry gullen !atleast your kids will never hear anymore gafoow and culusow and anukalow
http://tooshnews.net/2016/07/turkey-acc ... -passport/
Re: turkey to SL choose between gulen and erdogan!
no it's not SL-turkey partnership these countries look at somali lands as a whole but they know that the SFG has no actual control over these lands so they have to deal with every region separatly or have influence in every region incase other countries dominate more in particular regionsTheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:How do you think this seemingly new stance by Turkey will effect the Somaliland-Somalia talks? Have they realised that Somaliland is more of a viable partner than the clown government in Xamar?sahal80 wrote:Woow turkey govt has offered to somaliland that it will accept its passport as travel document if the former closed the Nile accademy
Do you know that gulen was invited by erdogan to somalia during his first visit in 2011 with other Turkish businessmen? They were on good terms back then...clashed by 2013
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2016/July/w ... 106890.htm
We r part of the arab leageu from a red sea security perspective-Arab national securtiy- not as an Arab people...check out the Saudi role in kicking out the soviet from berbera also the gulf of eden as oil route and Arabs spend about $10bn a year bc of the somali chaos....costs 18bn Arabs pay 10 billion of it
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/12/busin ... orld-bank/
So they call for establishing somali coastal guard and helping somalia to protect its sea like djibouti
So having somali govt is the interests of Arabs that's why I'm pro-Arab and Muslim world not the Bantu and habasha who want to keep somalia under their influence or take its sea like kenya or dividing it between the bantu and habasha...the bantu are real enemy of somalis
Uganda sees somalia as a nilo-saharan country and as part of the tutsi empire who should eliminate the arabic/islamic interests from sudan and somalia!
Arabs r worry about Turkey's Islamic influence on somalia specially the UAE who r anti-ikhwan...but it's ok with Saudi Arabia now since king Salman, infact turkey will protect saudi Arabia and qater by having military bases in there bc Pakistan is no more protecting the gulf
http://www.skynewsarabia.com/web/articl ... 8%A8%D9%8A
As somaliland its good for you to have your own venues for the western funds like the new deal and education, it's some thing many support it like me and I can tell you that turkey was suggesting to mogadishu some kind of some kind of self governance for SL so i hope they can put this on the table officially with their new mediation
Mogadishu govt wanted to have good relations with SL and benefiting from these meetings in the eyes of the IC like they r making some progress nationally and SL was pressuring like opening what mogadishu calls "the final files" so jaanta la Islama helin! Add to this the new pm and his asssociates....
Re: turkey to SL choose between gulen and erdogan!
Sahal the next President and PM of konfuria must be brave and impose on reer konfuria folks the reality of SL being a separate country - for this would be a key moment to the start of Somalia 's rehabilitation
Re: turkey to SL choose between gulen and erdogan!
koonfur is not stable and the govt in mogadishu belongs to all somalis so every thing depends on the somali situation. for example the president can be ousted for treasonBigBreak wrote:Sahal the next President and PM of konfuria must be brave and impose on reer konfuria folks the reality of SL being a separate country - for this would be a key moment to the start of Somalia 's rehabilitation
The somali president cannot nominate a dir pm though based on 4.5 this can be done, IC is against this bc they know SL is not part of the federal and koonfur process
They will come to your file after koonfur issues were solved but they said meantime open a dialogue with SL
There is the issue of the disputed region created by gaas-mahiga wich is part of the SL issue
For this reason I believe you have a chance now to come up with some solution while koonfur still busy with itself
I can't say more.
Re: turkey to SL choose between gulen and erdogan!
ok I hear you bro - could you tell me if it is true godah barre is set to be the new Speaker of the lower house of the Federal parliament. I mean what are the chances that this speaker will a non rahanwein personsahal80 wrote:koonfur is not stable and the govt in mogadishu belongs to all somalis so every thing depends on the somali situation. for example the president can be ousted for treasonBigBreak wrote:Sahal the next President and PM of konfuria must be brave and impose on reer konfuria folks the reality of SL being a separate country - for this would be a key moment to the start of Somalia 's rehabilitation
The somali president cannot nominate a dir pm though based on 4.5 this can be done, IC is against this bc they know SL is not part of the federal and koonfur process
They will come to your file after koonfur issues were solved but they said meantime open a dialogue with SL
There is the issue of the disputed region created by gaas-mahiga wich is part of the SL issue
For this reason I believe you have a chance now to come up with some solution while koonfur still busy with itself
I can't say more.
Re: turkey to SL choose between gulen and erdogan!
No I don't think so. This seat is perserved for D&M and sharif hassan is not a presidential candidate this time he plans by 2020BigBreak wrote:ok I hear you bro - could you tell me if it is true godah barre is set to be the new Speaker of the lower house of the Federal parliament. I mean what are the chances that this speaker will a non rahanwein personsahal80 wrote:koonfur is not stable and the govt in mogadishu belongs to all somalis so every thing depends on the somali situation. for example the president can be ousted for treasonBigBreak wrote:Sahal the next President and PM of konfuria must be brave and impose on reer konfuria folks the reality of SL being a separate country - for this would be a key moment to the start of Somalia 's rehabilitation
The somali president cannot nominate a dir pm though based on 4.5 this can be done, IC is against this bc they know SL is not part of the federal and koonfur process
They will come to your file after koonfur issues were solved but they said meantime open a dialogue with SL
There is the issue of the disputed region created by gaas-mahiga wich is part of the SL issue
For this reason I believe you have a chance now to come up with some solution while koonfur still busy with itself
I can't say more.
Goodax is just politician who has influence inside the parliament (about 40 mps) but the IC has paralyzed the parliament bc of the timing as garguurte wants to waste more time on fake battles with the parliament so he can get an extension...you see IGAD is deeling with hiiraan to finish the task before September 10, hes dealing with the new parliaments file
So the opposition is working now as civil society like cancelling garguurtes election committee
Goodax is now busy on hiiraan file with our ugaas on how to pick our new mps with our intervention from garguurte, so far they changed our elders in the list and the ugaas is the only clan legitimacy but his friends were meeting in Nairobi in a wider opposition coalition on the national isssues. Funny garguurtes ex advisors like kamal gutale and cabdishakur cabdirahman was in this meeting. I f-king hate these losers!
http://www.kismaayo24.com/sawiro-daladd ... soo-baxay/
We will contribute to a change in ex villa somalia!
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atleast your kids will never hear anymore gafoow and culusow and anukalow