Ajuraan categorized as Beesha Shanaad

[Geeljire252]

4.5 will come to an end by 2020

Then the stand alone clans wil be represented by their regions and we will enter alliances in the parliament according to our interests!

So many Samaale clans yaakhi in the Somali peninsula. We should bring back the banner!

what clans are part of samaale?

Almost all Somali clans apart from darood.

[Geeljire252]

samaale is fake clan,hawiye isnt part of iri.

^ speak for yourself sheegato.

[Ugariyahan]

Hawiye waa Hiiraab, baadicade, karanle, xuskul hawiye, wadalaan iyo gugundhabe.

Hawadle, gaaljecel, degoodi iyo ajuuran hawiye maha.

This. For them to claim Hawiye waa xaraam. You cannot claim a lineage that is not yours in Islam.

sheegato is someone who claims another lienage, this may apply abit for sheekhal though not all of them claim to be hawiye, majority of them claim faqi cumar except the loobage of mudug-caagane-

But the rest have their own separate lienages

As hawadle, before our alliance with hawiye we have been in irir alliance with isaaq, for example sheekh ali jimaale was iririst not HAG

This article was wrote by current minister jangali see sheekh all jimaale and cigaal alliance
http://cilmiile.blogspot.co.uk/2007/08/ ... n.html?m=1

before the USC also we had alliance with cabdulqadir koosaar-SNM- in mustaxiil bc cimaan jeele was married to caasho koosaar so after his arrest with a group of isaaqs like cumar carte and ismail abukar who was married to drs maryan xaaji she related to jeele former goodoomiyaha haweenka between 1970-74 when they got sidelined by the regime...after the arrest of osman jeele we started shufta war know as jidka ama jeele so the regime has used the ogaadeen against us so the war has turned into darod vs hawiye and we partaked establishing the USC in italy

Col Abdulqadir kosaar was assassinated by unknown...some say a HG regime agent others say a separatist wing SNM who was against liberating xamar first was behind it

Koosaars military plan was to attack xamar from mustahil via bakool, this is the same plan caydiid executed it in cooperation with SPM bc we hawadle were against HG entering hiiraan for fear of like what happened to xamar. So we had two seperate fronts, alocal front who liberated buuloburde in Oct 1990 and the joint front with HG in mustaxiil

Hiiraan road was under blockade since the capture of buuliburde

There was hawiye front in galgaduud from cadaado to ceelbuur

By this time the joint USC have moved from mustahil moving all the way at hiiraan-bakool borders, west of jowhar and balcad up to dayniile/hawlwadaag

So it was a political cooperation or as they like to call it politically hawiye

This time is when the CIA map appeared putting us as hawiye. In this map the CIA makes darod less than hawiye and isaaq simply bc they lost the war
CIA 1991 mp
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x7xNgfhbbWo/S ... Punt44.jpg

Our cooperation with hawiye couldnt work politically just militarily so since 1994 we had only hiiraan agenda(USCpeace movement)

So we started partaking shirarka per region not per jabhad(caydiid solution of who controls more lands)

We r trying to reconcil with the clans that we have been at war with like ogaadeen/somali region, have good relations with mx and will never be part of a new hawiye wars!

Say for example if galmudug becomes at war with PL and somali region we will not care about it

This why HG attended our ugaas caleemo saar bc they know only hawadle can fight. We even liberated jowhar let alone xamar like halane and afisyoone, saldhiga galbeed madiina.

For hawiye it's pure awrku kacsi; dagaalada sukeeye, JL where only these clans r found so they love to claim us

This expensionist link even tries with mx!
http://karanle.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/k ... lassic&m=1

That article was written by ex snet member Cilmiile not Jangali unless you're saying they're the same person.

[Geeljire252]

Even though they are my neighbors where I've lived I have never seen a Sheikhal claiming to be Hawiye. I was surprised to find on snet people saying they're Hawiye.

Also the Degodi. They are stand alone.

To the best of my knowledge Hawiyaha waa uun Murusade Abgaal and HG Iyo waxa yaroo soo raaca those 3.

1) Sheekhaal are Hawiye
Try tell the ones in Jubboyinka or Mudug they are not Hawiye
https://youtu.be/W3xAvk072Bo


2) Degoodiye are Hawiye
Degodi, the ancestor of the Degodia is the grandson of Hawiye's 5th son Gungundabe
Galje’el is Degodi's younger brother

3) lol are duduble not Hawiye?

[RoobleAlWaliid]

If you look at the names of the children of Hiraab, he used to name his children after the effect presiding to when they were born. Madarkicis means the rain stopped when he was born, Martiile means some visitors came when he was born, Mudulood means he was born at a place which had many huts. Sheikhaal are martiile Hiraab. He is not even the last son. Maxamuud ( Duduble) is the last son.

General Liiqliqato

I call them political Hawiyes.

[Strategic]

samaale is fake clan,hawiye isnt part of iri.

^ speak for yourself sheegato.

you are the biggest sheegato,let us verify your lineage.

[Geeljire252]

samaale is fake clan,hawiye isnt part of iri.

^ speak for yourself sheegato.

you are the biggest sheegato,let us verify your lineage.

A Nuux Maxamuud calling anyone else a sheegato is funny Wallahi.
Did you not recently join Dhabayaco confederation in the 80's?

I'm nasab unlike you.

[sahal80]

This. For them to claim Hawiye waa xaraam. You cannot claim a lineage that is not yours in Islam.

sheegato is someone who claims another lienage, this may apply abit for sheekhal though not all of them claim to be hawiye, majority of them claim faqi cumar except the loobage of mudug-caagane-

But the rest have their own separate lienages

As hawadle, before our alliance with hawiye we have been in irir alliance with isaaq, for example sheekh ali jimaale was iririst not HAG

This article was wrote by current minister jangali see sheekh all jimaale and cigaal alliance
http://cilmiile.blogspot.co.uk/2007/08/ ... n.html?m=1

before the USC also we had alliance with cabdulqadir koosaar-SNM- in mustaxiil bc cimaan jeele was married to caasho koosaar so after his arrest with a group of isaaqs like cumar carte and ismail abukar who was married to drs maryan xaaji she related to jeele former goodoomiyaha haweenka between 1970-74 when they got sidelined by the regime...after the arrest of osman jeele we started shufta war know as jidka ama jeele so the regime has used the ogaadeen against us so the war has turned into darod vs hawiye and we partaked establishing the USC in italy

Col Abdulqadir kosaar was assassinated by unknown...some say a HG regime agent others say a separatist wing SNM who was against liberating xamar first was behind it

Koosaars military plan was to attack xamar from mustahil via bakool, this is the same plan caydiid executed it in cooperation with SPM bc we hawadle were against HG entering hiiraan for fear of like what happened to xamar. So we had two seperate fronts, alocal front who liberated buuloburde in Oct 1990 and the joint front with HG in mustaxiil

Hiiraan road was under blockade since the capture of buuliburde

There was hawiye front in galgaduud from cadaado to ceelbuur

By this time the joint USC have moved from mustahil moving all the way at hiiraan-bakool borders, west of jowhar and balcad up to dayniile/hawlwadaag

So it was a political cooperation or as they like to call it politically hawiye

This time is when the CIA map appeared putting us as hawiye. In this map the CIA makes darod less than hawiye and isaaq simply bc they lost the war
CIA 1991 mp
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x7xNgfhbbWo/S ... Punt44.jpg

Our cooperation with hawiye couldnt work politically just militarily so since 1994 we had only hiiraan agenda(USCpeace movement)

So we started partaking shirarka per region not per jabhad(caydiid solution of who controls more lands)

We r trying to reconcil with the clans that we have been at war with like ogaadeen/somali region, have good relations with mx and will never be part of a new hawiye wars!

Say for example if galmudug becomes at war with PL and somali region we will not care about it

This why HG attended our ugaas caleemo saar bc they know only hawadle can fight. We even liberated jowhar let alone xamar like halane and afisyoone, saldhiga galbeed madiina.

For hawiye it's pure awrku kacsi; dagaalada sukeeye, JL where only these clans r found so they love to claim us

This expensionist link even tries with mx!
http://karanle.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/k ... lassic&m=1

That article was written by ex snet member Cilmiile not Jangali unless you're saying they're the same person.

i have seen it when jangali published it long time ago, this guy just collect it. If I found the original link I will post it here.

[Masaasbaa]

sheekhaal are hawiye now? there is no end to their sheegato war xitaa Wikipedia wey ka qaleyn waayeen

[RoobleAlWaliid]

^ speak for yourself sheegato.

you are the biggest sheegato,let us verify your lineage.

A Nuux Maxamuud calling anyone else a sheegato is funny Wallahi.
Did you not recently join Dhabayaco confederation in the 80's?

I'm nasab unlike you.

Blood starting to sound like sheegato.


Somalia e Benadir viaggio 1889

Some sources spell it as Samali, Samale etc. and this one as Somali

[Strategic]

masaasba
sheekhal part born in somalia claim hawiye,which is correct others from SW claim stand alone.but in reality they have same treatment as abgaal,badicadde etc

rooble
we arent part of IRIR,isnt that simple.some of us claim irir and others dont see the association.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Blood I don't care, but it's written in 1889 in a Italian book. Just showing that to Geeljire.

[Masaasbaa]

masaasba
sheekhal part born in somalia claim hawiye,which is correct others from SW claim stand alone.but in reality they have same treatment as abgaal,badicadde etc

rooble
we arent part of IRIR,isnt that simple.some of us claim irir and others dont see the association.

blood why are they claiming Reeraw hassan? if sheekhaal says they're hawiye and claim reeraw hassans are a sub clan derived from them does that make reeraw hassan hawiye sheekhaal ma naxaan waaye qofey cafinayaan majirto.... hawiyaan nahay kulaha, reeeraw hassan sub clan of ours kulaha i cant make sense of this

[Geeljire252]

masaasba
sheekhal part born in somalia claim hawiye,which is correct others from SW claim stand alone.but in reality they have same treatment as abgaal,badicadde etc

rooble
we arent part of IRIR,isnt that simple.some of us claim irir and others dont see the association.

We?

There is no we.


You are jeberti gtfo
https://youtu.be/zP_10bDxaVo

Don't claim us filthy wecel

[Geeljire252]

Blood starting to sound like sheegato.


Somalia e Benadir viaggio 1889

It's a know fact this guy is Jeberti.
That's why he denies lineages.

Hawiye are Irir Samaale just like many other clans.