'Somali Peninsula' will be renamed as 'Oromo Peninusula' eventually

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Re: 'Somali Peninsula' will be renamed as 'Oromo Peninusula' eventually

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The only place where Oromos have legal rights to have permanent place to own is the the Somali kilil in Ethiopia. For that reason Oromos can be big problem In the kilil within couple of decades especially jigjiga. In Somaliland and puntland there are many Orono, fortunately most of them have no land or big businesses that can make them influential part of the society. They also have no citizenship rights plus they are very discriminated by the Somalis. So I don't believe Oromos have any chance to settle in Somaliland or Somaliland despite their presence .
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Bro wrote:They're muslim and Cushitic! So dhawaada :up:
A majority are Muslims but they have been corrupted with Habesh blood. Not true Cushites :down:
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mahoka wrote:Why is this forum allowing people to cite racial violence ?
They are not Somalis they are Ethiopian trolls trying to stoke hatred between the brotherly Somali and Orimo peoples.
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Somali peninsula is a term used by Somalis, everyone else calls it the horn of Africa. don't believe me type 'Somali peninsula' into google. no one wants the whole region associated with Somalis, we invented the technical fighting vehicle :dj:
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There should be a large community of Somali-Oromos in Somalia with rights to property and business. I would welcome them with open arms. The land of Somalis is extremely underpopulated and we need hard working people. So why not invite and create a healthy competition!
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As a Muslim Oromo, I can tell you, we have no desire to take any somali land.
we consider somalis as our offspring. rebellious offspring but our offspring none-theless.
remember, we aint the ones raping and killing somalis in somalia. the tigrayans are doing that and getting paid for it by the west.
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you sound overly paranoid. the oromo do not want or even need your land. we just want oromia and our basic right to rule it. the somalis are our offspring. oromo women gave birth to you guys.
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Waachis wrote:you sound overly paranoid. the oromo do not want or even need your land. we just want oromia and our basic right to rule it. the somalis are our offspring. oromo women gave birth to you guys.
They claim many northern Somali Cities such as Borama you know. Oromos are illegal aliens in the Somali Peninsula, go back where you came from.
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I support my Oromo Muslim brothers in securing their rights from the Habashi oppressors. But they should not claim parts of Eastern Ethiopia that belong to Somali people.

Brother Waachis, Somalis are cautious of Oromo people not out of hate, but because you guys simply outnumber us. It's a numbers game. There are only like 10-15 million of us while you guys are 40-50 million strong.
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Raganimo wrote:I support my Oromo Muslim brothers in securing their rights from the Habashi oppressors. But they should not claim parts of Eastern Ethiopia that belong to Somali people.

Brother Waachis, Somalis are cautious of Oromo people not out of hate, but because you guys simply outnumber us. It's a numbers game. There are only like 10-15 million of us while you guys are 40-50 million strong.
We are few in this world likes the Jews but what separates us from the Jews is that the Jewish people support each other. :tocry:
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LegendarySS4 wrote:
Raganimo wrote:I support my Oromo Muslim brothers in securing their rights from the Habashi oppressors. But they should not claim parts of Eastern Ethiopia that belong to Somali people.

Brother Waachis, Somalis are cautious of Oromo people not out of hate, but because you guys simply outnumber us. It's a numbers game. There are only like 10-15 million of us while you guys are 40-50 million strong.
We are few in this world likes the Jews but what separates us from the Jews is that the Jewish people support each other. :tocry:
Wallahi our biggest weakness is that we are so fragmented. :tocry:
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Raganimo wrote:
LegendarySS4 wrote:
Raganimo wrote:I support my Oromo Muslim brothers in securing their rights from the Habashi oppressors. But they should not claim parts of Eastern Ethiopia that belong to Somali people.

Brother Waachis, Somalis are cautious of Oromo people not out of hate, but because you guys simply outnumber us. It's a numbers game. There are only like 10-15 million of us while you guys are 40-50 million strong.
We are few in this world likes the Jews but what separates us from the Jews is that the Jewish people support each other. :tocry:
Wallahi our biggest weakness is that we are so fragmented. :tocry:
Other than 1960 Republic, our people have never once been united (Only two/5 were together during this union). There were various Somali Empires/Sultanates but there wasn't a Somali state such as The QIN that unified our lands (Qin dynasty was the first empire in cHINA THAT unified all of their respective lands).

Pre-Islamic Somalia, what existed were Somali city states such as Sarapion, Mosylon, Berbera, etc...

When will our lands and people ever be unified?
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LegendarySS4 wrote:
Raganimo wrote:
LegendarySS4 wrote:
We are few in this world likes the Jews but what separates us from the Jews is that the Jewish people support each other. :tocry:
Wallahi our biggest weakness is that we are so fragmented. :tocry:
Other than 1960 Republic, our people have never once been united (Only two/5 were together during this union). There were various Somali Empires/Sultanates but there wasn't a Somali state such as The QIN that unified our lands (Qin dynasty was the first empire in cHINA THAT unified all of their respective lands).

Pre-Islamic Somalia, what existed were Somali city states such as Sarapion, Mosylon, Berbera, etc...

When will our lands and people ever be unified?
True.

The old Somali regime passed on a golden opportunity to unite all Somalis in favour of qabiil favouritism. Sad.

Imagine what could've been if qabyaalad had been systematically erased from the consciousness of Somalis over a few decades. :lupe:
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Waachis wrote:As a Muslim Oromo, I can tell you, we have no desire to take any somali land.
we consider somalis as our offspring. rebellious offspring but our offspring none-theless.
This is perhaps the most unfounded thing ive ever heard. To make it clear, We didnt come from you nor did you make the Somali people.

Even looking at our genetic marker will tell you as such we dont come from Oromo. We have a much older genetic marker and alot more isolated genome then Oromo and Habesha population. Archeology and linguistic reconstruction also shatters this myth of Somalis having Oromo origins.

Introduction: Origins of Somali History
Origin:

Not withstanding some previously-presented hypotheses on origin of the Somalis, Somalia is a six millennia-old nation that has been occupying the Somali Peninsula throughout the time of its history. Even the last and most accepted one of these hypotheses which originates the Somali from Omo-Tana region cannot be valid anymore, and it is not logical even, because of various, ignored accounts.

These accounts clearly suggest that the ancestral home of the Somalis was the northern part of the Peninsula with the Peninsula always being inhabited by the Somalis.1 In one of the recent studies on Somali history in general and reassessments of Omo-Tana story in particular, an intimate authority has announced:2 “this hypothesis cannot be taken uncritically because cave paintings, dating back to 9,000 BCE, found in northern Somalia, as well as studies of ancient pyramids, ruined cities, and stone walls confirm that an ancient civilization thrived here at least from the late Paleolithic or Stone Age…along with the fact that the ancient Kingdom of Punt once flourished within Somali borders’…‘Somalia is a nation with a history that stretches back more than ten millennia to the beginnings of human civilization’.”2

I have come to a similar conclusion on the question over six years ago. Somalia is one of not so many countries around the world in which a population change has never been indicated, and any sign of a noticeable substratum has not so far been observed genetically, linguistically, and anthropologically. There is no evidence for south-emanated expansion toward the north, but there are evidences for the opposite. The largest lexical statistics, and other linguistic standards, from various Afroasiatic languages are used in a forthcoming comparison for reconstructing the Somali history.3
Infact its more likely that Oromos along with Afar and other Cushites are offsprings of Somalis.
Cushitics involved in the overlapping Middle and New Stone Age, and Pastoralist cultures. And the above-mentioned region of these cultures is historically Cushitic inhabited area,9 except the Putana-Omo belt which was a contact area of Nilotics, Omotics, and Cushitics. The view then tends to interconnect the expansion and food production developments in Africa, particularly pastoralism and some major crops.10 Taking these accounts together, the most probable predecessors of the Proto-Somali in their homeland were just their distant ancestors, the Proto-Eastern Cushitics. Thus, the northern Somalia is not the point of origin for the Somalis only, but also it may be the eastern flank of the Cushitic ancestral home in general. As a result, the Somali nation rose during the fourth millennium BCE from an autochthonous people and remained there while others moved out.
http://somali-studies.com/temp/?p=319
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Re: 'Somali Peninsula' will be renamed as 'Oromo Peninusula' eventually

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Raganimo wrote:
LegendarySS4 wrote:
Raganimo wrote:
Wallahi our biggest weakness is that we are so fragmented. :tocry:
Other than 1960 Republic, our people have never once been united (Only two/5 were together during this union). There were various Somali Empires/Sultanates but there wasn't a Somali state such as The QIN that unified our lands (Qin dynasty was the first empire in cHINA THAT unified all of their respective lands).

Pre-Islamic Somalia, what existed were Somali city states such as Sarapion, Mosylon, Berbera, etc...

When will our lands and people ever be unified?
True.

The old Somali regime passed on a golden opportunity to unite all Somalis in favour of qabiil favouritism. Sad.

Imagine what could've been if qabyaalad had been systematically erased from the consciousness of Somalis over a few decades. :lupe:
Post 77 Kacaan weren't the same as 69-77 Kacaan era.
Clan politics is a disease that we should all collectively fight against, just like how Haji Hussein did back in the 60's.
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